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What should the presidential powers be in 2020? This poll is closed. |
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| UNLIMITED!!!! URKKI 2.0!!!!!! |
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3 | 23.08% |
| Sauli should be allowed to telecast to our homes whenever he pleases, but that should be the limit. |
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2 | 15.38% |
| He should be limited to writing mildly worded letters to HBL and other provincial newspapers. |
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2 | 15.38% |
| None. More power to Sanna & Katri & Maria & Li & Anna-Maja & Jenni! |
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2 | 15.38% |
| Unlimited, but every decision must be subject to a plebiscite. |
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0 | 0% |
| None, but the president's life must be video streamed 24 /7 for the duration of their term, with no censorship. |
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4 | 30.77% |
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It's interesting to me that it's a universally known fact that employers do not want to hire long term unemployed people or old people, yet nobody in politics even discusses this issue or means to tackle it. You can't solve this by forcing these people to make more job applications because they are not the problem.
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Sep 17, 2020 17:54
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DarkCrawler posted:It is definitely great going back into studying and having 65% of your monthly income going into rent. Now I konda wish instead of switching careers I had taken an offered job monitoring Finnish-language social media in Berlin because what the Christ. This podunk town has no business being this expensive to live in. Berlin's a great city, by the way. At least to visit, no idea what it's like to actually live there long-term.
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Sep 17, 2020 17:55
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Elukka posted:It's interesting to me that it's a universally known fact that employers do not want to hire long term unemployed people or old people, yet nobody in politics even discusses this issue or means to tackle it. You can't solve this by forcing these people to make more job applications because they are not the problem. You forgot to add disabled people and minorities to that list.
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Sep 17, 2020 17:55
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Elukka posted:It's interesting to me that it's a universally known fact that employers do not want to hire long term unemployed people or old people, yet nobody in politics even discusses this issue or means to tackle it. You can't solve this by forcing these people to make more job applications because they are not the problem. We wouldn't want to make Juhana cry into his torkkupeitto, now would we?
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Sep 17, 2020 18:01
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endlessmonotony posted:You forgot to add disabled people and minorities to that list.
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Sep 17, 2020 19:58
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Elukka posted:It's interesting to me that it's a universally known fact that employers do not want to hire long term unemployed people or old people, yet nobody in politics even discusses this issue or means to tackle it. You can't solve this by forcing these people to make more job applications because they are not the problem. yeah it loving sucks lol
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Sep 17, 2020 20:29
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They should pump money into palkkatuki and education opportunities(actual useful education, not bullshit cv consultant courses), and ruthlessly crush the various forms of unpaid work that are abused all over the place.
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Sep 17, 2020 20:43
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One of the weird things if I understood the whole thing correctly: Schools get paid by the amount of people graduating "on time". This is virtually nearly impossible to do if you're studying part time by doing night classes however, so most schools don't offer complete programs for night time / multi form studies. Seems like if someone is tired of working kaupan kassalla you would want to give them the opportunity to study while working. I couldn't do the full-time student thing myself due to failed business leading to debt so I had to work while going through it insinööri koulutus. When we got in we got told it was the last time night classes were being offered for the programme as the school just couldn't afford to keep doing it. It's a shame, it was a pretty chill way to study, I'd recommend it even for full time students tbh. Much more self-paced stuff as well.
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Sep 18, 2020 16:07
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Literally never studied without working at the same time. Definitely would have graduated earlier without that.
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Sep 18, 2020 17:24
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DarkCrawler posted:Literally never studied
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Sep 18, 2020 17:26
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DarkCrawler posted:Literally never studied without working at the same time. Definitely would have graduated earlier without that. Same, plus wouldn't have have had a mini-burnout, wouldn't have become temporarily over-weight and wouldn't have hosed up my relationship. On second thought, I would have still hosed up my relationship, but in a different way and not so soon.
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Sep 18, 2020 17:53
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Getting an education or more education while working is definitely being cordoned off to people who are already well-off and can afford open university or to take a sabbatical year or two from work, and for those few employers who actually want to get further education for their employees (this is usually as a perk in smaller companies). If you are working the till at a supermarket you are not the government's problem because you are not sullying the Holy Työllisyysluku.Elukka posted:It's interesting to me that it's a universally known fact that employers do not want to hire long term unemployed people or old people, yet nobody in politics even discusses this issue or means to tackle it. You can't solve this by forcing these people to make more job applications because they are not the problem. Well there was that proposal a few months ago by, I believe it was SAK, to adopt the Swedish model of requiring employers to sack people in reverse age order (because younger people are more likely to land on their feet and find a new job) when downsizing, and it was roundly shot down. Outside of that, you don't really have a lot of means available to tell employers what to do except some kind of financial incentive boondoggle like having the taxpayers pay a certain share of the salaries of people over the age of 5x, or doing a socialism which we are told is bad.
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Sep 21, 2020 07:49
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From what I've understood, the main reason why employers don't hire people over 50 is that they're stuck holding the bag if that person has to retire early due to health reasons. https://www.helsinginuutiset.fi/paakirjoitus-mielipide/2417167 Otso Kivekäs posted:Työkyvyttömyyseläkkeelle jää 20 000 ihmistä joka vuosi. Miltei joka kolmas eläkkeelle jäävä aloittaa eläkkeensä työkyvyttömyyseläkkeellä, joka kestää yleensä vuosia. Tämän eläkkeen kustantaa vakuutustensa kautta eläkkeelle jäävän viimeinen työnantaja. Laskukaava on monimutkainen, mutta lopputuloksena työkyvyttömyyseläkkeelle jäävä maksaa työnantajalle kymmeniä tai satoja tuhansia euroja. The idea of the law was to prevent employers from ordering you to stick your fingers in a running paper mill, but it turns out laws that assume you work 45 years for the same employer don't work that well these days.
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Sep 21, 2020 10:01
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That is probably a part of it, but I'm pretty confident that there's also a huge chunk of plain old discrimination.
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Sep 21, 2020 10:02
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Sulphagnist posted:Well there was that proposal a few months ago by, I believe it was SAK, to adopt the Swedish model of requiring employers to sack people in reverse age order (because younger people are more likely to land on their feet and find a new job) when downsizing, and it was roundly shot down. Sure, let's make sure the employees with higher salaries, paid off houses, and no kids keep their jobs while the young precariat get fired.
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Sep 21, 2020 11:52
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Literally loving everyone: Do not go anywhere with lots of people while your matriculation exams are underway. You won't be allowed to continue and all of your exams for this fall will be nullified if you get exposed. Stay home, and just hold on for a couple of weeks. Abis: Go to a loving ski resort to have a massive booze-filled party in an overstuffed rented cabin and get exposed to Covid-infected person while the exams are underway. gently caress this poo poo, I don't get paid nearly enough. Warden fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Sep 23, 2020 |
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Sep 23, 2020 17:57
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Warden posted:Literally loving everyone: Do not go anywhere with lots of people while your matriculation exams are underway. You won't be allowed to continue and all of your exams for this fall will be nullified if you get exposed. Stay home, and just hold on for a couple of weeks. https://twitter.com/NikkiKorppi/status/1308697155197120512 People are getting bored of the restrictions, which is fine for the virus. People yearn to the old normal, but we'll probably have to wait until next year for it. And the second wave is even hitting up remote areas. In summary, 2020 sucks.
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Sep 23, 2020 19:42
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No. 1 Callie Fan posted:People are getting bored of the restrictions, which is fine for the virus. People yearn to the old normal, but we'll probably have to wait until next year for it. And the second wave is even hitting up remote areas. Not gonna happen. 2021 is gonna be shittier if anything. 2022 is still "?", but it's not looking good.
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Sep 23, 2020 19:55
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i cant wait to poop
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Sep 23, 2020 20:50
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https://twitter.com/Dimmu141/status/1309562388484624384
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Sep 26, 2020 10:59
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On se hyvä, että Ligur ja Nurge ovat löytäneet tekemistä sen jälkeen kun saivat bannit.
Warden fucked around with this message at 13:19 on Sep 26, 2020 |
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Sep 26, 2020 13:15
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Sep 27, 2020 10:58
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The amount of whining from oikeistolaiset setämiehet joka kerta kun Marin sanoo jotain on uskomatonta. Ihmeellisiä ruikuttajia. Twitter on siitä hyvä, ja huono, että siellä näkee miten typeriä erilaiset johtajat ja poliitikot ovat. Ei juuri paranna uskoa ihmisiin noin yleensä, mutta sentään tekevät kaljaa, jotain hyvää niissäkin.
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Sep 27, 2020 13:53
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no ek nyt on mieltä
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Sep 27, 2020 14:11
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Verojen alentaminen ja kaikesta leikkaaminen nyt on aivan ilmiselvää tolkun politiikkaa ilman mitään ideologista pohjaa ja sitten on tuollaista ideologisesti värittynyttä vasemmistohöpinää.
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Sep 27, 2020 16:47
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No. 1 Callie Fan posted:https://twitter.com/NikkiKorppi/status/1308697155197120512 naurattaa kyllä miten shit_that_didnt_happen.jpg
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Sep 27, 2020 16:55
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Tämä selittääkin ne ganjaruukut mitkä löysin hiljattain metsästä  
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Sep 27, 2020 17:28
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Matkailu- ja ravintolapalveluiden MaRan mukaan nyt pitäisi saada Lappi auki kaikille ulkomaalaisille, ei mitään karanteeneja tai testauspakkoa ja kaikkien suomalaisten pitäisi olla joka ilta yökerhoissa, tai muuten taivas putoaa niskaan. No ymmärtäähän se että siellä on kusi sukassa, mutta seuraavatkohan ne Lapin rekikoirayrittäjät yms. yhtään uutisia kun ajattelevat että rajoituksia pitäisi ryhtyä avaamaan juuri kun toinen tautiaalto on alkamassa?
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Sep 27, 2020 17:32
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Nenonen posted:Matkailu- ja ravintolapalveluiden MaRan mukaan nyt pitäisi saada Lappi auki kaikille ulkomaalaisille, ei mitään karanteeneja tai testauspakkoa ja kaikkien suomalaisten pitäisi olla joka ilta yökerhoissa, tai muuten taivas putoaa niskaan. No ymmärtäähän se että siellä on kusi sukassa, mutta seuraavatkohan ne Lapin rekikoirayrittäjät yms. yhtään uutisia kun ajattelevat että rajoituksia pitäisi ryhtyä avaamaan juuri kun toinen tautiaalto on alkamassa? Suomalaisella yrittäjällä on pyhä rikkomaton oikeus tehdä rahaa liikeideallaan eikä sitä ole soveliasta minkään julkisen, yksityisen tai yliluonnollisen toimijan rajoittaman.
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Sep 27, 2020 17:43
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Hesari posted:Pelote on kuitenkin melko olematon. Laakkonen mainitsee esimerkkinä kaksi oikeustapausta. Toisessa tapauksessa marjayrittäjä oli ensin esittänyt Laakkoselle työaikakirjanpidon. Sen perusteella Laakkonen laski, että heillä oli saatavia noin 10000 euroa tuntipalkkaa ja 40000 euroa urakkapalkkaa. Jotenkin semmoinen fiilis että oikeus ei ehkä päättäisi että rikoshyödyn menettäminen on kohtuutonta jos olisi joku muu varkauden laji kyseessä.
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Sep 28, 2020 13:18
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All this moralizing talk about the Perfidious Youth causing corona to flare up again are conveniently ignoring that 1) schools and universities are back on, which is gonna spread corona on its own amoung young people; 2) professions where you are exposed to other people and their germs are more prevalent among students and under 30 year olds (waiters, cleaners, grocery store clerks, hotels...), while people who have graduated get to sit on their rear end at home Also "don't go to bars and restaurants and spread corona!" is kind of in conflict with allowing them to stay open all night all weekend. Like, you can keep the service economy running at 100 percent, but you can't then turn around and complain that young adults are spreading corona. Bensa posted:Sure, let's make sure the employees with higher salaries, paid off houses, and no kids keep their jobs while the young precariat get fired. I mean, yeah, that's fair, that's why we should have a generous UBI.
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Sep 28, 2020 13:41
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quote:The coronavirus enters into human cells after the spiked protein of the virus binds with the angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) receptor protein on the surface of cells. The team used a genome database of over 140,000 individuals across the globe, and compared the genes of seven proteins associated with viral entry, including ACE2, based on regional and ethnic groups. The genes were classified into groups of African, Latin American, European>>>> (excluding Finland)<<<<, East Asian, and Sout Asian. The study examined if there were any differences among groups in how easily a virus can attach itself to cells, as well as how easily it can enter into them. The findings showed that there was no disparity in the functions and structures of ACE2 seen among different regions and ethnicities. In addition, no differences were confirmed in the genes of the other six proteins which assist viral entry into cells. https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20200928/p2a/00m/0na/013000c
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Sep 28, 2020 22:30
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Sulphagnist posted:I mean, yeah, that's fair, that's why we should have a generous UBI. By global standards toimeentulotuki is a generous UBI scheme. 
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Sep 28, 2020 22:33
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Sulphagnist posted:All this moralizing talk about the Perfidious Youth causing corona to flare up again are conveniently ignoring that That kinda explains why the 20-30 age group are least likely to go to Corona tests when first symptoms appear. However they're not entirely blameless, since here in university some student organizations are still organising parties and sits. Now I will admit that the students are following current regulations to the best of their abilities – at least in the one I've been – but alcohol fuelled events tend to lower people's guards. So far nothing has come out in this university, but we can't say the same for the ones down south. Another are the student economists who will hold their packed up parties, drat the torpedoes, but they are a class of their own, no need for the youth to share their blame.
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Sep 29, 2020 05:32
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No. 1 Callie Fan posted:That kinda explains why the 20-30 age group are least likely to go to Corona tests when first symptoms appear. However they're not entirely blameless, since here in university some student organizations are still organising parties and sits. Now I will admit that the students are following current regulations to the best of their abilities – at least in the one I've been – but alcohol fuelled events tend to lower people's guards. So far nothing has come out in this university, but we can't say the same for the ones down south. Another are the student economists who will hold their packed up parties, drat the torpedoes, but they are a class of their own, no need for the youth to share their blame. Wasn't there a corona exposure case among uni students due to a student party just a few weeks ago? I'm pretty sure the youth are to blame here for being stupid enough to have ryyppäjäisiä period and clubbing or even to the local for pint or two rather than accepting that now's not the time for extended social interaction, followed by hunkering down and getting drunk at home, maybe with a few close mates at most. Or god forbid, even studying. And I'm definitely not just saying that because I'm a terminal goon who stopped going to student things two years ago because ne oli kaikki aivan perseestä.
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Sep 29, 2020 12:23
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The annual independence day castle party has been cancelled. Guess we won't be seeing the cream of the nation dying from asphyxiation.
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Sep 29, 2020 12:40
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endlessmonotony posted:By global standards toimeentulotuki is a generous UBI scheme. Toimeentulotuki is like the opposite of UBI because any money you make reduces it by 100%. The point of UBI is to supplement your income in addition to working part time or for low pay, instead of toimeentulotuki that literally forces you to not work or save or otherwise receive any money at all, and also have no assets.
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Sep 29, 2020 13:57
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No. 1 Callie Fan posted:The annual independence day castle party has been cancelled. Guess we won't be seeing the cream of the nation dying from asphyxiation. Organize the greetings via Zoom you cowards!
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Sep 29, 2020 14:00
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Mail a Pahvi-Sauli to every home and have people tweet pictures of themselves shaking its hand
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Sep 29, 2020 14:09
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doverhog posted:Toimeentulotuki is like the opposite of UBI because any money you make reduces it by 100%. The point of UBI is to supplement your income in addition to working part time or for low pay, instead of toimeentulotuki that literally forces you to not work or save or otherwise receive any money at all, and also have no assets. It's also tedious to apply for since you have to fill out an enormous form, take into account any money you might've gotten from even like your grandma sending you 50 euros for your birthday or whatever and a kind of a gross invasion of privacy because you also have to deliver your bank statement for the past two months because Kela is certain you're probably just trying to scam them and you're actually moonlighting as an asbestos removal specialist. Also, you can apply for max four months at a time (five now IIRC due to corona), and they may randomly threaten you with cutting the base sum you get by first 30% and then 50% if they deem you haven't met their criteria for being reasonably active in trying to improve your life situation that has led you to needing toimeentulotuki in the first place. Even if it's literally something you can't reasonably be expected to just magically "fix" in a couple of months. This, in addition to all the other poo poo about not being able to accept any work or own anything in assets really fucks the system up something bad.
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Sep 29, 2020 16:01
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