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Do u love shield hero
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Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?




Classic

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Ardeem
Sep 16, 2010

There is no problem that cannot be solved through sufficient application of lasers and friendship.

Captain Invictus posted:

I read the first chapter of this a while ago and mangaupdates says it's only had 3 chapters, did they just kinda peter off after the initial silly gimmick or did nobody update MU?

Poking amazon.jp there are five volumes of this, so I'm going to guess the tiny group translating it died.

Relin
Oct 6, 2002

You have been a most worthy adversary, but in every game, there are winners and there are losers. And as you know, in this game, losers get robotizicized!

huh the author and artist are women

Julias
Jun 24, 2012




Relin posted:

huh the author and artist are women

The mangaka is a girl-
The original LN Author's gender is unknown, though they go by the pen name "Aneko Yusagi", but a bunch of idiots see the former and just assume the latter.

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?




I liked the idea that there were people from different versions of Japan/our world in this other world, is there anything actually good that takes that idea and runs with it?

ViggyNash
Oct 9, 2012


HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:

I liked the idea that there were people from different versions of Japan/our world in this other world, is there anything actually good that takes that idea and runs with it?

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!

I buy Steam inventories, add me if interested!




Clever Betty

Iirc slime reincarnation does that

ViggyNash
Oct 9, 2012


That's more from different time periods, unless there's later stuff that indicates otherwise.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012




this is now the mash kyrielight appreciation thread

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS


Namtab is the real shield hero for shielding the forum from... Shield Hero

Ardeem
Sep 16, 2010

There is no problem that cannot be solved through sufficient application of lasers and friendship.

Stairmaster posted:

this is now the mash kyrielight Coppelia appreciation thread
Does your post require healing?

LorneReams
Jun 27, 2003
I'm bizarre

College Slice

Shinjobi posted:

I miss log horizon.

I love series that have systems that are exploited/twisted in fun ways (I majored in Cryptology and game theory) yet all the ones that are interesting tend to be gross in various ways (no game no life, death march, etc.). I wish I could find more, but I get hooked on any that are front of me, such as Log Horizon and Overlord.

Kingtheninja
Jul 29, 2004

"You're the best looking guy here."


I thought log horizon explored the game system really well and I miss seeing that. Like when they figured out making food, or building costs. That part of the show really interested me.

Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?


Grimey Drawer

Kingtheninja posted:

I thought log horizon explored the game system really well and I miss seeing that. Like when they figured out making food, or building costs. That part of the show really interested me.

There are other mangas like that, but if you like them comes down to personal preference.

A Certain Middle-aged man's VRMMO activity log, Only Sense Online are two I know that does this both in a very similar way, but one is a gender bender and the other is just played straight for laughs.

Brought To You By
Oct 31, 2012


I sense a distinct lack of pile bunkers with these shields. Let's fix that shall we?

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012




Consider: what if shield, but scissors?

ViggyNash
Oct 9, 2012


LorneReams posted:

I love series that have systems that are exploited/twisted in fun ways (I majored in Cryptology and game theory) yet all the ones that are interesting tend to be gross in various ways (no game no life, death march, etc.). I wish I could find more, but I get hooked on any that are front of me, such as Log Horizon and Overlord.

I was one of the few people who made it through No Game No Life because I enjoyed the gamey aspects of the show enough to cringe my way through the rest of the show.

I can't defend the movie at all though. It begins with 10 minutes of unexplained grimdark before the little sis shows up to gently caress the big bro in very explicit terms. That's where I gave up.


Kingtheninja posted:

I thought log horizon explored the game system really well and I miss seeing that. Like when they figured out making food, or building costs. That part of the show really interested me.

Yeah I really liked how the players experimented with the gamey mechanics in Log Horizon. I wish the second season wasn't bad but there's always the LN.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!

I buy Steam inventories, add me if interested!




Clever Betty

Mordaedil posted:

A Certain Middle-aged man's VRMMO activity log
This one is pretty chill and has a few interesting concepts attached to it, plus the whole aspect of him grinding materials to craft specific custom gear accompanied by the methodical crafting of them is neat early on. The whole subplot of the vrmmo world being full of living, cognizant AI and so it's essentially a world in a bottle is an interesting one to explore. Makes me wonder if it'll, as the series winds down, deal with the ramifications of hitting the "off switch", essentially eradicating an entire population. Probably not, but at least as it goes, it's fun to see Earth deftly avoid the harem forming around him.

SubnormalityStairs
Jan 13, 2006

Excalibur? More like "Needle"



Grimey Drawer

Nice work by... whoever... to take a decent concept and turn it into "we're the dumbest people in an anime ever and by the way women are manipulative whores."

Fuckin gross.

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?




runupon cracker posted:

Nice work by... whoever... to take a decent concept and turn it into "we're the dumbest people in an anime ever and by the way women are manipulative whores."

Fuckin gross.

While we're here and asking for better things, can we have "people trying to be assertive to live up to a false image in another world" like 3/4 of the people in this, and the main character of How Not to Summon a Demon Lord, except without being this or that because both are bad

UnderFreddy
Oct 9, 2012

The biggest things in life have been achieved by people who, at the start, we would have judged crazy. And yet if they had not had these crazy ideas the world would have been more stupid

HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:

While we're here and asking for better things, can we have "people trying to be assertive to live up to a false image in another world" like 3/4 of the people in this, and the main character of How Not to Summon a Demon Lord, except without being this or that because both are bad

Isn't this somewhat also the plot of Overlord?

ViggyNash
Oct 9, 2012


UnderFreddy posted:

Isn't this somewhat also the plot of Overlord?

It's the core premise really. He had to pretend to be the Demon Lord that his persona was.

Lurking Haro
Oct 27, 2009



runupon cracker posted:

Nice work by... whoever... to take a decent concept and turn it into "we're the dumbest people in an anime ever and by the way women are manipulative whores."

Fuckin gross.

Don't judge it by how a single woman in it acts. Judge it by how they solve that plotline.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004





College Slice

Did Overlord ever really go anywhere with that? The plot I remember was that he was quite a timid man who just roleplayed an evil lich in his evil roleplaying megawhale guild, but when he got reincarnated/transferred he did actually end up having to live with those consequences, one of which being his now-actually-for-real genocidally-loyal underling NPCs and the fact that as a lich heightened emotions were squashed down. They played it for comedy a bunch but it felt like there could have been a gem of a plotline there as a regular human being tried to wrestle with succumbing to being an emotionless evil lich or fought to keep his human side intact.

ViggyNash
Oct 9, 2012


Pierson posted:

Did Overlord ever really go anywhere with that? The plot I remember was that he was quite a timid man who just roleplayed an evil lich in his evil roleplaying megawhale guild, but when he got reincarnated/transferred he did actually end up having to live with those consequences, one of which being his now-actually-for-real genocidally-loyal underling NPCs and the fact that as a lich heightened emotions were squashed down. They played it for comedy a bunch but it felt like there could have been a gem of a plotline there as a regular human being tried to wrestle with succumbing to being an emotionless evil lich or fought to keep his human side intact.

No. I gave up on the anime because of that.

I was hoping they would play up the mystery aspect of figuring out what happened and hopefully find another player, and who is this other high-level mage that turned one of my subordinates with a super powerful magic item. But no, it's just playing out demon lord fantasies, extremely thirsty female demon characters, and unnecessary politics.

Brought To You By
Oct 31, 2012


Lurking Haro posted:

Don't judge it by how a single woman in it acts. Judge it by how they solve that plotline.
That's what gets me about this outrage. If people think this is bad, it's only going to get worse because this first episode was actually well executed and inoffensive as far as first episodes go. Even the Melty's behavior is a plot point and coherent which is more than I can give last seasons dumpster fire of a first episode with Goblin Slayer.

We are just now starting the Naofumi edgelord phase and Raph was only teased. If the people getting upset at the false rape accusation are losing it over this first episode, I can't wait for uncomfortable implications love interests and drilling more holes because the rest are too loose if the anime even gets that far.

Ardeem
Sep 16, 2010

There is no problem that cannot be solved through sufficient application of lasers and friendship.

I didn't make it through the first episode because I've read the translated webnovel and every time Melty shows up I remember all the suffering she both causes and recieves. I kept reading because I have a friend who kept insisting that as dire as some things got, eventually would happen and it would be amazing. It was, actually, but not worth the misogyny that Naofumi radiates in normal conditions.

My personal take on Melty is that she's an ex-girlfriend of the author and you can tell every time he runs into her again IRL because the current plot drops and Melty shows up to do something terrible and comeuppance worthy. Which gets a little awkward and shoehorned after she's killed forever the first time. And just makes getting her parents approval to marry her loli sister all the worse.

There are some interesting ideas here, like getting sucked into a tower defense game, and every single one of the multiple teams of heroes being an absolute dumbass, kludging together game system exploits, and Naofumi slowly learning not to hate, but the whole thing would have been vastly improved by cutting everything having to do with Melty and her family out of the story entirely.

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?




UnderFreddy posted:

Isn't this somewhat also the plot of Overlord?

Thing that annoys me about Overlord, is he doesn't really have to try that much. It's more about the crazy former NPCs doing their thing than Ainz trying to Ainz.

Snow Job
May 24, 2006



Brought To You By posted:

drilling more holes because the rest are too loose if the anime even gets that far.

Did anything other than the old web comic actually... go there? With Malty's death? I can't see professional writers / artists being eager to recreate something so disgusting.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012




Ardeem posted:

I didn't make it through the first episode because I've read the translated webnovel and every time Melty shows up I remember all the suffering she both causes and recieves. I kept reading because I have a friend who kept insisting that as dire as some things got, eventually would happen and it would be amazing. It was, actually, but not worth the misogyny that Naofumi radiates in normal conditions.

My personal take on Melty is that she's an ex-girlfriend of the author and you can tell every time he runs into her again IRL because the current plot drops and Melty shows up to do something terrible and comeuppance worthy. Which gets a little awkward and shoehorned after she's killed forever the first time. And just makes getting her parents approval to marry her loli sister all the worse.

There are some interesting ideas here, like getting sucked into a tower defense game, and every single one of the multiple teams of heroes being an absolute dumbass, kludging together game system exploits, and Naofumi slowly learning not to hate, but the whole thing would have been vastly improved by cutting everything having to do with Melty and her family out of the story entirely.

Also, the slavery. The slavery is kind of an issue.

Brought To You By
Oct 31, 2012


Snow Job posted:

Did anything other than the old web comic actually... go there? With Malty's death? I can't see professional writers / artists being eager to recreate something so disgusting.

I have no idea, I never followed up and read the light novels but I would assume they gutted that piece of the plot in favor of a more tame execution.

PringleCreamEgg
Jul 2, 2004


Brought To You By posted:

I sense a distinct lack of pile bunkers with these shields. Let's fix that shall we?


Aegis of Uruk was pretty good then season two happened and it was so bad I couldn't watch season one again.

Ardeem
Sep 16, 2010

There is no problem that cannot be solved through sufficient application of lasers and friendship.

Darth Walrus posted:

Also, the slavery. The slavery is kind of an issue.

There is so much wrong I forgot to add that to the rant, and also I got Melty and Malty's names mixed up. And now my mistakes have been quoted and will remain forever more.

You really don't get partial credit for having some non-lolies in your slave harem, because you've still enslaved all your girlfriends and would-be boyfriend.

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD

Am I misremembering or hasn't the concept of "Four heroes summoned and each gets a special weapon, the protagonist gets a shield and is initially dumped on because shields suck" been done before? I remember seeing it on one of those dumb isekai roundup youtube vids. This was at least a year ago.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012




Kung Food posted:

Am I misremembering or hasn't the concept of "Four heroes summoned and each gets a special weapon, the protagonist gets a shield and is initially dumped on because shields suck" been done before? I remember seeing it on one of those dumb isekai roundup youtube vids. This was at least a year ago.

The Shield Hero LN series has been around for a while. Was that video only covering anime?

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD

Darth Walrus posted:

The Shield Hero LN series has been around for a while. Was that video only covering anime?

yeah

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000


Avast!

was this adapted from the notebook of a school shooter?

Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013


Zofia Today
Alm: Human Disaster


Lipstick Apathy

Well, it started life at the Shousetsuka ni Narou! (Let's become a novelist!) website around 7 years ago, at almost the same time as Re:Zero, KonoSuba, Slime, Log Horizon and... wait, Bakarina too?

Ardeem
Sep 16, 2010

There is no problem that cannot be solved through sufficient application of lasers and friendship.

Wark Say posted:

Well, it started life at the Shousetsuka ni Narou! (Let's become a novelist!) website around 7 years ago, at almost the same time as Re:Zero, KonoSuba, Slime, Log Horizon and... wait, Bakarina too?

Five out of six isn't bad.

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Pewdiepie
Oct 31, 2010
NAZI SCUM BUT NOW WITHOUT THE OFFENSIVE IMAGERY


Goblin slayer was epic so maybe this is good too.

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