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harperdc
Jul 24, 2007







Welcome to the Island of Misfit Toys Racing Series

This is the Misc. Racing Thread, home for discussion of all kinds of racing that aren't Formula 1, IndyCar, or NASCAR. Feel free to post about sports car racing, touring cars, rallying, off-road racing, motocross, and anything else you can think of. So much good racing is available to watch (especially online officially) that we can share and discuss while enjoying speedy race cars.



So what kind of racing are you talking about here, then?

We talk a lot about sports-car racing. It’s the racing, primarily on road and street courses, of cars which come closest in design and spirit to street cars. After the big And at the top of sports cars are what’s called prototypes -- single-seat racers with closed tops and fenders. The Grand Prix cars of long-distance racing.

Why should I care about sports car racing?

There’s a wide variety -- of cars, drivers, locations, and of race distances. It’s where your favorites from Formula 1, IndyCar and NASCAR past will wind up. Races are often long (6-, 12- and 24-hour races are not uncommon), and feature multiple classes of car racing on the same track but in individual class battles alongside the overall win. The world of sports car racing tends to be friendlier and more approachable than other parts, while still attracting many colorful characters.

Okay. So tell me about the cars!
Within sports car racing, there are two major groups: Prototypes and GT cars.


One of the current LMP-1 prototypes | Current GT Porsche 911 and Aston Martin Vantage

Let’s start with the easier one: Prototypes are often the fastest cars on track, and as mentioned, they’re similar to Formula 1 cars or Indy cars, but build to go fast and for a long time. Within prototypes, there are often various classes -- currently LMP1, LMP2 and LMP3 -- and they refer to generally how fast the cars are.

GT-class cars are generally racing versions of supercars or sports cars from brands like Porsche, Aston Martin, Ferrari, BMW, and others. As long as there has been sports car racing, people have made modifications to street cars to take them racing; now, that work is just more professional and expensive. For example: Porsche uses the 911 as its base for GT racing, and the racing Porsche 911 RSR looks like a Porsche 911 but ready for battle. These cars are raced both by the manufacturers that make them (eg Porsche Racing having “factory” teams) and by customers who buy the cars and enter them.

Also, compared with Formula 1 or IndyCar, the big difference is the cars are teams unto themselves: Even the shorter races generally require two drivers to share time in a car, and endurance races will see teams of three, four, or five drivers sharing duty.

So, what are the series I should know?



The FIA World Endurance Championship is the highest level of sports-car racing. It’s an FIA World Championship, same as Formula 1 and the World Rally Championship, which means a lot. The WEC schedule includes the 24 Hours of Le Mans, which means almost as much, if not more, as Le Mans remains a hugely popular event and a major marketing point for all these big manufacturers. The WEC features LMP1 cars, LMP2 cars, and two GT classes, and is pretty fun to watch.



Under the WEC are various regional series, the highest profile of which is IMSA in the United States. Its a US and Canadian-based series, but many teams and drivers will also compete at Le Mans on an annual basis. IMSA also has a number of high-profile races: endurance epics include the 24 Hours of Daytona in January, the Sebring 12 Hours in March, and Petit Le Mans at Road Atlanta in October, plus marquee shorter races at Long Beach, Road America, and more. Other regional series under the WEC include the European Le Mans Series, and Asian Le Mans Series, which both act as feeders to the World Endurance Championship and 24 Hours of Le Mans.



But there are other series in this sports car world! Many of them fall under a sports car rulebook called GT3. These are cars made by big companies (Porsche, Ferrari, BMW, Mercedes, Nissan, Audi) which are sold to customers. GT3 cars are expected to be balanced to achieve a similar level of performance -- in theory, a driver could take each of those cars around a track and get roughly the same lap time.

This has led to a boom in series aimed to customers, as the cars are relatively affordable, well-built, fairly easy to drive (especially compared to customer cars from the 1970s and ‘80s) and eligible to race in a lot of exciting events. The 24 Hours races at Spa-Francorchamps in Belgium and the Nurburgring in Germany are highlights for GT3-type racing worldwide.

Great! So how/when do I watch?

Because the sports-car world is so diverse, there’s a lot to watch. Happily, much of it is readily available online or even via YouTube.

  • WEC: It has a streaming app/website for live events, and a YouTube channel for replays
  • 24 Hours of Le Mans: Part of the above WEC package, but also has plenty of coverage for free via YouTube and other partner streams
  • IMSA: For live coverage, from 2019 IMSA is partnering with NBC in the U.S., will have live coverage on various NBC channels, and IMSA Radio is always free and excellent. Also check out the YouTube channel afterwards. Outside of the U.S.? IMSA TV provides free coverage using the IMSA Radio audio. This also includes the lower-level series that IMSA also has, including the Michelin Pilot Challenge, Lamborghini Supertrofeo, Prototype Challenge, etc.
  • European and Asian Le Mans Series: These both stream free, AsLMS via YouTube.
  • Blancpain GT Series: Online via YouTube
  • Super GT: Anime GT has been available via YouTube thanks to sponsorship from Nissan, TBC for 2019 coverage
  • Other events: Most all of these have some free streaming component, which we put in the thread as they come up.

Recommended Links/Follows

  • Racer -- racer.com -- Good coverage of American racing
  • Daily Sports Car -- dailysportscar.com -- Great coverage of all sports car series

Other questions? Reach out and ask! Recommendations? Please suggest and we'll try to add them in.

Come join us on Discord! https://discord.gg/kg3d2Uu

Misc Threads of the Past
Misc Auto Racing 2018: Mazda gonna Mazda
Misc Auto Racing 2017: gently caress off Whincup
Misc Auto Racing 2016 : Downgraded From Silver Posters to Bronze
Misc Auto Racing 2015: At least our criminals are non-violent
Misc Auto Racing 2014: So long and thanks for all the McNish
Misc Auto Racing 2013: Beware: Ferrari Ahead
Misc. Auto Racing 2012: No War But Class War
Sportscars 2011: Racing with Class (ILMC/ALMS/GrandAm)
2011 Daytona 24 Hours
2010 Daytona 24 Hours

harperdc fucked around with this message at Jan 12, 2019 around 03:52

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Other Wonderful Misfit Series of Note

Formula E YouTube Channel Link



Now in its fifth season, the FIA Formula E championship is a heavily-pushed series that attempts to re-think multiple aspects of the traditional racing series and weekend. Beyond eschewing internal combustion engines for a fully electric drivetrain, the series also stands out thanks to having one-day events (qualifying and the race on the same day), and holding those events not at existing race circuits but in city centers worldwide.

This year is actually a decent time to get into Formula E: the season has just started (the first round was in December 2018 in Saudi Arabia), the races are easy to watch and don't run 2+ hours each, and most importantly, there's a new chassis for this year. This means the most common joke leveled at Formula E -- that its cars couldn't last a race distance, so drivers had to pit stop not to refuel but to change cars -- is now gone, replaced by something that also happens to look a good bit more Tron.

The other aspect with Formula E is that, compared with other top-level parts of motor racing, it's relatively inexpensive and is attracting a ton of manufacturers: Audi, BMW, DS, Jaguar, Mahindra and Nissan all have teams in the series, while Mercedes-Benz and Porsche are both set to join in coming years. It's relevant to their marketing departments trying to get you to forget Dieselgate engineering teams working on advancing battery-electric technology for road car use, and halfway decent racing to boot.

World Rally Championship (WRC)

Rally is in a better position than its been for years. Rules have been liberalized giving the cars about 380hp and growing more crazy aero appendages every event. There are currently four major teams, Hyundai, Toyota, Citroen and M-Sport (privateers using Fords), and they have all won several events the past few years making it one of the most even fields ever in Rally.

Teams

Hyundai

Hyundai has steadily grown over the last 20 years to become one of the most resourceful and best teams, but it has never really come together for them to take a title. They never seem to have quite the fastest or most robust car, or the fastest drivers, but it has been achingly close for years.

Toyota

Toyota returned to rally in 2017. Originally the team was planned to be run by the same outfit that runs the LMP programme in Germany. Rally legend Tommi Makinen was given the job instead, and the team has been based out of his barn in Finland since. The confidence put in him paid off quickly with them winning in only their second event in Sweden. They have quickly become one of the most competitive teams, crowned by winning the manufacturers title in 2018. An eclectic stable of drivers and a fast but somewhat frail car makes this an exiting team to follow. It also seems to enjoy strong personal support by Toyota CEO and heir Akio Toyoda.

M-Sport

M-Sport is the chronically underfunded privateer running Fords. They used to be the Ford factory team until 2012, and languished in the following years. When VW pulled out of rally following the 2016 season, team boss Malcom Wilson reportedly mortgaged his house to secure their champion Sebastian Ogier. It immediately paid off and M-Sport secured the drivers title twice and the manufactures title once in the past two seasons. With their in-house prodigy Ott Tanak leaving for Toyota last year, and Ogier going to Citroen this year, I fear they will return to mediocracy, but I’d love to be proven wrong

Citroen

Citroen went from being one of the most dominant teams ever, to pretty poo poo since Loeb left. They put all their faith in Kris Meeke as their lead driver even when they had the chance to grab any of the VW drivers two years back, only to fire him mid-season last year. They were the only team not to win a rally last year. Now they have lured Ogier back, and will probably be a force to be reconed with from that alone

Select Drivers

Sebasitian Ogier Co driver: Julien Ingrassia Team: Citroen
Has won the past six drivers world championships. First with the dominant VW team, then with the underdog M-Sport team. He will move to the underdog Citroen team this year to try to further his legacy. Unquestionably the best driver of the current generation, but his driving style is quite lairy and fun to watch.

Thierry Neuville Co driver: Nicolas Gilsoul Team: Hyundai
The perennial runner up. He has finished second 5 times in the championship but never won. Although he is fast and seemingly much tidier than Ogier, he makes a few too many mistakes across a season to truly challenge him. Maybe this year will be it?

Ott Tanak Co driver: Martin Järveoja Team: Toyota
The M-Sport wonderchild moved to Toyota before the 2018 season, and immediately positioned himself as their #1 driver. His Toyota had one too many reliability issues in the early season last year for him to be in serious contention for the championship, but he was extremely fast after the summer break to drag himself back into contention. With the Toyota getting ever better, and Ogier having to adapt to a new team, this might just be his year.

Kris Meeke Co driver Sebastian Marshall Team: Toyota
Collin McRae’s spiritual successor. His win or crash altitude didn’t endear him to his previous employers Citroen, but he is hugely fun to watch. Toyota has taken him on for this season

Jari Matti Latvalla Co driver: Miikka Anttila Team: Toyota
The other perennial runner up. As Ogiers team mate at VW, he was always that little bit behind, and by his own admission it took a toll on him mentally. Now his new teammate Ott Tanak is upstaging him as well. He is the most experienced driver in the field, and still has the speed to win rallies though.

Andreas Mikkelsen Co driver: Anders Jaeger Team: Hyundai
Was without a job when VW folded two years ago but was taken in by Hyundai as a full-time driver. He had an awful last season with freak accidents and poor reliability. Nonetheless, he will have to improve to keep his drive.

Sebastien Loeb Co Driver: Daniel Elena Team: Hyundai
The other dominant Sebastian having a record 9 driver titles under his belt. He retired from full time rally in 2012 and has only attended select events since. Now that his rallycross team has folded, he might be a more frequent fixture. Still has the speed to win events.

How to watch

All stages are now streamed live on the WRC+ paid streaming service. Its pretty good if fairly low bitrate and quality, but the events take place in the middle of nowhere, so nut sure how much one can expect.
https://plus.wrc.com/en/?utm_source...tent=livestages
There are live text updates and timing on the WRC webpage.
https://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/livetimi...e/4175----.html
The youtube channel has short summaries and highlights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WERua1duBTU


Super GT



Ah yes. This one's more for the hardcore. Almost 25 years old, the Super GT series (previously the Japanese GT Championship or JGTC) is Japan's premier national sports car series, and a paradise for diehard racing fans.

The series is divided in two classes: GT500 and GT300. The top class, GT500, is the home of factory-backed teams racing Nissan, Honda and Lexus/Toyota machines, though there is often strong family rivalries inside each of the brand's teams. As well, these teams are backed by the manufacturer's engineering departments -- this is purely an exercise in the designers and boffins trying to make faster race cars, not to market them to the masses. It's also an engineering exercise for the tire brands, who can develop the tires throughout the year -- a major difference compared with other series around the world.

And there are a number of teams which have been running with their brands since the early days 20-plus years ago. This is where I mention the "blue shinkansen" Impul Nissan, the Denso Sard and TOMS Toyotas, the orange ARTA Honda and blue Real Racing Honda. If you played Gran Turismo 2, you'd be shocked to see familiar cars on the grid in 2019.

The GT300 class is made of privateers, with a few smaller factory efforts rolled in. Most teams have moved to GT3 machinery, but a few oddballs still exist. Subaru has built a BRZ using the old WRC engine, for example. And then there's the Toyota Priuses, which use off-the-shelf hybrid systems, but had put a Prototype-grade V8 racing engine into the middle of the car until this season. Madness.

It goes without saying that this is mad, wonderful racing. Nissan has helped make this series more accessible to those outside Japan in recent years, hosting English commentary streams on their NISMO YouTube channel. Hopefully they'll continue for 2019.


Series Schedules

2018-19 WEC "Super Season"

  • 5 May 2018 - WEC 6 Hours of Spa-Francorchamps
  • 16/17 June 2018 - 24 Hours of Le Mans
  • 19 August 2018 - 6 Hours of Silverstone
  • 21 October 2018 - 6 Hours of Fuji
  • 18 November 2018 - 6 Hours of Shanghai
  • 15 March 2019 - 12 Hours of Sebring
  • 4 May 2019 - WEC 6 Hours of Spa-Francorchamps
  • 15/16 June 2019 - 24 Hours of Le Mans

2019 IMSA WeatherTech Sports Car Series

  • January 26-27 - Rolex 24 at Daytona
  • March 16 - 12 Hours of Sebring
  • April 13 - Long Beach Grand Prix (1 hr 40 min)
  • May 5 - Mid-Ohio (2 hr 40 min)
  • June 1 - Detroit Grand Prix (1 hr 40 min)
  • June 30 - Six Hours of Watkins Glen
  • July 7 - Canadian Tire Motorsport Park (2 hr 40 min)
  • July 20 - Lime Rock Park (2 hr 40 min)
  • August 4 - Road America (2 hr 40 min)
  • August 25 - Virginia International Raceway (2 hr 40 min)
  • September 15 - Laguna Seca (2 hr 40 min)
  • October 12 - Petit Le Mans (10 hr)

2018-19 Formula E Series

  • December 15, 2018 - Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
  • January 12 - Marrakesh, Morocco
  • January 26 - Santiago, Chile
  • February 16 - Mexico City, Mexico
  • March 10 - Hong Kong
  • March 23 - Sanya, China
  • April 13 - Rome, Italy
  • April 27 - Paris, France
  • May 11 - Monte Carlo, Monaco
  • May 25 - Berlin, Germany
  • June 22 - Bern, Switzerland
  • July 13 - Brooklyn, U.S.
  • July 14 - Brooklyn, U.S.

2019 World Rally Championship
  • January 24-27 - Rally Monte Carlo (Mixed)
  • February 14-17 - Rally Sweden (Snow)
  • March 7-10 - Rally Mexico (Gravel)
  • March 28-31 - Tour de Corse (Tarmac)
  • April 25-28 - Rally Argentina (Gravel)
  • May 9-12 - Rally Chile (Gravel)
  • May 30-June 2 - Rally de Portugal (Gravel)
  • June 13-16 - Rally Sardegnia (Gravel)
  • August 1-4 - 1000 Lakes Rally Finland (Gravel)
  • August 22-25 - Rally Germany (Tarmac)
  • September 12-15 - Rally Turkey (Gravel)
  • October 3-6 - Wales Rally GB (Gravel)
  • October 24-27 - Rally Catalunya (Mixed)
  • November 14-17 - Rally Australia (Gravel)

2019 European Le Mans Series

  • April 14 - Le Castellet 4 hr
  • May 12 - Monza 4 hr
  • July 21 - Barcelona 4 hr
  • August 31 - Silverstone 4 hr
  • September 22 - Spa-Francorchamps 4 hr
  • October 27 - Portimao 4 hr

2018-19 Asian Le Mans Series

  • November 25 - Shanghai 4 hr
  • December 9 - Fuji 4 hr
  • January 12 - Buriram 4 hr
  • February 24 - Sepang 4 hr

2019 Super GT

  • April 14 - Okayama
  • May 4 - Fuji Speedway
  • May 26 - Suzuka
  • June 30 - Buriram
  • August 4 - Fuji Speedway
  • September 8 - Autopolis
  • September 22 - Sugo
  • November 3 - Twin Ring Motegi

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harperdc
Jul 24, 2007





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Wirth1000
May 12, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 16 days!


DTM ditched their loving sweet night race at Misano, fuckers.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007





Asian Le Mans Series round at Buriram is live in an hour and a half:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzCLPYsazK8

marshalljim
Mar 6, 2013


24H Series at Dubai is streaming live atm with about 8 hours to go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEz-xBixEG4

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009



Kinda disappointed are Lance isn't doing the 24 hours of Daytona this year.

MazeOfTzeentch
May 2, 2009

rip miso beno


Formula E threads were kinda dead so I figured we'd talk about it here. I normally made those but idk if it's enough for it's own. They're running at Marrakesh this weekend, 10am Eastern

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007





MazeOfTzeentch posted:

Formula E threads were kinda dead so I figured we'd talk about it here. I normally made those but idk if it's enough for it's own. They're running at Marrakesh this weekend, 10am Eastern

That makes sense, changed the wording. I’ll add the schedule to the OP, if you want a Formula E sub-section too feel free.

Think I might add links in the schedules to YouTube videos for any of the races that have happened already (like WEC, Formula E and AsLMS). Might be worth it through the year too.

Humbug
Dec 3, 2006
Bogus

Dakar 2019 is going on right now. Its set in Peru. Rally fans should find some familiar faces in Sebastian Loeb, Carlos Sainz Sr and Nasser Al-Attiyah.
Their youtube channel puts out recaps for each day and category.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BohZiogQBJk

I might do a WRC overview when the season starts in two weeks time.

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008





I think there were 3 NHRA posts last year (and only 1 was me) so I'm not even gonna bother a drag racing post

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007





Peanut President posted:

I think there were 3 NHRA posts last year (and only 1 was me) so I'm not even gonna bother a drag racing post

that pass was so fast I think it has T/F written on the screen

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008





tf is the f1 of drag racing, give me pro stock as the only class or give me death

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008





also bring back P/T

Fauxhawk Express
Oct 28, 2007

the first world was a mistake

Pro stock is a parody of itself now and should just be axed. I don't even think they run the full schedule anymore. Glory to funny cars and pro mods.

CactusWeasle
Aug 1, 2006
It's not a party until the bomb squad says it is

That FE race

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.

CactusWeasle posted:

That FE race

This is always a sure sign that I need to watch the replay when I get home.

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008





Fauxhawk Express posted:

Pro stock is a parody of itself now and should just be axed. I don't even think they run the full schedule anymore. Glory to funny cars and pro mods.

You're thinking of Pro Stock Bike which hasn't run the whole schedule in years.

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008





oh poo poo looking up the 2019 schedule they have started pruning prostock loving as hell

Fauxhawk Express
Oct 28, 2007

the first world was a mistake

I don't think the bikes have ever run the full schedule, but yeah I recall reading a few days ago that PS wasn't running every event. Pro Stock used to be so loving cool, what with everyone trying to sneak nitrous in their cars and Ford/GM fans fighting in the stands.

Also listening to Rinehart and Tony Pedregon makes the Cheever/Goodyear duo sound enthralling.

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an oddly awful oud
May 1, 2008

all my friends are pieces of shit

Thread title should've been "Dicks Out for Daytona" imo

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Upset Trowel

an oddly awful oud posted:

Thread title should've been "Dicks Out for Daytona" imo

Don't we have a SAS mod in here who can take care of this for us

VikingSkull
Jan 23, 2017


Pro Stock is at its best when drivers flip their cars multiple times and then scramble out of the car to place something over the intake and heads so no one can get a look at them

iospace
Apr 20, 2020




Fun Shoe

orange juche posted:

Don't we have a SAS mod in here who can take care of this for us

She's at work, give her time

MazeOfTzeentch
May 2, 2009

rip miso beno


CactusWeasle posted:

That FE race

Watched it on DVR, the Fox coverage was rear end as usual but dang that was a great race.

MazeOfTzeentch
May 2, 2009

rip miso beno


https://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/...san-dpi-livery/

Core using the GTP ZX-Turbo livery

Frond
Mar 12, 2018



I generally like throwback colours but the design doesn’t work here.

iospace
Apr 20, 2020




Fun Shoe

Frond posted:

I generally like throwback colours but the design doesn’t work here.

I think it works.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Upset Trowel


Nice

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007






Niiiiiice

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post



Well here it comes, we all knew it was gonna happen, BoP changes after the roar:

https://racer.com/2019/01/16/imsa-r...ex-bop-changes/

Wait... no changes?? That track record is falling yall.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Upset Trowel

Cygni posted:

Well here it comes, we all knew it was gonna happen, BoP changes after the roar:

https://racer.com/2019/01/16/imsa-r...ex-bop-changes/

Wait... no changes?? That track record is falling yall.

Bring it on.

an oddly awful oud
May 1, 2008

all my friends are pieces of shit

Cygni posted:

Well here it comes, we all knew it was gonna happen, BoP changes after the roar:

https://racer.com/2019/01/16/imsa-r...ex-bop-changes/

Wait... no changes?? That track record is falling yall.

Hell loving yeah

iospace
Apr 20, 2020




Fun Shoe

Cygni posted:

Well here it comes, we all knew it was gonna happen, BoP changes after the roar:

https://racer.com/2019/01/16/imsa-r...ex-bop-changes/

Wait... no changes?? That track record is falling yall.

Get the gently caress in

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007





Mazda will either win or go kaboom, and I’m here for it.

MazeOfTzeentch
May 2, 2009

rip miso beno


Only thing that Mazda got was some minor aero changes, gently caress yeah.

Fauxhawk Express
Oct 28, 2007

the first world was a mistake

harperdc posted:

Mazda will either win or go kaboom, and I’m here for it.

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

Again, Torts took him to a very high mountain and showed him Nationwide and all its splendor.

"All this I will give you," he said, "if you will lay down and block for me." -Jackets 15:16



They said AJ Allmendinger was going to be on the broadcast team for the Rolex 24, but IMSA.com has him on the entry list so ?

https://www.imsa.com/news/012019/57...RaxWRqcDDRaV1LI

e- If anybody cares, it sounds like Dave Burns is going to be one of the pit reporters for IMSA during the non-NBC portion of the NASCAR schedule.

CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at Jan 17, 2019 around 17:54

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

Again, Torts took him to a very high mountain and showed him Nationwide and all its splendor.

"All this I will give you," he said, "if you will lay down and block for me." -Jackets 15:16



N: The NBC Rolex 24 announcer roster will alternate every three hours for the duration of the race and is basically all hands on deck from NBC's motorsports properties:

A-Team:
Booth- Leigh Diffey, Calvin Fish, AJ Allmendinger
Pits- Marty Snider, Dave Burns, Kelli Stavast
Peacock Pit Box- Krista Voda, Steve Letarte, Dale Earnhardt, Jr., Townsend Bell
Roving Reporter- Rutledge Wood

B-Team:
Booth- Rick Allen, Paul Tracy, Townsend Bell, Brian Till
Pits- Jon Beekhuis, Kevin Lee, Parker Kligerman
Peacock Pit Box- Krista Voda
Roving Reporter- Rutledge Wood

The announcer pairings change from time to time; Till goes to the A team from 9-Midnight, for example. Townsend Bell and AJ Allmendinger are both running the race in addition to doing TV. Given that they're not on the overnight shifts, I'm guessing that's when they'll be in the cars. There are also a pile of drivers who have run the race (Fish, Dinger, Junyer, Bell, PT) or covered it (Till) on the crew.

V: Oh good, Rick Allen is going to have four different classes to get all sorts of confused. Also, Rutledge.

e- I guess the link would help for full details: https://www.imsa.com/news/012019/nb...car-and-indycar

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Fauxhawk Express
Oct 28, 2007

the first world was a mistake

CBJSprague24 posted:

Roving Reporter- Rutledge Wood

oh

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