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juche avocado posted:BUTTIGIEG all i'm saying is that i wouldn't consider her to be a leftist. she exists somewhere in the space between leftist and bad lib. I'm not even saying that's bad! I'm just saying that if you are going to her for leftist takes you aren't getting the genuine article. I don't consider her to be communist in any way, much less remotely socialist, and thats fine! my take is pretty meaningless tho, i'm not saying she's bad, i'm a huge fan of hers. If you like her keep listening to her! I will. She's just not remotely radical with any of her beliefs. bean mom has issued a correction as of 04:01 on Jan 26, 2019 |
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Liquid Communism posted:A weird number also don't know that it doesn't prevent any other STDs and think it's a license to bareback, because US sex ed is loving awful, even when it means well. lol people know it doesn't do anything for other STDs they just take the risk. what the gently caress is this
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i may or may not be bisexual
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hi i'm bisexual and my gender is not legally recognized where i live
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animist posted:i may or may not be bisexual This is easy to fix, just tell random people youre bisexual and theyll magically determine if youre gay or straight
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animist posted:i may or may not be bisexual Hi handsome, wish i could find a nice bi dude to talk to and fool around with maybe Being bi ain't easy
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another point in the word heterosexism's favor: it includes bi people & doesn't half-or-more erase them like homophobia does 
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Zyla posted:all i'm saying is that i wouldn't consider her to be a leftist. she exists somewhere in the space between leftist and bad lib. I'm not even saying that's bad! I'm just saying that if you are going to her for leftist takes you aren't getting the genuine article. I don't consider her to be communist in any way, much less remotely socialist, and thats fine! i don't understand how someone can make a 45 minute critique of capitalism that ropes in a quick survey of "boring dead eastern bloc blowhards" and gives em a quick, half-ironic shitposty shot in the arm to update them for the sensibility of the 21st century young person before concluding with "socialism*** is good, actually" and be accused of not being even a little bit leftist are we desperately trying to push away allies and agreement-havers because that is the vibe I'm getting she's been open about her own personal journey growing up in a conservative-leaning household in a same-leaning society and how she's ~evolved~ over time ***ok the quote is champagne socialism and yes i know — but it's a dialogue between characters and also what if we [re]claimed champagne socialism?? these are all my 100% earnest, truly-held opinions. I'm not trying to white knight, I really desperately am not; ask MY BOYFRIEND, he will confirm for you that i suck i think i should make a contrapoints thread tbf. this discussion doesn't belong here (that is, I feel guilty for perpetuating it)
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juche avocado posted:i don't understand how someone can make a 45 minute critique of capitalism that ropes in a quick survey of "boring dead eastern bloc blowhards" and gives em a quick, half-ironic shitposty shot in the arm to update them for the sensibility of the 21st century young person before concluding with "socialism*** is good, actually" and be accused of not being even a little bit leftist anti-capitalism isn't necessarily pro-socialism, it can manifest in anti-socialist ways. i.e. Orwell, who was strongly against how the excesses of capitalism led to fascism while also terrified of "anti-white" civil rights protesters in the US being filthy commies.
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well yes but one notes that my sentence did not end there and in fact had more to say in a handful more clauses but: to that specific point: heard & acknowledged!
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like, of all places, i'd expect the LGBT thread to agree with my take that* Marxist theory is not sufficient and any leftism that starts & ends there in tyool 2019 is bad leftism marxism attempts to explain away queerness and the rest of the rainbow as illnesses or symptoms of the class struggle and does not primarily — or, often, at all — concern itself with our liberation, wrong-headedly claiming that economic liberation will free everyone which — yes, but that's not the whole story; my agreement with that classical marxist pseudo-strawman continues with a massive "BUT,...." and meanwhile there exist people who are happy to leave it at the "yes" for now, achieving economic & class liberation first before concerning themselves with anything else that's not sufficient. it must be both. it needs to be legion. it needs to be intersectional yes I'm aware that hella 20th century Marxists were gay as h*ck but you know what? they're old and dead and no gods no masters *ya i know it hasn't been explicitly disagreed with yet but that's the vibe that i myself read in pushing back against a creator like contrapoints being described in terms of leftism **nb im a dumb idiot so feel free to argue against me
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the heritage foundation is now importing TERFs from England https://twitter.com/CaseyExplosion/status/1088812751701581830
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juche avocado posted:*ya i know it hasn't been explicitly disagreed with yet but that's the vibe that i myself read in pushing back against a creator like contrapoints being described in terms of leftism Natalie's shtick is explaining concepts to folks that aren't leftist to begin with and giving them a base to build on more or less agree with everything else though, some other queer friends in other communities either hate tankies to death or are terrified of Marxism in general because of things such as what you described
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shut the gently caress up about youtubers, jesus christ
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ah yes let us not discuss the trans person, doing political action that benefits all of us, for whom you have a hate-on for lovely reasons
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CYBEReris posted:hi i'm bisexual and my gender is not legally recognized where i live Gendercrime is a cool gender though
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Jose posted:Gendercrime is a cool gender though Is gendercrime where you and your mates gang up and beat the poo poo out of gender, and maybe steal some of their poo poo? gently caress gender
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juche avocado posted:doing political action yeah posting dumb poo poo is activism 
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Silly Hyena posted:shut the gently caress up about youtubers, jesus christ That trans Youtuber's videos are more relevant to this thread than your posts will ever be to this forum
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Silly Hyena posted:yeah posting dumb poo poo is activism Believe it or not YouTube makes up a massive amount of media consumption for younger people. Using that platform to push a left leaning message in a way that people unfamiliar with a lot of the concepts can understand is an undeniably good thing, and quite a few steps above just posting dumb poo poo lol Totally unrelated thought I just had: a few months back my bf tried to donate blood and apparently he did not know that the effective ban on gay men donating was still a thing. It got me thinking how incredibly weird it is that that's still a thing. Like, I guess in the grand scheme of isn't a huge deal, but it's one of those things that's just so incredibly outdated that nobody wants/cares to change.
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yeah the noble science of posting "are traps gay" and dressing up like a nazi, also getting pissed when people do an antifa or refuse to work with jesse singal, cool activism
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She says in the video that the reason she called it "Are Traps Gay?" despite the offensiveness of the question is she knows that straight guys are gonna google "Are Traps Gay?" and she wants there to be results that aren't all right-wing shitheads.
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tbqh the weird personal attacks that always come out when someone criticises the Internet Content Creators seems like it's not furthering any sort of left leaning message (left leaning message meaning of course saying that capitalism is fine at its core but it's ruined by the (((elders of zion))) at the top of the pyramid), it actually seems like it's the world's dumbest celebrity worshipGripweed posted:She says in the video that the reason she called it "Are Traps Gay?" despite the offensiveness of the question is she knows that straight guys are gonna google "Are Traps Gay?" and she wants there to be results that aren't all right-wing shitheads. woulda been a whole lot more convincing if people like blanchard didn't take the videos as a vindication of their beliefs
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Gripweed posted:She says in the video that the reason she called it "Are Traps Gay?" despite the offensiveness of the question is she knows that straight guys are gonna google "Are Traps Gay?" and she wants there to be results that aren't all right-wing shitheads. The sticking point there really is that she received massive pushback months beforehand when she revealed that was gonna be the title of a video from people who were hurt by the idea she'd use a slur that affects them in the title for clicks and she went ahead with it anyway. I think she's more clumsy and ignorant than malicious but you've got to admit that's really petty.
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the *real* sticking point is that this person's a dumb know-nothing with no professional or activist experience, who only cares about using buzzwords to get more clicks and therefore more ad revenue. the more ad revenue you rake in, the more leftister you areCYBEReris posted:The sticking point there really is that she received massive pushback months beforehand when she revealed that was gonna be the title of a video from people who were hurt by the idea she'd use a slur that affects them in the title for clicks and she went ahead with it anyway. I think she's more clumsy and ignorant than malicious but you've got to admit that's really petty. lol that the big takeaway response from this was to write her ex-friend in to her videos as a Wrong And So God drat Crazy antifa purist called "tabby", playing up the trans angle to a ludicrous degree
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juche avocado posted:like, of all places, i'd expect the LGBT thread to agree with my take that* Marxist theory is not sufficient and any leftism that starts & ends there in tyool 2019 is bad leftism Marxist theory didn't end when Marx died. maybe more supporters of LGBT rights should read academic theory and watch less internet personalities talking off the top of their heads
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Speaking of the HPV vaccine - Has anyone tried getting it through insurance since the FDA approved it (Gardasil 9) for adults over 26 last fall? Wondering if insurers will refuse to cover it until the new guidance reaches the CDC website
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 I love that this loving moron is like, "Yeah, Ace Ventura is pretty transphobic," but also will invite a random transphobe to go on his show every other week. I legitimately hate this guy.
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joe rogan is an empty human. there's just nothing in there
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joe rogan is a vessel piloted by one of those tiny alien monarchists from men in black
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SunAndSpring posted:
well yeah he's an alt right gateway drug it's good and proper to hate him.
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FINALLY someone is taking on the cultural juggernaut, Ace Ventura: Pet Detective
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Red Ryder posted:FINALLY someone is taking on the cultural juggernaut, Ace Ventura: Pet Detective Jim Carrey is a noted LIBERAL
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really taking down that jim carrey fellow dozwn a peg for a lovely movie he did in thr early nineties, thanks joe ace ventura 2 did give us the rhino scene
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Silly Hyena posted:yeah posting dumb poo poo is activism I'm so sorry i tried to engage with you and your poo poo opinions in good faith you absolute idiot
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Red Ryder posted:Marxist theory didn't end when Marx died. i acknowledged it was a something of strawman, but people are unironically advocating no war but class war and somehow tankies actually exist in 2019 so, you know, it's worth pointing out that og marxism isn't enough. see as an example of the gulf: Bernie's rhetoric in 2016 versus what skull.gif pointed out to me is his campaign's platform in 2019 (I'm not saying Bernie is a Marxist im saying a similar magnitude of transformation happened, apparently) it's all intersectional now and that's good if no one critiqued him for being one-note then mb he would still be not loudly interested in forms of justice besides economic edit: also nice use of dismissive language Christ edit 2: so as to cut off any succ i extremely excitedly caucused for bernie in '16 juche avocado has issued a correction as of 21:57 on Jan 27, 2019 |
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it was transphobic tbf. but you don't gotta hand it to rogan or nothin. every dingus can be right now and then the real test is sustained accommodation and support of the oppressed.
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juche avocado posted:I'm so sorry i tried to engage with you and your poo poo opinions in good faith you absolute idiot wow what did i say earlier, toxic people
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hi I have a question that maybe someone can answer: where can I buy pride flags online that isn't from some shop on amazon selling every flag under the sun? I don't want to support some chud who's also selling nazi kek and don't tread on me garbage.
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