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Two Tone Shoes posted:Specifically only with Wally's magic zappy touch, which only worked on people who knew him as Kid Flash (it did not work on Linda). No one else has gained memories of stuff that happened in the last universe aside from weird, discordant references. Even Superman got all his poo poo merged back into the new 52 timeline. You can't explain how Bart exists in this universe right now besides "he just kind of survived Flashpoint." There's also the bits from Detective Comics where Future Tim did... he did Some poo poo (tm) that I don't recall the details of to show Spoiler and (ugh) Orphan their pre-new-52 timelines; could be some bleedover from that, I don't recall how much he showed Present Tim
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Open Marriage Night posted:Bart seems like he’s aware he’s in a comic doesn’t he? Dude came this close to talking about Alpha Flight, I think he's definitely going a bit fourth-wall-break-y
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Skwirl posted:What's the Alpha Flight reference in Young Justice?  I mean I guess it's possible that there's some DC Universe character or group whose name starts with Alpha and is in Canada but I can't think of one. His dialogue on the next page implies he's directly addressing the reader, also.
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Jan 13, 2019 13:04
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X-O posted:Don't go out of your way to buy that Tom King crap. Instead go out your way to buy this Jeff Loveness story. He needs to be writing so many more comics. More of this please and thank you
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Endless Mike posted:I hope he writes Wonder Woman next just to annoy you. I hope he does that AND writes Red Hood just to annoy D_T at the same time The wailing and gnashing of teeth, it would be glorious
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Jan 21, 2019 18:27
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BrianWilly posted:I've been complaining about King since the very first book I've read from him so y'all can continue to sit right down with this whole ooh it's the new hip trendy thing to hate on King! distraction tactic that keeps popping up. The only difference between now and 2016 is that the more he writes, the more evident his problems become, the more people are reading these problems that weren't super glaring when he was simply writing niche titles about niche things. If someone is writing the most hyped event comic right now and and it loving sucks rear end, that person is going to get more negative press for some reason, how very strange. ...just don't read it. It's not that hard. Like, I get that everyone has their tastes, and some people are gonna dislike books that other people like, and that's fine and cool and good, but it's not a matter for orthodoxy, it's not something where you should be trying to influence the groupthink. Some people like poo poo you don't, and vice versa, and that's okay. You don't need to spit out a wall of text daring someone to convince you you're wrong so you can DESTROY them with FACTS and LOGIC like a comic book Ben Shapiro. You can just not read the book.
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Two Tone Shoes posted:How do you tell a Batman fan, "Don't read Batman," ? "Hey, you don't like this run of Batman comics? Good news; there are different Batman comics you may like more being produced every month. Don't like either Detective Comics or Batman right now? Good news; there's a literally endless stream of miniseries coming out regularly. Plus the character's appearing in a bunch of team books. Read those instead. Don't like any of that stuff? Good news; back issues and TPBs still exist. Read those instead while you wait for them to start publishing new stuff you care about again." Don't read comics you don't enjoy. Definitely don't spend money on comics you don't enjoy. It's not that loving hard. If a person is such a 'Batman fan' that they're spending actual money on comics they hate just so they can bitch about them on the Internet, they should probably stop doing that. They could instead go and spend that money on something that will bring them joy, and recognize that 'liking a comic book character' is not a substitute for a personality. I mean, gently caress, man, I'm a Ted Kord Blue Beetle fan, but even back in the day I skipped comics he was in if they were bad. Because life's too short to subject myself to bad comics. Especially when I would have to spend actual money to read them.
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Two Tone Shoes posted:I like being told to wait when I've been waiting since 2009. You're right, the solution is I'm just not patient enough and also that I have no personality. Thanks for the reality check. You asked 'How do you tell a Batman fan, "Don't read Batman," ?' so I told you. If you decide to internalize that poo poo, that's on you, my man. More seriously, it is okay to recognize that if the industry is not giving you what you want, you can walk away from it. It does not need to be a defining pillar of your life. In fact if it is that's probably not all that healthy. You're sitting here saying "I'm a Wally West fan and Wally West has been poo poo on by DC and it's making me sad and has been making me sad for a decade now," and I'm saying "maybe you should accept that DC is apparently just not that into you and stop giving them your money, since they are apparently doing nothing to earn your loyalty." If you're refusing to do that - if you've been unhappy with the company's output since 2009, when it is currently 2019, but you're still buying their poo poo anyway? That's not being a fan, that's a pathology. EDIT: Teenage Fansub posted:Enough King, everyone. Now read Electric Warriors and Martian Manhunter tonight and post about how good Steve Orlando is a.t.m. This is good advice. Electric Warriors has been a really nice surprise.
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Two Tone Shoes posted:Could you crawl out of your own rear end for half a second? Good lord. The 2009 remark was merely a jab at your "just wait" comment. I'm not paying DC any money save a couple of the Sandman books (edit: I forgot I'm buying Young Justice, because I...like those characters) but I'll stop talking about Wally West I guess, lest my spiraling, terrible life impact your comics forum reading experiences anymore. The main thing I do is follow solicits and see what's up with things I have interest in (note, most of my comments in these threads are about solicits or, I dunno, Abnett's Aquaman for awhile which I liked). Oh that makes things much clearer, you're not spending money on DC comics but you feel the need to complain about them regardless because... I don't know why, really, I guess there must be a reason beyond "people should know what I think about the books I'm not buying" but I just don't see it, myself. It's kinda like how I enjoy baseball but don't feel the need to listen to people who haven't watched the sport since the designated hitter became a thing when they try telling me "baseball sucks now." Dude, if you're constructing an identity around being a fan of a character - and I know this is what you're doing because you said so ("My schtick is being the one Wally West person on this forum") - that's a really dumb thing to construct an identity around. I'm sorry to be the one to tell you that. I like a bunch of characters, personally - but I've rarely felt the need to say "I'm a Tony Stark guy, let me tell you about all the way Marvel is loving up this character." But hey, you keep on doing you, I guess. Again. And continually.
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Naomi was surprisingly good; I got a lot more interested in it than I expected. This is Bendis writing the kind of book he's built to write, it's a hell of a start.
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Barry Convex posted:I’m gonna pitch BOOM! a Snagglepuss-inspired series reenvisioning the cast of Garfield as gay AIDS activists at the height of the epidemic in mid-80s New York I... I would read this.
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Jan 25, 2019 02:36
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OscarDiggs posted:Maybe not fascist exactly, but "Yay Fascism" is catchier then "Yay Authoritarianism". It's been a while, but from what I remember all of the bad guys are huge Authoritarians and get away with it. The Comedian basically get's absolved for the vile things he did, Dr Manhattan get's to go away to the edge of universe to piss ball about with a new enslaved humanity to mess about with, and Ozymandias get's away with his plans, scot free, which is most of where my pro-fascist reading comes from. The only one opposed to all this get's melted by Manhattan and everyone else is to much of a melt to really care that much. It's been a long while, but I don't remember the Comedian ever getting absolved of anything. He was a vile monster, which is why his (possible) kid never grew up knowing him and he's alienated everyone in his life so deeply that once he learns there's a bigger monster out there the only one he can talk to about it is a dying retired supervillain. If he hadn't been such a shithead that everyone hated for all his murdering, he could have just called up Dr. Manhattan and been like "hey here's what I learned about Ozymandias' plan" and then half the book wouldn't have happened, but he couldn't, because he was scum. No one can stand him, arguably the only person he shows any genuine emotion towards is the first Silk Spectre who won't have anything to do with him 'cause he's a rapist and all, he's a broken human being. I mean, yeah, he goes out fighting the real bad guy, but that sure as poo poo ain't absolution.
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CharlestheHammer posted:Though you also have Rorschach’s ending which gets weird and muddles it a bit Not as much as you'd think. Rorschach is basically The Comedian Redux in a lot of ways. He's a guy who's been so embittered and emotionally cauterized by his war on crime that it's left him a shell of a man, and just like the Comedian, when he's confronted with the depths of horror that Ozymandias has unleashed, he blinks. There's a reason his ending isn't "gently caress you Doctor Manhattan people should know the truth and I'll fight you if you'll try to stop me;" it's him pulling his mask off, with tears running down his face, demanding death. Rorschach used to be the scariest motherfucker around. He never blinked in the face of whatever danger was put in front of him. They were all trapped in prison with him, after all. But he can't be that anymore. He's not the monster everyone should be scared of, not when Ozymandias pulls the poo poo he pulls. And he can't handle that, so he breaks. Honestly the only thing about him that's really redemptive, IMHO, is that he decides to care about finding the Comedian's killer when no one else would; he gives a poo poo, even about that rear end in a top hat. The only people that survive contact with Ozymandias' plot in anything resembling a healthy way are Silk Spectre II and Nite-Owl II - and that's because they found each other. All the Watchmen characters that drive the people around them away and can't find any healthy relationships end up dead (even Rorschach's shrink). It's the people that find each other that find ways to survive. I've always felt like that was a pretty underrated theme to the book.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Ozy had no intention of killing Rorschach. He even states it's fine to let him go, cause very few will believe him if he even makes it back to civilization from the ice fields. I've always believed - and I'm not sure how supported it is by the text, to be fair, but it rings true to me - that Jon kills Rorschach for one simple reason - Roeschach asked him to. Jon wasn't eliminating a threat or preserving a plan; he was honoring a request from someone who, once, was something akin to a colleague.
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Android Blues posted:I actually thought this was the first really good issue of HiC. No Identity Crisis-style superhero murder mystery, just superheroes in therapy. Loved the Gnarrk segments, and this is the first time Harley has seemed human rather than being a manic caricature. The page with Harley and Ivy talking as they hold hands was really good. Agreed, honestly. It was nice to take a break from the terrible mystery plot and drill down on the character-driven introspection bits, because frankly I think that's what King is better at; The Vision wasn't amazing because of its plot, after all. That by no means makes HiC a good book, but viewed separately from HiC as a whole - admittedly a tall order - this was a fun little issue IMHO.
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Madkal posted:Batman has no right leg Right, there's only one missing limb. Like he said, that's not too bad for Rob.
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Teenage Fansub posted:And a collection of Steve Ditko Question and Blue Beetle comics, but check out the branding. 
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X-O posted:I have really enjoyed the first four issues of Young Justice. As I figured Bendis is a much better fit on this than he is on Superman. That being said, while I really really want to let this go he's definitely going to have to explain how Tim suddenly remembers who Conner is. I mean he could have already just thrown in a small scene like with Barry and Wally in Rebirth and that would have been the end of it. But it's gonna bother the poo poo out of me if suddenly Tim remembers everything and there's no explanation for it. In the last arc of the recent Detective Comics run that I can't remember who wrote it, Evil Future Tim shows pre-New-52 timelines to Tim, Spoiler, and Cassie figuring that it will break them (it doesn't).
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Or, and I think this is the more likely explanation, Bendis has never really given a poo poo about making sure his stories respect continuity
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Schneider Heim posted:Who is The Grim Knight? And what about Midnighter? Did he get shunted off after Rebirth? The Grim Knight is one of the Dark Multiverse Batmen that is currently in the Batmini that Snyder is writing because who can't get enough Batman Who Laughs in their lives right Midnighter is in The Wild Storm, where it looks like all the Wildstorm characters were shunted back out of the DC universe after Rebirth
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Skwirl posted:What are the big animal characters? Krypto, Ace the Bat Hound, that horse Supergirl used to date, who else? Streaky the Super-Cat, Beppo the Super-Monkey, BAT-COW
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Teenage Fansub posted:edit: Pretty sure that roughly equates to "marketing wants us to do more crossover events so we had to get King out of the way so he could tell his story while still letting us do the marketing poo poo with the 'main' book"
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Doesn't have to be 'quickly' - my bet is some kind of Bat-centric event centered around #100 (which he no longer writes, y'see).
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Skwirl posted:That's missing a lot of Geof Johns writing Superman, like all of his Justice League stuff, and I haven't read it but I have to imagine Superman has shown up once or twice in the billion Green Lantern comics Johns has written. That's probably why the list started with the question "Just Superman focused?"
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Yvonmukluk posted:Ooh, she's in Outsiders now? Who's writing it and is it any good? It is... definitely a book that exists and is being published.
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Rhyno posted:Sounds like Ellis had another hard drive failure. Nah they're blaming this one on the artists, it looks like
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Rhyno posted:I was clearly joking my dude. Any time an Ellis book doesnt happen it's a HDD failure. the Internet has destroyed my ability to detect sarcasm every time I think "nah they don't actually mean that" it turns out they actually do
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Part of me wants to posit that Johns is making some kind of point about the nature of continuity itself, how all of DC's various reboots and relaunches ultimately end up blending together into one vaguely messy timeline because writers keep on going back to the same wells; no matter how many times Superman gets relaunched he still ends up with Lois Lane, still ends up working for Perry White at the Daily Planet, still ends up battling Lex Luthor. The JSA is still the supergroup of the 1940s even if everyone pretends they never existed for a little while; they always return. Every relaunch ends up coming back to the same comforting stories and themes (remember the New 52 starting up and saying 'no actually Lois is dating this other guy'? They had to bring in a whole different continuity patch job just to undo it!). No matter what fresh coats of paint you apply, the general shape of the DCU is unchanged. But the story has been so meandering and up its own rear end that I'm hesitant to give him that kind of credit.
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frameset posted:On the last page of Event Leviathan who are the two male detectives to the left of Zatanna? Elongated Man and... I dunno, but I think maybe John Constantine? Little bit of research seems to indicate that it is, yeah
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Xelkelvos posted:It was weird to think that Plas got invited to play detective with Batman and others, but it turns out Ralph was actually with the other team Yeah there was a Newsarama interview that confirmed for me that that's Constantine (and someone dressed as Deathstroke but not Slade Wilson, because of the poo poo going on in the Deathstroke book) where Bendis is like "Yeah people have been bugging me about Ralph for months now and I wanted to tell them 'guys, relax, we have this under control'"
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TwoPair posted:Wasn't SBP last seen in the "real" world? Maybe he read some of the comics shortly after the New 52 launch and just decided "ew, I don't wanna go back to a world like that, I'm done" "Go back? The hell with that, I might get written by Lobdell"
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X-O posted:I stopped reading Nightwing a while ago but this sounds nutty. What in the world are they doing? the whole "Ric Grayson" thing was set up by the Court of Owls
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Rhyno posted:The only writer I want to see write a Superman vs Doctor Manhattan story is Chip Zdarsky. It's funny to me how not long ago Chip was writing Howard the Duck and yet by this point I completely 100% agree with you
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TwoPair posted:I'm surprised the Terrifics is still going but it looking like the Island of Misfit Characters seems interesting. It's surprisingly fun in a kind of "let's check out the ragged edges of the continuity" kind of way
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My opinion on Dan Didio is that he got a lot of poo poo that he didn't deserve but also he probably sucks anyways because these days it seems like most people suck, so good riddance to him thank you for coming to my TED Talk
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limaCAT posted:Admins, please rename the forum "Superman Gay So What?" 
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BrianWilly posted:In vaguely non-related WW news, I hope everyone is as excited for Wonder Woman Historia: The Amazons to come out next month as I am, as I have it under good authority that this book is going to change my loving life I hadn't been paying much attention but then you posted that art and suddenly I am very interested 'cause wowza
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