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Post created by Grundulum, who is the savior to all who become lost in this game. Bruceski posted:The game's great because it starts up in seconds, no stamina resource, multiple things to do with different time/effort investments, and plays quick so even on a loss you jump right back in. Gems of War is a match-3 game developed by the studio behind Puzzle Quest, and is a F2P version of the original. It is available on Steam, the App Store, and Google Play (all of which can play against each other and share an account across devices); Microsoft Store (Xbox); the Playstation Store (PS4); and possibly other platforms. It's a F2P game, so there are many things to buy, but the devs are very generous with resources and premium currency so you never need to spend real money to advance. Like in Puzzle Quest, the basic mechanic is matching three or more gems of a color to collect mana. Like in Puzzle Quest, you go to battle with four spells that you can cast to affect the opponent and win the match. Unlike Puzzle Quest, these spells are troops with life, armor, and other stats. This is what a PVP match between endgame players looks like: Each player started the battle with four troops, but over the course of the match spells were cast, damage was done, and troops were killed. The first side to lose all four troops loses the match. TDLR: (1) Join a guild. (2) Increase the animation speed. (3) Acquire high-end armor. (4) Unlock/beat kingdoms. (5) Earn gold and level the kingdoms to 10. (6) Build your collection by finding & improving troops. An excellent guide for new players can be found here as well. First off, join an active guild. Players in active guilds get bonus stats in battle, staggering amounts of resources each week, and access to special game modes to earn even more resources. There are two Goon guilds at the moment, both on PC/Mobile: Gem Boiz and Gem Blossums. Post your invite code in the thread to see if there's space, but if not find a guild on the official Gems of War forums. Seriously. The resource boost from being in a good guild is night and day compared to being an unaffiliated player in the game. Night Danger Moose posted:Gem Boiz has a very doable minimum participation requirement from all guild members in guild events. Level 50, level 100, level 1000, anyone can participate in them and it benefits everyone. Now that you're in a guild (you are in a guild, right?), you can look at your Settings menu, and the Graphics tab in particular. See that option for "Animation Speed"? Turn that up as soon as you're comfortable with the game. The default speed is painfully slow, and you will waste days of your life waiting for simple animations to finish if you leave it at x1 forever. Grundulum note: our newer players wrote that x1.5 was fine to learn the ropes, and I have mine at x3. It goes as high as x4 if you feel cheeky. With all of that taken care of, start saving towards the Dragon and/or Celestial armors. Both give substantial bonuses to resources earned in battle, just with slightly different focuses. Chances are you'll start off using Dragon, switch to Celestial for a long time, and end up using Dragon for the rest of the game. If you're feeling flush with cash, you can buy the Deathknight armor and get the best of both worlds. While you save up to buy the armors, you can start on the first long-term task available to you: unlock all the kingdoms of Krystara and beat their story lines. Doing this earns you a free troop of epic rarity, and access to Explore mode (more on this later). In addition, certain game modes are only available once you beat the story of a particular kingdom. Once all the kingdoms are unlocked, your next long-term goal should be to get all the kingdoms to level 10 by donating gold. This gives you bonus stats in battle, and regular rewards of the premium currency. Don't do one kingdom at a time. First, get all your kingdoms to level 5. Then go from 6 to 10 according to the bonus stat provided by the kingdoms. Do magic first, then attack, then life, then armor. Now that your kingdoms are all level 10, you're probably getting tribute most times you collect gold from your home kingdom. This is a significant source of income, and routinely includes the premium currency-gems-just for logging in once an hour and pushing a button. How about that for encouraging an addiction? (Grundulum note: in the end-game, I am averaging 9 kingdoms sending tribute every hour. That's a lot of premium currency the devs are giving out for free!) At this point, you're staring squarely at the mid-game: filling out your collection and building kingdom power. The more troops you have, the larger the variety of teams you can field, and better their stats will be. More stars of kingdom power translates into better tributes from kingdoms, a greater chance of getting tributes, and (eventually) still more bonus stats. Guest post by Manyorcas (original here) I'd like to take a moment to explain exactly how kingdom levels/tribute/etc. work and why new players should put their gold there, since it's never really adequately explained in-game and it was never really explained in any one place online very well. When you buy a new kingdom for 5k, unlocking quests and such for it, you buy it at kingdom level 1 and it comes with a small base +gold income per hour. The real source of gold (and some extra glory and souls) though is kingdom tributes, and it's tied directly to kingdom level. Every time you load up the game and grab your passive income from the gold coins on the map, you roll every kingdom's tribute chance, and each kingdom's tribute chance is determined by its kingdom level, starting at 1% at kingdom level 1 and maxing out at 10% for kingdom level 10. Given that there's ~34 kingdoms right now, once you unlock all of them and level them a bit you're going to be getting several tributes every time you roll for tributes. Kingdom level gets significantly more expensive after level 5, so getting all your kingdoms to 5 after you unlock them will pay back the gold invested very efficiently. Note that you can grab your passive income and roll for tribute every hour, and in a mobile gaming addictive kind of way that means you make significantly more gold if you open the game as many times as possible over the course of the day. It's addictive bullshit designed to get you to think about the game as much as possible and keep you playing. (Grundulum note: yeah, but free stuff…) The other important thing kingdom power does though is grants ALL troops a permanent stat boost every time you get a kingdom to level 10. You can see which stat each kingdom increases on the "Kingdom Level" tab. It can be one of Attack, Armor, Health, and Magic, and Magic is by FAR the most powerful of the stats and you should get the kingdoms that boost magic to 10 ASAP to significantly increase your troops' power. Since the magic stat itself isn't explained in-game very well: any time you see a purple number on a troops' spell, every point of magic increases that number by one. Getting a passive +5 on all those spells from having all 5 magic kingdoms maxed is a huge deal. There's also another kingdom stat called "Kingdom Power" but increasing that is a much longer term project, and working on it will eventually increase your tribute chance, quantity of stuff in tribute, and passive income, but anything beyond Kingdom Power level 2 is fairly difficult to get as a new player. Worry about it after you buy Kingdom levels. From my experience the best way to get gold is PvP, and since the game does a fairly good job of finding appropriately challenging teams to fight you can start pvping very soon. The Dragon armor that costs 500 gems on the hero screen is also super important to making money, make that the first thing you buy with gems.
Night Danger Moose fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Sep 2, 2021 |
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The old thread (https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3736873) GoW on the App Store (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/gems-of-war-match-3-rpg/id897954560) GoW on Google Play (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.com.and.games505.gemsofwar&hl=en) GoW on Steam (https://store.steampowered.com/app/329110/Gems_of_War__Puzzle_RPG/) Goons of War discord invite link: https://discord.gg/qzns4Xk Night Danger Moose fucked around with this message at 01:24 on Aug 2, 2019 |
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Holy poo poo, great work! Thank you!
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# ? Jan 11, 2019 04:32 |
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Links to add to the OP: The old thread (https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3736873) GoW on the App Store (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/gems-of-war-match-3-rpg/id897954560) GoW on Google Play (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.com.and.games505.gemsofwar&hl=en) GoW on Steam (https://store.steampowered.com/app/329110/Gems_of_War__Puzzle_RPG/) Also, someone should PM a mod and ask for the old thread to be closed. I don’t even know who mods Games any more.
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Apparently, my invite code is KLIFF_O9AT, but I assume the guilds are full.
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# ? Jan 11, 2019 07:22 |
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Beautiful post!
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# ? Jan 11, 2019 07:28 |
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Grundulum posted:Also, someone should PM a mod and ask for the old thread to be closed. I don’t even know who mods Games any more. Appropriately it is someone called Video Games. I've dropped them a message. e: Small error in the OP: quote:Imperial Jewel (hero weapon) It (now?) requires 32 of each mastery. I noticed this because I'm level 187 and don't have it yet. Soon though! ee: Can we please add a note somewhere in the OP that it's better to balance your gem masteries when levelling up, rather than going all out in a particular colour? I read that tip early on and found it helpful. Maugrim fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Jan 11, 2019 |
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Hooray, a comprehensive and up-to-date OP! I'll use this spot on the first page to say that I'd never heard of Puzzle Quest and still enjoy this game a bunch. This is the one F2P game I've stuck with other than, like, Hearthstone, and it does a pretty good job of satisfying the collection/progression urge, being very easily playable on phone rather than tablet, and being easy/mindless when you want that while offering opportunities for more challenge when you want that instead. Devs are active, game has reasonable polish, etc. Also, it doesn't require always-on internet -- it connects whenever you finish a battle, get rewards, etc, but if you lose connection while playing it won't ruin anything, and you can play battles between subway stations or whatever if you want.
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Goons of War discord invite link: https://discord.gg/qzns4Xk The biggest single piece of advice in the great new OP is that animation speeds can be turned up to 4x in the settings and this greatly increases the game speed. Very useful when farming resources! With the right conditions, the loading and victory screens take longer than actual battles.
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This game is drat good and I wish I had more time to play it. I always throw the recommendation out there though when someone asks about a good match 3 game.
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Opinions from experienced players... Just trying to get a feel for when it's worth spending orbs of wisdom (of which I have a grand total of 2). I decided to make a push to trait Titan and after a couple of hours grinding in Mist of Scales explore mode I've got this far: Those Runic Blood stones are dropping really rarely and I detest mindless grinding. Would you spend an orb here to get the 2nd trait? Or just suck it up and grind out the rest of the stones?
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Hey, I remember Puzzle Quest. My invite code is CHIPACABRA_FKCP in case there's any spare room somehow.
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Maugrim posted:Opinions from experienced players... Just trying to get a feel for when it's worth spending orbs of wisdom (of which I have a grand total of 2). 100% spend a wisdom orb to get the second trait If I'm 1 or 2 Arcane Traitstones away I'll grind - but otherwise if there's a troop or Hero I want to use, I slam a Wisdom in the second trait, and then buy the third trait (since it costs fewer Arcanes)
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Tendales posted:Hey, I remember Puzzle Quest. My invite code is CHIPACABRA_FKCP in case there's any spare room somehow. We just filled up our last spot in Gem Blossums, although we have a few inactive so we can probably make room soon.
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Devor posted:100% spend a wisdom orb to get the second trait Thanks! I feel like I'm starting to understand how the midgame goes now. Just pulled Queen Mab, my first top tier legendary. Now to spend a week getting her levelled and traited, sigh... What sort of teams does she work well with?
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# ? Jan 13, 2019 12:44 |
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As a counter opinion, I would grind for traitstones whenever I had downtime and a target troop I wanted to trait. This was before Orbs of Wisdom, but still. Teams Mab works well with have two elements: (1) a generator of blue gems, and (2) a way to make lots of 4+ matches and keep the turn. Valkyrie fills both roles, and it gives you souls at the same time!
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# ? Jan 13, 2019 13:19 |
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What is a good use for non diamond jewels in the souls forge?
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Happy Underpants posted:What is a good use for non diamond jewels in the souls forge? Usually I use the non diamond jewels for forging weapons like the parts for Dawnbringer. EDIT: Can anyone else in Gem Blossums collect more seals? All we need is 11 more and then we can reach the 20k seal mark.
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Annointed posted:
I saw that myself earlier and was coming in to tell anyone that was hording seals like I was. Pushed it over with a few pvp ranks. Go spend 'em in the next few hours if you're up and see this! I think it would be nice if guild chest levels were based off of total seals from LAST week. It would mean guilds like ours that get really close to reaching/not reaching the thresholds each week wouldn't have to hold out until Sunday night, but it would require more planning ahead for guilds to hit breakpoints on weekends when there's new mythics Also, I think we need to kick a few players again, which is happening shockingly often now. Hooray new players/turnover?
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# ? Jan 14, 2019 05:10 |
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If there is room in any guild, please send an invite to BOONDIBIS_KJU5
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# ? Jan 14, 2019 05:55 |
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Gem Blossoms and Gem Boiz both being full is a relatively recent development. Games like this, and world of tanks seem to have cyclical popularity.
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# ? Jan 14, 2019 06:47 |
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It’s a Guild Wars week, everyone. Don’t forget to set your defense teams and buy any sentinel levels you want. Also, if you feel so inclined, put together a list of your attack/defense teams so I am not all alone in that section of the OP.
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Grundulum posted:It’s a Guild Wars week, everyone. Don’t forget to set your defense teams and buy any sentinel levels you want. Also, if you feel so inclined, put together a list of your attack/defense teams so I am not all alone in that section of the OP. Would especially appreciate some alternative teams from midgame players since I don't have most of the legendary/mythic troops Grundulum uses! e: Wait why does the game tell me I am not involved in the current guild war?
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# ? Jan 14, 2019 16:32 |
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Maugrim posted:Would especially appreciate some alternative teams from midgame players since I don't have most of the legendary/mythic troops Grundulum uses! Well, my defense teams were heavily modeled on Bandire's, I think, and do include legendaries, but in case helpful: Anti-Green Defense: Alchemist, Hellcat, Yao-Guai, Queen Titanti (Blighted Lands Banner) (But this isn't specifically anti-green, it's just, if I recall, a decent PVP team) Anti-Purple Defense: Forest Troll, Kraken, Queen Mab, Dark Troll (Merlantis Banner) Anti-Blue Defense: Gorgotha, The Dragon Soul, Lamprey, Krystenax (Ghulvania banner) Anti-Brown: Nobend Bros, Princess Fizzbang, Queen Grapplepot, Goblin King (Khetar banner) (Again, just a Goblin team.) I use the same Anti-Blue, Anti-Yellow teams as Grundulum suggests. Also, a team I want to put out there, for lvl 20 Sea of Sorrows Delves: Blackhawk Banner King Mikhail*** Mountain Crusher (Titan, with Storm Aura and Stone Mastery for brown gem bonuses) Troglodyte*** Mercy*** Basically, fill Mikhail ASAP (cast Mercy if and when you can get a 4-5 match, or if it will fill Mikhail or you need to cleanse a Web from him, or if you have no better move), trying to get at least one brown match at some point to enrage him, then cast his spell to, generally, wipe the opponent team in all battles except the Delve-ender. At Delve-end, one cast will generally kill 2 troops, so skulls or a 2nd cast will end that battle. I've found this team faster and more straightforward than any Tesla team. Troglodyte is a guild wars troop, so if you don't have it, a variant of this just has Rock Worms in slots 2 and 3. That team probably needs two Mikhail casts for 2-3 battles per Delve, though (probably equal in speed to the Tesla team, in my experience). onefish fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Jan 14, 2019 |
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I just spent entirely too long setting up my attack teams with another months worth of new troops/traits. There's 1-2 troops in most teams that don't quite fit, so I expect to scout each opponent and swap in an off-color troop against spooky teams like skeleton key or dragon's eye or etc. Red - Mang, Divinia, Yao Guai, Ice Goblin (Sin of Maraj banner)* Green - Pan's Lute, Kraken, Apothecary, Diviner (Primal Rift banner)* Purple - Black Manacles, Stormsinger, Spiritdancer, Kraken (Silverglade banner)* Yellow - Gorgotha, Rope Dart, Valkyrie, Divine Ishbaala (Hall of Guardians banner) Blue - Rope Dart, Turtle Cannon, Apothecary, War (Blackhawk banner) Brown - Mountain Crusher, Turtle Cannon, Diviner, Ubastet (Blackhawk banner) I'm pleased with the new Turtle Cannon. It breaks the first barrier, is a little tanky, and generates 10-16 green gems in the remaining 55 spaces after the explode. And rope dart continues to be a hero. edit: Wasn't happy with Red/Green/Purple. Currently using Red - Death Knell / Titan, Divinia, Yao Guai, King Bloodhammer (Dragon Claw banner) Green - Jar of Eyes / Titan, Yao Guai, Xerodar, The Possessed King (All-Seeing Eye banner) Purple - Glaycion, Hellcat, Infernus, The Possessed King (Hall of Guardians banner) Enkor fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Mar 15, 2019 |
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Thanks, some of those do look slightly more doable for me. It may all be moot though as I don't think Gem Blossums even registered for this war ... Any slots in Gem Boiz? Maugrim fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Jan 14, 2019 |
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Is Bone Dragon worth banging my head against explore for that third 'freeze enemies when they damage me' trait? Seems like it is. I only need 3 more arcane for it.
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New year, new thread. I wouldn't worry about his third trait. It's more of a defensive trait.
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 01:58 |
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Update just hit that has major changes for the better for Classes. You now just assign a class to individual teams rather than selecting one over all. There's no more change cost either. This makes it a lot more practical to use different classes and weapons on your teams, and a hell of a lot easier to level up other classes.
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It's a defensive trait on a troop that can't take a hit. Also, spawn skulls is a little unpredictable for my taste. I just fought my new favorite defense team: Princess Elspeth Lust Lust Lust Admittedly, I only chose the fight because the preview troop was Princess Elspeth, and 4x Elspeth teams are common this week, so the first turn triple charm that killed one of my troops was a surprise.
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 02:41 |
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Arbetor posted:It's a defensive trait on a troop that can't take a hit. Also, spawn skulls is a little unpredictable for my taste. That's what I wasn't sure about. The trait says when skulls damage 'me'. Does me refer to Bone Dragon? If so then no thanks.
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Kaddish posted:That's what I wasn't sure about. The trait says when skulls damage 'me'. Does me refer to Bone Dragon? If so then no thanks. Yep that's how it works. It's not terribly useful.
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https://gemsofwar.com/4-2-5-update/ Class update is pretty fair. I never thought that we'd get free class changes, but here we are. And even better than imagined. Now we truly can level up even marginal classes while doing dailies and still use the best one (or two) for guild wars/invasions/raids/towers. I should check my GW defense teams to make sure that it's the best class.
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Arbetor posted:It's a defensive trait on a troop that can't take a hit. Also, spawn skulls is a little unpredictable for my taste. Been running into some Lust teams lately. Paired with either Firebombs or Sunbird and hero with a summoner weapon.
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 05:41 |
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PSA regarding Guild Wars : people on the official forums are reporting that if they do a Guild Wars battle against an enemy hero that does not show a selected class on the scouting screen, wins are being counted as losses. So make sure to scout your opponents, and consider holding off if any of them don’t show a selected class.
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Grundulum posted:PSA regarding Guild Wars : people on the official forums are reporting that if they do a Guild Wars battle against an enemy hero that does not show a selected class on the scouting screen, wins are being counted as losses. So make sure to scout your opponents, and consider holding off if any of them don’t show a selected class. Must not be all the time, since that didn't affect the 3 no-class-visible fights I did. e: It's showing my team's record on the defense tab. Is that new? it's cool. 0/2 please do better.
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# ? Jan 15, 2019 12:56 |
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I'm getting a bug on Kindle where it constantly loops through telling me there's a new version and I need to update even when I hit restart game. Kindle store doesn't seem to have an update option, the only button reads "open".
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LLSix posted:I'm getting a bug on Kindle where it constantly loops through telling me there's a new version and I need to update even when I hit restart game. Kindle store doesn't seem to have an update option, the only button reads "open". You’re not alone. On the official forums, MourningGlory posted:Has anyone else had problems with the Amazon update? There is no new update in their App store. MourningGlory posted:Thanks Smash. Tried uninstalling, reinstalling. Now I get an error saying there is an required update. "Restart game" Checked the App store and only update showing is last (Version 4.2007). Now I'm stuck in an endless loop of "restart game. I guess it's time to go to support now.
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Grundulum posted:PSA regarding Guild Wars : people on the official forums are reporting that if they do a Guild Wars battle against an enemy hero that does not show a selected class on the scouting screen, wins are being counted as losses. So make sure to scout your opponents, and consider holding off if any of them don’t show a selected class. Cool. I didn't see this bug, but I hadn't updated. Also I ran Draakulus Infernus Ragnagord Ogryn All traited and maxed with a meteor banner, and lost the last game because there was only a SINGLE BROWN GEM on the opening board. Ugh, I never even got Ragnagord powered up. As long as that doesn't happen this is a pretty buff team. (I think you recommended it).
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Is Voice of Orpheus worth crafting? I've only seen it used a couple times but I think I have most of the troops I really wanted to craft at this point.
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