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Eau de MacGowan
May 12, 2009

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i think the real question we all want to ask is how much more insufferably woke would meadow be if the sopranos started in 2019

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Eau de MacGowan
May 12, 2009

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Jerusalem posted:

Do I have the timeline right, the one murder Bobby commits is down to Tony flexing and forcing him to after Bobby beats him up in a fair fight after Tony wouldn't stop making fun of Janice?

it wasn't a fair fight, tony had been shot and he slipped on a rug, so when you think about it tony won

Eau de MacGowan
May 12, 2009

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Much like looking at The Rock when he was young, it's weird looking at a man the size of Gandolfini in the pilot and thinking jesus he's small there.

Eau de MacGowan
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what works about jackie is that he's such a moron that you can't tell if he's being sincere or if he's trying to ingratiate himself to meadow to get closer to tony

meadow's also a colossal moron

everyone's a moron except for furio and charmaine

Eau de MacGowan
May 12, 2009

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you fuckin hoo-er

Eau de MacGowan
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well, actually, tony literally saves artie's life and livelihood several times in the show, so when you think about it tony's a better spouse to artie than charmaine ever was, she's just a bitch like skyler

tony even came up with the two for one coupon idea too

Eau de MacGowan
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junior pushing the pie into his old girl's face is one of the saddest moments in the series, and also hilarious

Eau de MacGowan
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Paulie definitely cared, he just had a hard time expressing it.

Eau de MacGowan
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I always thought the mob charged less of a rake / buy-in / whatever than a high-end casino too, because they know when somebody inevitably fucks up (ie. Davey) they can viciously go after them and take everything they own and make more money that way, whereas the casino has to nominally follow legal proceedings to get what they're owed

was that in the sopranos or some other mob movie I watched?

Eau de MacGowan
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I think the dream sequences in Funhouse were good, but a bad precedent for all the surreal stuff that followed like The Test Dream and the Kevin Finnerty debacle. The Sopranos is at its best when its good actors acting really good and stuff. It gets bad when they gently caress around with the artificiality of it all, whether thats Janice seeing Livia's face on the DO NOT PUSH sign or the Carmela yikes freezeframe or Silvio eating soup and then going into slowmo when the guy opposite him gets his head blown off.

Eau de MacGowan
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Jerusalem posted:

His talkshow appearances always gave that impression too. Great actor, incredibly awkward in real life.

He's a lovely perswan, oooo.

Eau de MacGowan
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Vito’s brother getting his dome caved in by the golf club is one of the most unsettling scenes i think i’ve seen.

Also artie my man, youre going out for hamburger when you’ve got filet mignon at home.

Eau de MacGowan
May 12, 2009

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sil being the 'nice' one makes the times he freaks out all the better. when the new york guy comes to satriales after the vito stuff and starts talking poo poo and sil smashes the hand vacuum over his head and then stabs the gently caress out of him repeatedly with a butcher's knife after initially laughing it off for a while is one of the most hilariously shocking moments.

edit: just rewatched its not sil that does the stabbing but still

Eau de MacGowan fucked around with this message at 09:51 on Jun 6, 2019

Eau de MacGowan
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I always thought the underwhelming aftermath was deliberate. Tony's waiting for this huge wash of guilt to hit him for killing his surrogate son... and it just doesn't. Iirc the episode ends - after him trying to either drown or spark something with a lot of excess in vegas - with him taking peyote and laughing at the rising sun saying something like "I get it" or "i did it". I always read that moment as him realising and admitting his true nature at least to himself, agreeing with melfi's ultimate conclusion that criminals cant's be cured.

Eau de MacGowan
May 12, 2009

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A glare, and the crucial nasal breathing growing slightly louder.

Eau de MacGowan
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crispix posted:

This is one of the funniest things in the whole series for me.

sil gets the best deadpan lines

later on with vito's kid acting up, he says to tony "i think he was eating cat poo poo or something" and tony says "no, he took a poo poo in the shower."

Sil says, "Oh. Glad we cleared that up."

Eau de MacGowan
May 12, 2009

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it's the absolute peak tony moment, it rules

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Bip Roberts posted:

What is the explanation on why Artie is in Tony's dream with the dead guys?

tony hosed his wife, and wants to gently caress his wife again

(per a previous post, prime rib and hamburger)

Eau de MacGowan
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how thick does a stack of bills have to be to stop a bullet? these guys are terrified of getting killed and are always having to hide stacks of cash everywhere, seems like they could kill two birds with one stone if they just lined their jackets with huge wads.

Eau de MacGowan
May 12, 2009

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Bobby loved trains, machine guns and eating, and his dad was nicknamed the terminator, he's manly as gently caress.

Eau de MacGowan
May 12, 2009

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you can't post the tin and not post any of the questions

Eau de MacGowan
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He stayed that big after the show, so I'd assume it was just Gandolfini enjoying success and the writers writing that in.

please don't enjoy success so much your heart explodes in your early fifties

Eau de MacGowan
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unfortunately he hasn't apparently inherited his dad's acting talent, he's in the deuce and he's not fantastic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUywlVBxv94

Eau de MacGowan
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the deuce is good (and so is the plot against america, hbo dropped the ball by not advertising that as a david simon show), and i suppose I am being a bit harsh on gandolfini's kid. The role is a dopey failson, so he might be acting really well as a dopey failson and not just actually be a dopey failson, I guess we'll find out when he plays tony.

Eau de MacGowan
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i'm going to ask the crucial question about the finale:

would a slowly rolling car actually have enough momentum to roll over a human skull, exploding it so violently a watching youth vomits?

Eau de MacGowan
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Bip Roberts posted:

I was looking to see if anyone explicitly knew the family was eating at the diner besides the four of them and I don't think there was anyone.

meadow's ingratiating herself to the parisis, she didn't want to see the act done, do you honestly think anyone could be so bad at parallel parking?

Eau de MacGowan
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if you paid attention, tony actually put in enough money to load up don't stop believing for forty five minutes

the members only guy had actually walked out of the diner in rage, then returned shortly after meadow

Eau de MacGowan
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Artie's worst decision in the series is deciding to cook rabbit for two people who walked in after last call. Good luck there, bro, you're going to be braising that poo poo for hours.

Eau de MacGowan
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Jerusalem posted:

Oh I've never seen that! I stopped watching Sons of Anarchy after like season 4, it got SO bad. Was the epilogue a standalone thing or just a reference?

op's making a joke. spoiler: Chiklis plays a trucker (quantifiably not Vic Mackey) who splatters the main character and his bike across the front of his truck while shouting JESUS! (the main character is also holding his hands out in the crucifix pose, embracing death to save his friends. it is a very subtle allegory.)

sons of anarchy really was the show for people who thought tony and walt and vic were wicked cool

Eau de MacGowan fucked around with this message at 08:29 on Sep 20, 2020

Eau de MacGowan
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fukken private pylie walnuts on the right there

Eau de MacGowan
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Jerusalem posted:

Tony realizing why Paulie bought the Lowenbrau is an incredible touch :allears:

I refuse to believe that in the 21st century two six packs have ever been sold for five dollars

Eau de MacGowan
May 12, 2009

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things i remember about boardwalk empire


-jimmy banged his mum
-harrow went hotline miami on the great gatsby house and died under a pier
-they fridged the hot irishman
-they hired michael k williams and then had him just sort of be there
-bobby cannavale played someone who was maybe brain damaged
-scottish = irish sure why not
-nuckys not looking for redemption?

oh

-michael shannon and shea wigham together are loving gold


that's about it

Eau de MacGowan
May 12, 2009

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What about bukyak

Eau de MacGowan
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id like to see the alternate timeline where the night of actually gets made and people start :qq:ing about how its just james gandolfini scratching his gross scabrous feet and not whacking mooks

Eau de MacGowan
May 12, 2009

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Paulie reckoning 5000 years in purgatory is no big deal randomly came to me today, had a little lol

Eau de MacGowan
May 12, 2009

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i never saw entourage, but i saw ballers, which was basically 'the rock has a problem, then he doesn't have a problem and now owns the nfl???' which i think was the same basic gist

Eau de MacGowan
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night slime posted:

He ordered a hit on a varsity athlete Junior kept praising

*slowed down epic version of pumped up kicks starts playing*

Eau de MacGowan
May 12, 2009

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sopranos cinematic universe: ginny sac versus the bmi
sopranos cinematic universe: artie smuggles his oregano seeds in from italy
sopranos cinematic universe: vitos kid reevaluates good charlotte
sopranos cinematic universe: sacre bleu, where ist mi mama???

Eau de MacGowan
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what if they just rolled with it and its look whos talking but its christopher aware hes in hell watching tony fail to catch a football

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Eau de MacGowan
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raised by wolves!!!!

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