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Mel Mudkiper posted:criticizing the movie for being big and fan-servicey seems like something of an empty criticism seeing as its basically the MCU victory lap It also looks like poo poo.
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here's a spoiler for ya: this movie is going to be dogshit like all the other marvel films
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A human heart posted:here's a spoiler for ya: this movie is going to be dogshit like all the other marvel films Nah, it'll be fine (tm) you'll see it, you'll laugh a couple of times, you'll see things that should be spectacular but somehow aren't. You'll nod approvingly, you'll leave, and you'll never think about the film again.
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Avengers: Endgame - A Historic Moment In Moviemaking
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1stGear posted:Avengers: Endgame - A Historic Moment In Moviemaking Avengers: Endgame - The End of an Unprecedented Narrative Mosaic
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Apr 17, 2019 02:52
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The leaks show Endgame is going to be even better than we thought
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:It also looks like poo poo. Post your body and I will post mine ----------------
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every single twist in this movie is going to be super predictable and its gonna be a B- movie at best. these people are out of their loving minds
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Apr 17, 2019 16:41
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at this point I think "heh, marvel movies are bad" has become more insufferable than fawning Marvel praise
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The REAL Goobusters posted:every single twist in this movie is going to be super predictable and its gonna be a B- movie at best. these people are out of their loving minds "Thanos still demands your silence" But he's the bad guy, why wouldn't I defy him
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Mel Mudkiper posted:at this point I think "heh, marvel movies are bad" has become more insufferable than fawning Marvel praise
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Apr 17, 2019 20:48
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$2 billion is a drop in the bucket. I think there's enough hype behind the movie to dethrone Avatar as the top worldwide grosser. Its running time might prevent that though. Maybe.
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I wonder if that guy who devised whatever formula for Quality he thought of and made a spreadsheet of every comic book movie in order is still updating.
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Gorn Myson posted:"Marvel movies are bad" is something that you see in comment sections and YouTube occasionally. "Marvel movies are masterpieces" is ubiquitous. This movie is going to review extremely well, it'll probably hit $2b and then everyone will stay and watch the post-credits bit and get excited about the next phase. yeah i'll buy the equivalency when there are critics taking this franchise to task in equal measure as the paid-off drones who get starry eyed at premieres and drop generic praise the second the review embargo lifts
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RBA Starblade posted:I wonder if that guy who devised whatever formula for Quality he thought of and made a spreadsheet of every comic book movie in order is still updating. Check this out: he's been vindicated by history.
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teagone posted:$2 billion is a drop in the bucket. I think there's enough hype behind the movie to dethrone Avatar as the top worldwide grosser. Its running time might prevent that though. Maybe. Avatar was only about 20 minutes shorter than Endgame is slated to be. FWIW.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Check this out: he's been vindicated by history. I'm glad for him.
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RBA Starblade posted:I'm glad for him. I'm glad for him and terrified for us.
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A human heart posted:here's a spoiler for ya: this movie is going to be dogshit like all the other marvel films Marvel films are never bad films, and this won't be a bad film either. Instead, they are aggressively mediocre. If you looked up mediocrity in dictionary, there would be an Avengers logo in the middle of it.
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I don't know why people are worked up about spoilers when Dr. Strange already spoiled the whole dang thing!
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Mel Mudkiper posted:at this point I think "heh, marvel movies are bad" has become more insufferable than fawning Marvel praise That's because you hang out here instead of somewhere where they insist Winter Soldier is the best spy film of all time or whatever.
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Winter Soldier is really good. But yeah, it's no spy thriller. It's a comic book-rear end movie that has some spy stuff in it.
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teagone posted:Winter Soldier is really good. But yeah, it's no spy thriller. It's a comic book-rear end movie that has some spy stuff in it. That they completely abandon after the first half. I've also met people who insist that 'Live and Let Die' is, instead of a studio blatantly trying to cash in on Blaxploitation, actually a great, even the best, Blaxploitation film. That particular style of fandom isn't restricted to the MCU, it's just the current one.
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The elevator fight, and the car chase with Nick Fury were my favorite action sequences from that film.
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I said come in! posted:The elevator fight, and the car chase with Nick Fury were my favorite action sequences from that film. The elevator fight was something that was amazing in concept, but executed in a way that barely used its central conceit. He's stuck in a small space with a large number of opponents, and most of them are taken out, clearing the space and allowing a standard one on one with Frank Grillo, almost immediately. By contrast, here's part of the finale from 'Danny the Dog.' https://youtu.be/w33LC8DOJkk?t=91 (slightly NWS for a nipple at one point) I'm not expecting Chris Evans to be as good as Jet Li at fighting, but just note how the camera work and choreography both make full use of the cramped space.
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golden bubble posted:Marvel films are never bad films, and this won't be a bad film either. Instead, they are aggressively mediocre. If you looked up mediocrity in dictionary, there would be an Avengers logo in the middle of it. that's the worst kind of thing art can be, and hence is bad. you've somehow tricked yourself into thinking bad things are just ok.
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A human heart posted:that's the worst kind of thing art can be, and hence is bad. you've somehow tricked yourself into thinking bad things are just ok. That wasn't a defence of them, dude
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Snowman_McK posted:I'm not expecting Chris Evans to be as good as Jet Li at fighting, but just note how the camera work and choreography both make full use of the cramped space. If Paul Walker can become a fun and entertaining hand-to-hand fighter in the Fast & Furious movies then, dammit, Chris Evans can try!
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LesterGroans posted:If Paul Walker can become a fun and entertaining hand-to-hand fighter in the Fast & Furious movies then, dammit, Chris Evans can try! Oh, he did well. There's some b-roll footage that shows how hard him and Sebastian Stan worked (it was in the GIF thread) I'm just talking about the film making and choreography.
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A human heart posted:that's the worst kind of thing art can be Who said that entertainment had to be art?
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Snowman_McK posted:Oh, he did well. There's some b-roll footage that shows how hard him and Sebastian Stan worked (it was in the GIF thread) I'm just talking about the film making and choreography. Yeah, that same filmmaking and cinematography blanded up what should have been one of the most exciting sequences in the whole film, the all-out Cap vs. Winter Soldier brawl in the street. I guess technically it still is since everything else in WS got the same treatment, but it could've been blocked, shot and edited so much more effectively.
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Mulva posted:Who said that entertainment had to be art? yikes
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When someone says "this is art" on a gif of pure-strain schadenfreude, they mean it literally.
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Snowman_McK posted:The elevator fight was something that was amazing in concept, but executed in a way that barely used its central conceit. He's stuck in a small space with a large number of opponents, and most of them are taken out, clearing the space and allowing a standard one on one with Frank Grillo, almost immediately. Raising Arizona and Kill Bill vol 2 also do "1 on 1 fight in a cramped space" very good, although those are just trailers. It's not super hard to find inspiration tho.
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Of all things Pineapple Express probably has my favorite "cramped space" fight scene of all time
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Or basically anything by Jackie Chan, who always had his fights in interesting places and fully used them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h9XttVyxlM
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It's not in an enclosed space, but the 2v1 fight from Who Am I is easily my favorite Jackie Chan fight. I might be biased though, because Who Am I is also my favorite Jackie Chan movie.
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teagone posted:It's not in an enclosed space, but the 2v1 fight from Who Am I is easily my favorite Jackie Chan fight. I might be biased though, because Who Am I is also my favorite Jackie Chan movie. I think it's one of the best encapsulations of what made him good and unique: his attention to detail, his physicality, the very sweet worldview of his movies. And yeah, that fight is among his best work. It's probably the last or second last really great Jackie Chan fight scene.
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Snowman_McK posted:And yeah, that fight is among his best work. It's probably the last or second last really great Jackie Chan fight scene.  Super clean fight choreography and camera work that flawlessly dictates the tone. For anyone who hasn't seen the fight, watch it below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQYyXBJJfTM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8j2zqRkDIw Watch the whole movie though. It owns so much.
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