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Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

Account McAccount posted:

*edit: nvm too much detail but in summary: you're all hosed because of this and you don't even realize it

not disturbing at all

What was it? Nuclear facilities abandoned? Maintenance at 0%? Spies not being paid and selling secrets to Latvians?

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Dr. Gojo Shioji
Apr 22, 2004

Arrhythmia posted:

I hope the shutdown never ends and the states realize that there's no one in charge and America accidentally balkanizes.

:jackbud:

OMFG FURRY
Jul 10, 2006

[snarky comment]

Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:

not disturbing at all

What was it? Nuclear facilities abandoned? Maintenance at 0%? Spies not being paid and selling secrets to Latvians?

surplus of labor / low unemployment

sex excellence
Feb 19, 2011

Satisfaction Guranteed

Dr. S.O. Feelgood posted:

The only thing better than being sent home without pay is being forced to work without pay.

I've discovered I somehow have way more money than coworkers who make 2-3x what I do. And I'm not even talking about the ones with kids.



welcome to being the average american debt-slave: live on the margins of your means. take out loans for cars and houses that are too expensive. consume.

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum
It's real wierd to have fotecast the decline and balkanizarion of the USA as an edgy teenager a decade ago, and now be watching it in real time.

It's like telling your buddy that he's gonna poo poo on his own face in a week - and then subsequently watching him stop on the sidewalk, get into the tubgirl pose, and go to town like free willy coming up for air. You're just left with a mixed feeling of awe and disgust, really. :stare:

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Arrhythmia posted:

I hope the shutdown never ends and the states realize that there's no one in charge and America accidentally balkanizes.

Canada would be happy to pick up Michigan, Minnesota, and Wisconsin on the cheap. they would make great provences

dads friend steve
Dec 24, 2004

Account McAccount posted:

*edit: nvm too much detail but in summary: you're all hosed because of this and you don't even realize it

:justpost:

Cmon fam. I mean, I know we’re hosed but I figure it’s because GOP is gonna use this to try to permanently gut everything forever. What’s your theory?

White Light
Dec 19, 2012

Oh boy, I wonder what's gonna happen if this shutdown drags out all year, that's gonna be nuts.

The only sure thing to come out of this is that Trump supporters will still support him no matter how penniless and homeless this makes them. Gonna be a shitshow for the ages

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

Rime posted:

It's real wierd to have fotecast the decline and balkanizarion of the USA as an edgy teenager a decade ago, and now be watching it in real time.

It's like telling your buddy that he's gonna poo poo on his own face in a week - and then subsequently watching him stop on the sidewalk, get into the tubgirl pose, and go to town like free willy coming up for air. You're just left with a mixed feeling of awe and disgust, really. :stare:

The funnier thing is that it wasn't really 9/11, it was Facebook and the internet in general exploiting dumb people

Rod Hoofhearted
Jun 18, 2000

I am a ghost




Parrotine posted:

Oh boy, I wonder what's gonna happen if this shutdown drags out all year, that's gonna be nuts.

The only sure thing to come out of this is that Trump supporters will still support him no matter how penniless and homeless this makes them. Gonna be a shitshow for the ages

It won't drag out all year. Eventually the TSA and Air Traffic Controllers will be on strike in all but name. The airports will be unofficially shut down. When rich people can't jet around the country as a "business expense," then McConnell and the GOP will be forced to allow a vote.

Also, today's Gallup poll has Trump at 37% approve/59% disapprove. The longer the shutdown drags on, the worse those numbers will get, and the worse those numbers get, the more GOP'ers in Congress will feel free to defy him on this.

The real frustration comes when the shutdown is resolved and Trump's approval bounces back up to 44%. Because nothing matters.

EDIT:
https://twitter.com/costareports/status/1085302803482980353

LOL

Rod Hoofhearted fucked around with this message at 03:41 on Jan 16, 2019

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
wouldn't flights be faster if TSA goes on strike?

The Dennis System
Aug 4, 2014

Nothing in Jurassic World is natural, we have always filled gaps in the genome with the DNA of other animals. And if the genetic code was pure, many of them would look quite different. But you didn't ask for reality, you asked for more teeth.
I've watched six hours of Survivor today, lol. Still better than going to work.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

The Dennis System posted:

I've watched six hours of Survivor today, lol. Still better than going to work.

survivor rules. we're there any good blindsideds?

The Dennis System
Aug 4, 2014

Nothing in Jurassic World is natural, we have always filled gaps in the genome with the DNA of other animals. And if the genetic code was pure, many of them would look quite different. But you didn't ask for reality, you asked for more teeth.

Rutibex posted:

survivor rules. we're there any good blindsideds?

None so far, but I'm watching season 26, so I'm like ten seasons behind.

El_Elegante
Jul 3, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Biscuit Hider

Rutibex posted:

wouldn't flights be faster if TSA goes on strike?

A little, but where flight times will really plummet is when FAA ATCs go on strike.

dads friend steve
Dec 24, 2004

[pounding on my desk] GENERAL! STRIKE! GENERAL! STRIKE!

Rod Hoofhearted
Jun 18, 2000

I am a ghost




Rutibex posted:

wouldn't flights be faster if TSA goes on strike?

Nope. Rather than just let everyone on without going through security, they would instead let no one fly. They're really committed to this TSA thing, and if they let people on planes without going through TSA checkpoints and another 9/11 didn't happen, they'd have to explain why we've spent trillions of dollars on TSA for the past 17 years. They're not going to let that happen.

Reign Of Pain
May 1, 2005

Nap Ghost

hattersmad posted:

NASA goon. Funding is good for a couple more weeks for me. After that, mandatory unpaid leave :sweatdrop:

e: I feel for everyone already on furlough. poo poo is rough.

At least you won't have to work for free like I've been doing. I think my manager might swap me out and make another team member come in next week....we'll all eventually get paid for it....one day

It looks like they're about to call back 36,000 employees for filing season too....I'd really hate to get audited by an unpaid agent.


e: Oh yeah, if this goes on 1 more pp we will have to start paying out of pocket for dental and vision insurance

Reign Of Pain fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Jan 16, 2019

Teriyaki Koinku
Nov 25, 2008

Bread! Bread! Bread!

Bread! BREAD! BREAD!

"He's not hurting the people he needs to be hurting."

drat, that's a sad indictment of the American people. :911:

Vato
Jan 14, 2018

Hearts and minds, kids.

Teriyaki Koinku
Nov 25, 2008

Bread! Bread! Bread!

Bread! BREAD! BREAD!

its all nice on rice posted:

Lol my grandma sent me $50 she won in bingo because she was was worried about me during the shutdown :3:

You have an awesome grandma.

Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:

That this happens in the wealthiest country in the world is also funny

Maybe America is only so powerful and wealthy on the surface because it's built on the vampiric exploitation of its people? :ssh:

Teriyaki Koinku fucked around with this message at 05:33 on Jan 16, 2019

Gigas-VII
Sep 20, 2004

PANDA TANZ-PARTY
The whole situation is just pathetic. We shouldn't have to deal with this, neither as a nation nor as a workforce. If we aren't going to be paid, we shouldn't be expected to work, and yet, if we don't work, our country falls apart, fast. So, it's patriotic to work our role, even without pay. But it certainly doesn't mesh with capitalist ideology that the current administration champions.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

Gigas-VII posted:

The whole situation is just pathetic. We shouldn't have to deal with this, neither as a nation nor as a workforce. If we aren't going to be paid, we shouldn't be expected to work, and yet, if we don't work, our country falls apart, fast. So, it's patriotic to work our role, even without pay. But it certainly doesn't mesh with capitalist ideology that the current administration champions.

Right?! It’s even got a socialist aspect of you have to sacrifice and contribute for the greater good. Astounding hypocrisy

the nucas
Sep 12, 2002

Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:

The funnier thing is that it wasn't really 9/11, it was Facebook and the internet in general exploiting dumb people

back in like march i read a book called "the origins of the internet" by katie hafner, and one of the early ARPA guys talking about his dream in the 60s of interconnected information systems in people's homes making people the perfect rational actors, with immediate access to the data they needed making for a more perfect democracy. it was kind of sad.

White Light
Dec 19, 2012

Why dont people just quit their jobs then? If they're not gonna pay employees what they're rightfully owed and not allowed to strike, then just....quit?

What are they gonna do, fire you for the job that doesnt pay? Look for any other type of hourly paying job to make ends meet until July 2019 or whenever this finally rolls over

OMFG FURRY
Jul 10, 2006

[snarky comment]
yeah why don't people just quit when the majority of Americans tend to have negative savings and benefits are growing more scarce everyday

Just Get A New Job

underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747

yeah I eat rear end posted:

well, yeah, but alcholics can still go on benders. Normally I am more restrained and make sure I'm not too hung over to last through a meeting. When I know basically nobody else will be in the office that downgrades to just making sure I can drive to work safely, which is a much easier standard to meet.

You have a problem with alcohol my dude

underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
Use this time off work to get clean. Stop drinking and sweat it out. Your lifestyle is hosed man, if its hard to cut alcohol at all then thats your body agreeing with me.

hattersmad
Feb 21, 2015

In this style, 10/6

Parrotine posted:

Why dont people just quit their jobs then? If they're not gonna pay employees what they're rightfully owed and not allowed to strike, then just....quit?

What are they gonna do, fire you for the job that doesnt pay? Look for any other type of hourly paying job to make ends meet until July 2019 or whenever this finally rolls over

Wouldn’t surprise me if people start doing exactly that.

Then when govt re-opens, they have to start by hiring people, then training them, then picking up the backlog of work. Hooray for throwing money away due to brinksmanship.

PneumonicBook
Sep 26, 2007

Do you like our owl?



Ultra Carp

Rutibex posted:

Canada would be happy to pick up Michigan, Minnesota, and Wisconsin on the cheap. they would make great provences

Wisconsin becoming a province of Canada would be great and id stay in this awful state forever.

White Light
Dec 19, 2012

OMFG FURRY posted:

yeah why don't people just quit when the majority of Americans tend to have negative savings and benefits are growing more scarce everyday

Just Get A New Job

Yes, and being tethered to working a job with NO pay whatsoever fixes that how exactly?

OMFG FURRY
Jul 10, 2006

[snarky comment]
there are no simple solutions to complex problems

underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
Just get a new job you idiots. You dumbasses. You total dickheads. Just do it. Just get rehired. You loving assholes.

Reign Of Pain
May 1, 2005

Nap Ghost

Parrotine posted:

Why dont people just quit their jobs then? If they're not gonna pay employees what they're rightfully owed and not allowed to strike, then just....quit?

What are they gonna do, fire you for the job that doesnt pay? Look for any other type of hourly paying job to make ends meet until July 2019 or whenever this finally rolls over

I don't want to throw away 15 years towards a gov't retirement. Donny has already signed a law that will pay federal employees back pay when the gov't starts back up again. I can't take jobs outside of the IRS unless I get approval

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

935 posted:

Have you tried asking your landlor if you can do maintenance in leu of paying rent?

Lmfao

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Parrotine posted:

Why dont people just quit their jobs then? If they're not gonna pay employees what they're rightfully owed and not allowed to strike, then just....quit?

What are they gonna do, fire you for the job that doesnt pay? Look for any other type of hourly paying job to make ends meet until July 2019 or whenever this finally rolls over

A bunch of TSA people already have, and more are going to join them every day. But the country is also at full employment and employers are hesitant to hire because everyone believes that we're due for a recession. So the people quitting now are probably the ones who were able to easily line up alternative, comparatively-paying employment. But the rest of them who aren't easily able to find another job, to them working with the promise of being paid later is better than not working at all.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

also if this started hitting the bottom line of defense contractors you could look forward to the shutdown ending the next day as a bunch of congressmen line up to personally stab donald trump in the back like a scene out of shakespeare lol

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

There's nothing more depressing than the monthly GBS thread where some dude is desperately trying to downplay his alcoholism as gaggles of goons attempt to force him to come to terms with his addiction.

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

Wait the rape dungeon thread is pretty depressing sorry I lied.

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Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
The climate thread in CSPAM periodically takes a dark turn when someone's conclusion is "welp better just kill myself then."

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