Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
Do u love shield hero
Yeah I hate women
I think I may
I doubt it
It's poo poo from an rear end mate
View Results
 
  • Post
  • Reply
Kingtheninja
Jul 29, 2004

"You're the best looking guy here."


Grancrest war had a pretty cool shield hero, let's get more of that.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013


Zofia Today
Alm: Human Disaster


Lipstick Apathy

Kingtheninja posted:

Grancrest war had a pretty cool shield hero, let's get more of that.
While the anime from last year was far from perfect, let's be completely fair, though: If Isekai was a country with its own currency, either Yuji Horii (creator of Dragon Quest, scenario/scriptwriter for Chrono Trigger) or Ryo Mizuno (Author of Record of Grancrest War, Record of Lodoss War, Louie the Rune Soldier and a couple other cool things) would have their faces in the 1 dollar bill / 1000 yen note.

Kingtheninja
Jul 29, 2004

"You're the best looking guy here."


Oh sweet, I didn't know it was the same guy as lodoss. Used to watch the OVA all the time as a kid.

Joshlemagne
Mar 6, 2013


Kung Food posted:

Am I misremembering or hasn't the concept of "Four heroes summoned and each gets a special weapon, the protagonist gets a shield and is initially dumped on because shields suck" been done before? I remember seeing it on one of those dumb isekai roundup youtube vids. This was at least a year ago.

Didn't this happen in that dungeons and dragons cartoon from the 80's?

Varinn
May 3, 2005



Kung Food posted:

Am I misremembering or hasn't the concept of "Four heroes summoned and each gets a special weapon, the protagonist gets a shield and is initially dumped on because shields suck" been done before? I remember seeing it on one of those dumb isekai roundup youtube vids. This was at least a year ago.

There was an episode of Reboot where this happened im pretty sure

Ardeem
Sep 16, 2010

There is no problem that cannot be solved through sufficient application of lasers and friendship.

Varinn posted:

There was an episode of Reboot where this happened im pretty sure

There's a wiki for everything these days.

Blackchamber
Jan 25, 2005



Being the shield person can make you a valuable member of a team

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...



What kind of idiot would dunk on somebody using a shield. That's just asking to get stabbed by the first spearman you see because you don't have anything to protect yourself idiot.

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?




Dr Pepper posted:

What kind of idiot would dunk on somebody using a shield. That's just asking to get stabbed by the first spearman you see because you don't have anything to protect yourself idiot.

I think it's the idea of "shield as weapon" that is the dunkable offence. Although I find it hilarious that in the three dudes' alt-Japans, the loving tank role as a whole is scoffed at.

Cephas
May 11, 2009

Shape Shift With Me


name a single japanese video game where equipping a shield is a high level strategy

you can't

that's because japan didn't use shields

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?




Cephas posted:

that's because japan didn't use shields

that actually makes far too much sense

LITERALLY MY FETISH
Nov 11, 2010


Cephas posted:

name a single japanese video game where equipping a shield is a high level strategy

you can't

that's because japan didn't use shields

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXp8Th41rBs

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD

So did the game world analogues have spellcasters and only the physical damage classes have corresponding heroes? Cause it would seem pretty bad game design for there to be only four classes one of whom is completely useless.

Sharkopath
May 27, 2009



Cephas posted:

name a single japanese video game where equipping a shield is a high level strategy

you can't

that's because japan didn't use shields

Pavise shields were used all the way through the popularization of the firearm in the sengoku and japanese infantry used shields consistently where armor was lacking

Samurai stopped using shields the same reason they disappeared from medieval use elsewhere, the armor was better than a shield could ever be.

Sharkopath
May 27, 2009



Shields suck is the lesson you learn.

Sharkopath
May 27, 2009



Except teensy shields like bucklers, people kept using those because they were light enough to not be dead weight and had offensive purpose.

Sharkopath
May 27, 2009



the crushing disappointment of buying a big new expensive shield reinforced with bronze plate and a nomadic farmer smashing right through it with a sling bullet.

Sharkopath
May 27, 2009



if davincie comes in here to tell me sling bullets cant go through shields tell him ill demonstrate with him as the target

Terper
Jun 26, 2012




I can't wait for the Bakarina anime

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012




Kung Food posted:

So did the game world analogues have spellcasters and only the physical damage classes have corresponding heroes? Cause it would seem pretty bad game design for there to be only four classes one of whom is completely useless.

The Shield Hero is actually a very powerful support class that was deliberately sabotaged by the evil goddess who is TOTALLY NOT MY EX-GIRLFRIEND, MUM, and the only way for the protag to work around the damage and power it up now is to collect slave-girls like Pokemon.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!

I buy Steam inventories, add me if interested!




Clever Betty

Terper posted:

I can't wait for the Bakarina anime

Paracelsus
Apr 5, 2009

bless this post ~kya


Sanctum Shield 4 lyfe.

Pewdiepie
Oct 31, 2010
NAZI SCUM BUT NOW WITHOUT THE OFFENSIVE IMAGERY


Its interesting how cavalier this guy is about enslaving a little girl.

Bakanogami
Dec 31, 2004




Grimey Drawer

Ardeem posted:

Five out of six isn't bad.

Shousetsuka ni Narou generates a ton of content, of which pretty much anything that updates regularly and makes the ranking gets a print version. If you walk into a bookstore and look at a LN shelf these days a significant chunk of what you see started on Narou or one of its few competitors.

If you scour Narou you can find maybe a handful of series that are honestly pretty good- the aforementioned Re:Zero, Slime, Konosuba, Log Horizon, and Bakarina, for instance. I might add a few more like I'm a Spider So What, Sword Dad, Bookworm, Death Mage, Kenkyo Kenjitsu, and Make My Abilities Average that don't have an anime or so much hype around them yet, but that you can expect to see in the future. Stuff on this level is good enough that you can at least recommend it to someone without it being awkward.

Then you have the biggest group, the stuff that is generally enjoyable, but that has some sort of problematic...issue about them that make things uncomfortable. Last Season's Goblin Slayer, though it didn't start on Narou, is an example of this. So is Death March, Gate, or this summer's Arifureta. They might be fine most of the time, but have just a little bit of rape/slavery apologism/underaged love interests/uncomfortable nationalism/etc that ruins it.

Then you have the absolute garbage, where I'd be uncomfortable being in the same room as the author. Shield Hero goes here.

No idea why they thought this would be a good idea to adapt.

Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?


Grimey Drawer

Bakanogami posted:

Make My Abilities Average
I want to point out that this series is made by an author calling herself FUNA and everything she has written is loving top-notch and if you read anything the light novel of the above and the manga of "I need to secure 80,000 gold coins for easy retirement" and "Surviving in another world by potions" are A-class solid light reads.

The fact that they have practically no hype is kind of criminal, so I'd like to signal boost them.

Pewdiepie
Oct 31, 2010
NAZI SCUM BUT NOW WITHOUT THE OFFENSIVE IMAGERY


This comic is hosed up.

gwrtheyrn
Oct 21, 2010

AYYYE DEEEEE DUBBALYOO DA-NYAAAAAH!


Mordaedil posted:

"Surviving in another world by potions"

Lurking Haro
Oct 27, 2009



Bakanogami posted:

Shousetsuka ni Narou generates a ton of content, of which pretty much anything that updates regularly and makes the ranking gets a print version. If you walk into a bookstore and look at a LN shelf these days a significant chunk of what you see started on Narou or one of its few competitors.

If you scour Narou you can find maybe a handful of series that are honestly pretty good- the aforementioned Re:Zero, Slime, Konosuba, Log Horizon, and Bakarina, for instance. I might add a few more like I'm a Spider So What, Sword Dad, Bookworm, Death Mage, Kenkyo Kenjitsu, and Make My Abilities Average that don't have an anime or so much hype around them yet, but that you can expect to see in the future. Stuff on this level is good enough that you can at least recommend it to someone without it being awkward.

Then you have the biggest group, the stuff that is generally enjoyable, but that has some sort of problematic...issue about them that make things uncomfortable. Last Season's Goblin Slayer, though it didn't start on Narou, is an example of this. So is Death March, Gate, or this summer's Arifureta. They might be fine most of the time, but have just a little bit of rape/slavery apologism/underaged love interests/uncomfortable nationalism/etc that ruins it.

Then you have the absolute garbage, where I'd be uncomfortable being in the same room as the author. Shield Hero goes here.

No idea why they thought this would be a good idea to adapt.

Kumo desu ga is getting an anime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nqu4D8P_oLQ

Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?


Grimey Drawer


It's very good to see a girl go Cesar's legion on a bunch of unsuspecting knights.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!

I buy Steam inventories, add me if interested!




Clever Betty

aw man, I expect better from Mother's Basement, he's usually really good about recommending stuff and being pretty nuanced in his analysis of series similar to supereyepatchwolf, but he put shield hero on his list of series to keep an eye on, despite rightful trepidation due to the poo poo the series literally starts off with. I don't think he's a manga/LN/WN guy so it wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't know just how bad the series gets

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmIT8wSMvPI&hd=1

also apparently the series has really high production values which is a real bummer that so much effort is being wasted on such a trash series it sucks so much that they didn't go with the manga style for the girlspider anime, also that it's Bad CG

Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?


Grimey Drawer

I do agree with him that it'd be an interesting show if the Shield Hero became a dirty anti-hero but it kinda ditches that premise after a brief while.

And it isn't entirely trash until he gets his dumb revenge, which is the most pitiful thing I've ever seen on print, as if the author went was a bit of a drunk rapist.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!

I buy Steam inventories, add me if interested!




Clever Betty

even before that(I don't think it happened before I stopped giving the manga chances, which this series was one of the ones to break me of that bad habit), you had the child slave sidekick being aged up so that they could be romanced and she could be marketable, slavery is totally cool, the protagonist's harem being entirely children, I'm sure there's other poo poo I'm forgetting

I really hate this series, I do genuinely like the premise of four people being summoned to a world and going off and doing their own things to save the world, having their own stories, and the main dude just being a miserable antihero with his lovely power, and this one just loving squanders that potential constantly in utterly impotent ways

halleys comet
Feb 29, 2012


Cephas posted:

name a single japanese video game where equipping a shield is a high level strategy

you can't

that's because japan didn't use shields

Dark souls

Julias
Jun 24, 2012




Captain Invictus posted:

aw man, I expect better from Mother's Basement,

You really shouldn't-although I don't know all the details, he often times gets paid to advertise stuff from Crunchyroll, and considering how hard CR is trying to push the series, and his status as an influencer, I can almost guarantee you he was cut a check to shill it.

Alternatively he just has poo poo tastes

Julias fucked around with this message at 13:57 on Jan 16, 2019

thetoughestbean
Apr 27, 2013

Do not attempt to interact with the hogs.


Edit: this was dumb poorly thought out nonsense, so Im just going to delete it

thetoughestbean fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Jan 16, 2019

Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?


Grimey Drawer

That's, uh, certainly a take if you don't really watch his stuff, yeah.

LorneReams
Jun 27, 2003
I'm bizarre

College Slice

I never read manga, so I get scared when someone mentions something about an anime turning (or going) bad. I'm usually trying to find the next grimgar of fantasy and ash or alderamin on the sky, things I watched randomly and got absolutely hooked on. Goblin Slayer didn't seem too bad, but Death march had me cringing, but the cringe parts seemed so tacked on like they didn't further the plot or ideas of the show at all, and were easily skippable/forgettable.

Space Flower
Sep 10, 2014



i agree with the reviewer man

thetoughestbean
Apr 27, 2013

Do not attempt to interact with the hogs.


Edit: post was dumb, ignore this

thetoughestbean fucked around with this message at 15:18 on Jan 16, 2019

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Pewdiepie
Oct 31, 2010
NAZI SCUM BUT NOW WITHOUT THE OFFENSIVE IMAGERY


Captain Invictus posted:

even before that(I don't think it happened before I stopped giving the manga chances, which this series was one of the ones to break me of that bad habit), you had the child slave sidekick being aged up so that they could be romanced and she could be marketable, slavery is totally cool, the protagonist's harem being entirely children, I'm sure there's other poo poo I'm forgetting

I really hate this series, I do genuinely like the premise of four people being summoned to a world and going off and doing their own things to save the world, having their own stories, and the main dude just being a miserable antihero with his lovely power, and this one just loving squanders that potential constantly in utterly impotent ways

Shes aged up but still has the mind of a child. Im only on chapter 8 but sounds like it gets even worse.

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply