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Yea let's not do the whole "I don't like this one book by the creator so everything the creator has ever done is terrible". King's Sheriff of Babylon, Omega Men, Vision, and some issues of Batman have been top notch.
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Mr Hootington posted:His omega men isn't very good. I will fight you! (actually I won't fight you)
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Jan 4, 2019 19:26
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For me Omega Men was great as a self contained storyline taking place in a part of the DC universe that isn't really explored that much outside of Green Lantern book. The Kyle stuff for me was fine as I don't really recall anything being done with the character before and he was used more as a audience surrogate than anything else. I thought the characters were really well fleshed out with their backstories and the planets and the people described in the comics give everything a great "lived in" feel. The storyline itself I really enjoyed and yes I can see how it would come across as "misery porn" but I felt it was fairly realistic in the way that everyone thinks about the revolution but gives no thought about the opportunists and fallouts that happen afterwards. I was glad that things weren't just given a nice shiny bow on top and said "all was right with the planets now". It is also important to note how everything we are given is from the perspective of the Omega Men so we don't really know the full story of the planets except for their experiences, which leads to a lot of nuance in motivation.
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Jan 4, 2019 21:00
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Mr Hootington posted:The imperialist oppressors are bad, but so are the oppressed. I wouldn't say the oppressed were bad or good as there were different fractions fighting alongside for a common cause. I mean if you want to use the middle east as an example (which seems to be the direction this is heading) you can look at all the different fractions fighting around there and come up with something more than a black and white/this side is bad this side is good take from it. Some will be fighting for freedom, some will be fighting hoping to get some sweet land/power when the war is ended, some will be fighting for revenge. Each motivation of the Omega Men was different depending which world they came from and how the imperialists treated them, so to assume they would all be altruistic would seem kind of unrealistic. Anyway, I am happy to go on discussing this or whatnot but hopefully won't fall into some kind of DT "this is why my favourite comic is the best all listen to me" rant.
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Jan 4, 2019 23:19
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Teenage Fansub posted:Ad for Josh Williamson's Batman/Flash crossover Hi-C tie-in, with the shadow of Gotham Girl looming over 'em. Hmmm. A Heroes in Crisis tie-in. Guess I will be giving this a miss.
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Jan 15, 2019 01:32
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Teenage Fansub posted:I got totally mixed up reading Detective Comics and Batman Who Laughs this week. I never have a problem with getting multiple similtanious Batman narratives through all the books, but these both involving Alfred and Joker toxin stuff did the trick this time. Detective Comics and Batman (comic) seems pretty similar right now that I was having a hard time figuring out which plot points happened in which books (in regards to Leslie Thompkins). Also love that in both comics Batman just waltzes into Arkham and beats the poo poo out of inmate(s) whenever he wants.
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Jan 17, 2019 22:12
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Roth posted:Is it just me, or has Catwoman just been kinda boring? I liked the first few issues of Catwoman but the conclusion of the first arc was a jumbled mess. It was a shame because I thought it introduced some interesting ideas but didn't resolve anything even when it rushed to a conclusion.
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Jan 19, 2019 01:45
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I hope he writes a Firestorm comic because he seems better suited to writing b-characters and I want a Firestorm book.
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Jan 21, 2019 18:44
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usenet celeb 1992 posted:I only just now got around to reading The Vision. It's the only Tom King series I've read to date and it was really goddamned good. I'll probably check Mister Miracle next but probably not much else. Maybe he just needs to write more books with unconventional settings/setups to help break him out of his rut a bit. Highly recommend Sheriff of Babylon.
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Jan 21, 2019 19:01
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BrianWilly posted:I've been complaining about King since the very first book I've read from him so y'all can continue to sit right down with this whole ooh it's the new hip trendy thing to hate on King! distraction tactic that keeps popping up. The only difference between now and 2016 is that the more he writes, the more evident his problems become, the more people are reading these problems that weren't super glaring when he was simply writing niche titles about niche things. If someone is writing the most hyped event comic right now and and it loving sucks rear end, that person is going to get more negative press for some reason, how very strange. Just don't read it then.
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Jan 22, 2019 05:26
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Two Tone Shoes posted:Ignoring a problem doesn't fix it or make it go away. Well you can write a multi paragraph screed ending it with "I dare you to try challenge my holy cause!" if you want but it's probably not gonna change any minds. Some people like an author and some people don't. Don't buy books by authors you don't like. Don't try get into pissing matches online with people who like said authors either.
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Jan 22, 2019 07:15
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I agree that King has some tendencies that go too far in some cases. I agree that he works a lot better with b-list characters as it allows him a bit more freedom. I don't think he is terrible writer all the time (if you want a "fun" comic look at his Batman/Elmer Fudd comic, or his Superman/Lois Lane and Batman/Catwoman date night two-parter). Does he go to certain wells too often? Yes. I'm not reading HiC because for me the story line sounds quite stupid, and I already hate Identity Crisis and I am getting major Identity Crisis vibes from it. I don't mind writers using heroes to tackle serious issues, and the whole Superhero genre (for better or worse) is built around conflict and misery. If superhero comics were being honest than they would be allowed to have a happy life and still be a hero (I guess Superman mostly fills this) but for a lot of heroes and a lot of books, misery and antagonism is what drives the story line. Not just King's books, look at the history of characters like X-Men, Spiderman, Batman etc. Unfortunately most creators see the idea of happiness as an end point for characters and because these characters are part of a long going story they can never be happy. It's tiresome and can be annoying at times ( like the reason why Selina decides not to marry Bruce) but sadly that is the way the industry is run. BrianWilly posted:
Also I generally like your posts. I like the effort you put into your posts, and your earnest passion for all stuff Wonder Woman, but when you post a sentence like this you come across angry and looking for a fight.
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Jan 22, 2019 18:09
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Open Marriage Night posted:I think I’m done with Catwoman too. I’m down to Batman, Green Lantern, Shazam, and Young Justice. King, Morrison, Johns, and Bendis. Solid line up, I think. Now we just need to get them it write a 52 part 2 with that line-up. I guess I am down to Batman, Detective, Young Justice, Green Lantern, Justice League and.....well Suicide Squad is done, and I am on the fence about Catwoman.
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Jan 25, 2019 02:14
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There were enough He-Man comics to be collected into an omnibus?
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Jan 27, 2019 03:18
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I always wanted a Hawkman series that just explored history of the world using a Hawkman stand in. Him and his wife are supposed to be repeatedly reincarnated so why not have some Hawkman stuff that takes place in Victorian England, or 17th Century China, or ancient Rome etc?
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Feb 5, 2019 00:51
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I didn't pick up this weeks Batman because it is a crossover and tied in to HiC. I made the right choice, right?
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Feb 6, 2019 22:28
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I think I enjoy Doomsday Clock. It takes so long between issues that I can't really remember what my feelings are for the title.
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Feb 8, 2019 00:13
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It's actually an interesting reading to see the way doubt plays into Watchmen. Comedian, for all his nihilism and anger, sees the scope and Adrian's plan and for the first time his dark worldview is reflected directly on him and his self doubt comes out. Rorsrach, for his black and white world view, is shown something evil possibly leading to good and it breaks him into saying he can't go on living in the world if he has to accept this compromise like his only friend does. Nite Owl's post superhero career is all about self doubt. Adrian begins to doubt if his plan will work and if maybe he made a mistake. Also Sally isn't so much forgiving the rape as much as trying to justify it to give herself A reality she can live with. She was a confident young woman who Blake absolutely destroyed and she tried to build herself up again by making excuse after excuse. This isn't the story forgiving Blake but showing the tragic aftermath of his actions. Honestly no one comes away from Watchmen looking good, and if there is one or two characters you are suppose to sympathise with it's Nite Owl and Silk Spectre II who come out of the story less scarred (but still pretty hosed up) than everyone else.
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Feb 10, 2019 02:36
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Probably looked at the sales numbers that came out of the several titles spawning from Metal.
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Feb 21, 2019 21:24
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OscarDiggs posted:Comixology are having a DC Event sale. As someone who has only ever read Batman stuff, are there any good ones I should think about picking up? If Kingdom Come is on there definitely pick that up.
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Feb 27, 2019 20:02
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radlum posted:HiC was so bad. I mean, it has been bad before, but this one was just filler. Most of the one-off therapy sessions of minor characters haven't been bad and if they had been released in one-shot tie-ins, they could have worked, but as part of the main event, they just feel like filler to make the whole series longer. Also, now Gerads has been dragged into this mess too, his art looks worse than in Mister Miracle. I was with you on this post until the bolded part. Gerard's owned on Mr. Miracle.
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Feb 28, 2019 21:31
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Detective Comics #999 was really a let down after the previous issues. It is something that has been brought up over and over again with the character, and even though touching final page doesn't really redeem the issue at all. How many times do we have to be told "Bruce is obsessed and will constantly push himself"? It just feels like a warm over with not much adding to the character, and the plot not really making much sense either.
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Mar 1, 2019 00:21
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Look at this. LOOK AT THIS. Explain this to me. Why does this exist?  edit: Also this one has to be a trace of a X-Men cover right. Might as well shorten Beast Boy's name to Beast 
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Mar 1, 2019 02:03
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Teenage Fansub posted:That ain't too bad for Rob. Batman has no right leg
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Mar 1, 2019 02:09
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I respect how Liefeld toys with beauty conventions by having Superman have a smaller waistline than Wonder Woman. Also Supes concaving six pack.
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War of Jokes and Riddles did some interesting things (Bruce having Riddler and Joker over for dinner to try make a peace deal was an interesting concept for an issue) but it did that annoying thing I hate where modern writers take villains and make them homicidal maniacs with body counts in the hundreds. I didn't mind the idea of the gang war between Riddler and Joker but for me Riddler should be about stupid riddles and heists and trying to prove he is smarter than everyone, but now he is on a Joker level body count. Anyway, that's my gripe. The courting stuff post WoJaR is really good (date night being the peak) and it just makes issue #50 really bad because of how good the build up was. The stuff post #50 has been pretty solid but soooooo slow moving. We are currently in an arc where Bruce is experiencing nightmare after nightmare after nightmare without much pay off, and would honestly read better as a trade than single issue because it is the same thing down 6 times over.
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Mar 5, 2019 20:26
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I am not spoilering Firehawk being in those panels because I figure no-one but me has cared about Firehawk being in a comicbook since the early 2000s.
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Justice League continues to be the best and I can't believe it took DC so long to figure out that by combining Morrison's and the animated series together you get an awesome team.
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Mar 7, 2019 07:03
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Any chances one of those bats could be radioactive and be able to pass on some super Bat powers?
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Teenage Fansub posted:Saw in the indie thread: Firstly I don't think Lemire can only work on 1 book at a time, or 3, or 4. Secondly Black Hammer is awesome and I am curious how it will work with the the book basically being a homage to the Justice League meeting the actual Justice League.
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Spoiler for latest issue of Batman I guess. I don't know how I feel about this issue honestly. As a one and done issue it is actually quite excellent and the twist* at the end made me appreciate it even more, but as something that is supposed to be of a loosely connected bigger storyline it just felt unnecessary. I am losing patience with Knightmare, even though the issues involved range from good to great. If this was just treated as a one and done issue I would rate it quite highly just from a storytelling point of view but if it is supposed to be a piece of a bigger puzzle it is taking too long then to put that puzzle together. *As for the twist At first I was annoyed with the comic being a silent issue because I tend to get through those really quickly, but seeing at the end that it was basically the Roadrunner and Wile E. Coyote made me want to re-read it again. The action set pieces were straight out cartoonish and exciting, and having Elmer the only person to speak sealed the deal. It was an excellently plotted and planned out comic and really played on the cartoon aspect of the Roadrunner and Wile E. Coyote. Even the minimal sound effects (outside of the beep beep) were used to a great advantage and I would honestly put this comic in one of the best of the King run so far, if it was just a stand alone. Also the stuff with Joker's victim just seemed perfect for the Joker, and honestly was a better portrayal of his twisted madness than anything we have seen in years
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Teenage Fansub posted:Jeff Lemire just put out a newsletter revealing that he's working on a yet to be announced Black Label comic and that Inferior Five/Peacemaker is still happening. Yep. Lemire the person has been replaced with Lemire the comic book making machine. No need for food or sleep.
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Mar 27, 2019 00:19
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Half way through Detective #1000 and so far all the stories are pretty solid. I love the one and done stuff there isn't anything too crazy or world shattering which is how it should be. Even the Kevin Smith one is a nice little story.
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Mar 27, 2019 22:57
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I have no idea who Arkham Knight is (I gather he is from some video game and I don't play video games so...) but I thought the Detective issue was solid enough. Nice mystery and beautiful art.
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Apr 11, 2019 04:45
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Archyduchess posted:Is there any actual evidence that Tom King committed war-crimes (I mean aside from the general project of being part of the US military apparatus) because that seems like a pretty hefty thing to lob at somebody for writing a lovely comic. Well if you consider every one who fought or participated in a war a war criminal then yes, he will fit that description. Also lol at DC for returning a beloved character in a comic that was supposed to be about hope and love (Rebirth) and then doing this to that character. I like King but wouldn't touch HiC as it just seemed like warm over Identity Crisis (right down to the incomprehensible "mystery") and I am glad I am staying away from the title.
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Apr 24, 2019 16:45
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Doomsday Clock works a lot better as an Elseworld so gently caress that noise
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Apr 25, 2019 03:34
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DC put out a 25c comic today. Is it worth my money to pick it up?
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May 1, 2019 19:11
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Edge & Christian posted:It's actually at least five Batmen: This makes me wonder about works that are derivative of Batman throughout the comic publishing industry. You could probably fill an entire line of Batman like characters.
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Just read a bunch of comics so here are my thoughts because you need them badly. 25c comic. Not really worth the money. Was more of a 4 page per story primer and nothing there really interested me much. Which leads into.... Justice League As much as I am loving Snyder channeling his inner Morrison, this whole Perpetua/DOOOOOOOOOOOM thing is really really really really dragging out. I appreciate the scale and scope of it but it has been 20 something freaking issues (I think) of build up and some extremely convoluted mythologizing going on. Seriously, try explain this to a person who doesn't read comics and make it sound interesting. There is this woman and she gives birth to universes and she made three sons who represent....stuff. And one son makes worlds for her but if a world does....something....it goes away and he makes another one. And she was supposed to gently caress off and die or something but instead she decided to have the worlds have people who hate each other because she is really a jerk so her siblings locked her away but Lex Luthor set her free because he....I think wants something? Also Luthor shoves the word "DOOOOOOM" into every sentence which is very awkward. That being said, Darkseid's cameo was hilarious so that might have been worth it. Green Lantern I was a bit nervous on this one seeing the last time Morrison wrote a prose comic it had terrible poser art and it was so bloody pretentious that Morrison pretty much out-Morrisoned himself. Luckily GL didn't have terrible poser artwork so this was very pretty to look at at the very least. One thing this comic actually made me do is take note of the lettering. I wasn't a big fan. This makes me realise that I don't usually pay attention to lettering. So thank you GL comic for making actually notice the lettering. The story itself was fine and actually quite fun. I kind of liked that Hal's Jordan ring had built up some internal mythology that was straightforward enough. And again, beautiful artwork Young Justice Another comic I am really enjoying. I never really read the PAD YJ but have been catching up on it via trade/comixology and I am really enjoying the catch up. Bendis' is clearly a fan and it's nice to see him bringing back the PAD stuff even though it doesn't make much sense. It is also nice to see Bendis actually acknowledge the stuff and do some reveals (again even if it doesn't make much sense). I am hoping this all leads to Secret making a return too. Batman Well Knightmare is done and it had some high points and low points. The story that is building off that is starting and even though this is an issue where Bat is pissed off and beating up everyone, nothing really happens except Bane saying "dance puppet dance". I am really feeling like all King's stuff would be better read as a trade because the single issue stuff makes it seem like nothing is happening.
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Mr Hootington posted:They are doing a remake of underworld unleashed I was just going to post this. The 90's never die!!!
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