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TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!


Zack Snyder.



He's a fairly well known motion picture director whose credits include films like Dawn of the Dead, 300, Watchmen, Sucker Punch, Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole and nothing else.

For some reason, people have a deep seeded and invested emotional interest in this man's films. That's fine, you do you. I'm not telling people what to think about Mr. Snyder, but Lord knows you have thoughts. So post them in here.

This is a safe space to yell about The Justice League all you want. Debate whether his new zombie movie will be a return to form or a massive misstep. Make mean spirited comments about Ayn Rand. Pretend that 300 isn't extremely racist! Do whatever you like, just keep it in here.

Thank you and with that I absolve myself of all responsibility for whatever happens in this hellthread. Have at it.

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Terrorist Fistbump
Jan 29, 2009


he's daddy

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!



yes.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

I like all of Snyder's movies, to some degree. Quarantine me.

RBA Starblade
Apr 27, 2008

Going Home.


Where are you going? The disease is inside you!

Majkol
Oct 17, 2016


He has only made above average to truly great movies. Pretty good batting average if you ask me.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004



Zack Snyder makes garbage low tier movies that generally are not worth watching.

Dr. S.O. Feelgood
Dec 30, 2008



Zack Snyder is in good shape.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008



Dawn of the dead slaps

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!



TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!


I said come in! posted:

Zack Snyder makes garbage low tier movies that generally are not worth watching.

they all look like a laminating machine threw up on the film print

josh04
Oct 19, 2008

oscar winning cinema enthusiast



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zA2tRl7d-s


josh04 posted:

There are good zombie films, I just think the concept as executed lends itself to stories about "authentic" humans versus an uncommunicative, primitive other who can be dealt with only via violence, and whatever framework you build on top of that to undercut it or satirise it, it's uncomfortably close to the narratives we use to make the material conditions of migrants and refugees worse.

To put it bluntly, I think zombies are too objectivist for Zack Snyder.

https://twitter.com/fevered_earth/s...6070601729?s=19

safely quarantining my terrible zack snyder opinions here in the snyderdome

Pirate Jet
May 2, 2010


What a good idea for a thread started in good faith by a helpful member of CineD. Last time we tried to cordon off discussion a loud minority would never stop complaining about to its own separate area it went really well and everyone used both appropriately, so I can see why you might think this idea would work.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

Pirate Jet posted:

What a good idea for a thread started in good faith by a helpful member of CineD. Last time we tried to cordon off discussion a loud minority would never stop complaining about to its own separate area it went really well and everyone used both appropriately, so I can see why you might think this idea would work.

I don't see a problem here, it would be really loving funny if all the idiots who bleat about quarantining Snyder chat would show up here and do their usual thing because they realize what they consider good discussion is really boring.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!


Good faith is my middle name!

Drunkboxer
Jun 30, 2007



josh04 posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zA2tRl7d-s


https://twitter.com/fevered_earth/s...6070601729?s=19

safely quarantining my terrible zack snyder opinions here in the snyderdome

That zombie movie opinion is one Iíve seen lately and I really think itís only applicable to a small minority of actual zombie movies. World War Z is the only major one I can think of. A lot are about how humans are the real monsters, or are mostly body horror, or are just pandemic disaster movies with monsters. To me, most are either looking at society or looking inward at our own fragile meat-machine bodies.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008

oscar winning cinema enthusiast



Drunkboxer posted:

That zombie movie opinion is one Iíve seen lately and I really think itís only applicable to a small minority of actual zombie movies. World War Z is the only major one I can think of. A lot are about how humans are the real monsters, or are mostly body horror, or are just pandemic disaster movies with monsters. To me, most are either looking at society or looking inward at our own fragile meat-machine bodies.

Mm, I'm happy to admit it's almost certainly informed by my lack of familiarity with the good zombie poo poo - so it's an opinion formed largely from the debris of zombie media: promotions for TV shows, movie trailers, satires and - worst of all - video games. Which is pretty unfair, but media doesn't get to choose how it's consumed.

Babysitter Super Sleuth
Apr 26, 2012

THERE'S FASCISM IN MY GIANT ROBOT ANIMES


I give this thread a month

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

No whammy, no whammy, no whammy...

It would be funny if the zombie outbreak casino heist movie ends up being his Fountainhead adaptation.

Nroo
Dec 31, 2007



I hated Man of Steel for years until I finally saw it.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

No whammy, no whammy, no whammy...

Also, I want that Gym Jones shirt.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.


I feel that this is a bad concept for a thread, and I shan't be participating. Good luck with it tho

Sucrose
Dec 9, 2009


Drunkboxer posted:

That zombie movie opinion is one Iíve seen lately and I really think itís only applicable to a small minority of actual zombie movies. World War Z is the only major one I can think of. A lot are about how humans are the real monsters, or are mostly body horror, or are just pandemic disaster movies with monsters. To me, most are either looking at society or looking inward at our own fragile meat-machine bodies.

Some of the best zombie movies simply use zombies as a plot device to create a post-apocalyptic world thatís still actively dangerous to the survivors. Iím thinking of movies like 28 Days Later.

Sir Kodiak
May 14, 2007




Yeah, Man of Steel being a sci-fi movie about an alien finding his way on Earth, drawing as much from, like, Starman as it does previous Superman works, is one of its big strengths.

Sucrose posted:

Some of the best zombie movies simply use zombies as a plot device to create a post-apocalyptic world thatís still actively dangerous to the survivors. Iím thinking of movies like 28 Days Later.

Definitely. The end of that movie is exactly what came to mind for a heist movie in a zombie apocalypse, where Jim is breaking into the manor house to rescue his companions.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!


Fun Shoe

Sir Kodiak posted:

Yeah, Man of Steel being a sci-fi movie about an alien finding his way on Earth, drawing as much from, like, Starman as it does previous Superman works, is one of its big strengths.

I love Man of Steel for that reason, I bought it on UHD recently and it's just a really fun rewatch with all kinds of different weird sci-fi things happening. Superman aside, actually a legitimately good piece of science fiction.

Sir Kodiak
May 14, 2007



Basebf555 posted:

I love Man of Steel for that reason, I bought it on UHD recently and it's just a really fun rewatch with all kinds of different weird sci-fi things happening. Superman aside, actually a legitimately good piece of science fiction.

I picked that up too and watched it a couple nights ago. Looks amazing and the Krypton stuff in particular really pops.

This thread reminds me I need to watch his owl movie, just for completeness.

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!



Iíd argue that Snyder approaching the characters without preconception is what makes his movies so interesting and also so divisive. Like take Batman. If you had never heard of Batman before and someone approached with the idea of a character that is a billionaire saddled with PTSD from witnessing the murder of husband parents, and deals with it by dressing as a monster to scare criminals, youíd think that character was a maniac. And until Batman kind of rebalances his moral center in BvS - he is.

Like one of the most fascinating aspects of that movie is how it treats Batman largely as an antagonist until the third act. You canít do something like that if youíre worried about carrying 50+ years of pop culture baggage.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

No whammy, no whammy, no whammy...





Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible

Fart City posted:

Iíd argue that Snyder approaching the characters without preconception is what makes his movies so interesting and also so divisive. Like take Batman. If you had never heard of Batman before and someone approached with the idea of a character that is a billionaire saddled with PTSD from witnessing the murder of husband parents, and deals with it by dressing as a monster to scare criminals, youíd think that character was a maniac. And until Batman kind of rebalances his moral center in BvS - he is.

Like one of the most fascinating aspects of that movie is how it treats Batman largely as an antagonist until the third act. You canít do something like that if youíre worried about carrying 50+ years of pop culture baggage.

Oh course, that brings up why didn't Supes then just stop him when Bats crashed into him? Why let him go? That only works because we, as an audience, know that Bats is really a good guy.

Martman
Nov 20, 2006

SEXY... defines my posts and my ride


Davros1 posted:

Oh course, that brings up why didn't Supes then just stop him when Bats crashed into him? Why let him go? That only works because we, as an audience, know that Bats is really a good guy.
Supes in BvS doesn't see himself as like, a fully empowered law enforcement dude. Aside from cases of people threatening his family/the entire world/etc., he's been trying to stick to doing stuff like "saving cats from trees" because he's afraid of his power and unsure of his role in the world. A big point of the movie is Supes learning that he can't keep doing that.

Sir Kodiak
May 14, 2007



Davros1 posted:

Oh course, that brings up why didn't Supes then just stop him when Bats crashed into him? Why let him go? That only works because we, as an audience, know that Bats is really a good guy.

You are asking why he didn't engage in vigilante justice against a man he opposes because of his brutal vigilante justice.

Ferrinus
Jun 19, 2003

adrift on a wind,
immaculate and unseen


Batman being the only criminal Superman spent his time apprehending was an excellent joke.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment,
I wouldn't have any appointment.


Grimey Drawer

Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

I feel that this is a bad concept for a thread, and I shan't be participating. Good luck with it tho

Zack Snyder has directed eight movies. Half of those are pretty significant to modern pop culture and genre films. He is also an executive producer on many films and has been in charge of a major studioís extended universe.

He is incredibly divisive on this forum. Every thread brings him up. There are many fans and many anti-fans for him.

I think that that justifies having a thread for the guy.

That the thread was created by someone whoíd doesnít like him seems irrelevant. Fans will still be fans, haters will hate, and there will always be an ongoing discussion between the two. And this is where they can talk about him.

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible

Sir Kodiak posted:

You are asking why he didn't engage in vigilante justice against a man he opposes because of his brutal vigilante justice.

Didn't say he should snap his neck. He could have dropped him off at the police.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.


Franchescanado posted:

That the thread was created by someone whoíd doesnít like him seems irrelevant. Fans will still be fans, haters will hate, and there will always be an ongoing discussion between the two. And this is where they can talk about him.

It's very relevant, in fact, and if you cant' see why I won't be posting in a thread marked as essentially a Quarantine Zone then that's on you.

Davros1 posted:

Didn't say he should snap his neck. He could have dropped him off at the police.

The police have a cool cartoon that basically says "Hell yes I approve of Batman!" in their lobby, which Clark saw. Might discourage him a bit.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004



Davros1 posted:

Didn't say he should snap his neck. He could have dropped him off at the police.

Should have ripped his mask off and outted him in public.

KVeezy3
Aug 18, 2005

Skinny and paid
I'm Taylor Swift


Davros1 posted:

Didn't say he should snap his neck. He could have dropped him off at the police.

The point here is that the state allows Batman to exist, because he reasserts it. This was the story Clark was trying to write in the Daily Planet. "Don't the poor buy newspapers"?"

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment,
I wouldn't have any appointment.


Grimey Drawer

Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

It's very relevant, in fact, and if you cant' see why I won't be posting in a thread marked as essentially a Quarantine Zone then that's on you.

Itís my fault I donít understand your vague logic?

You seem to insinuate this is an act of cruelty or, like, a weird form of cinematic bigotry because the thread has a funny title.

But yeah, if you donít want to talk about Snyder, no oneís gonna force your participation.


Anyway, I really like Dawn of the Dead and Iím intrigued by his return to horror. MOS is fine, but Iíve just never been a fan of him. I think Watchmen looks good, at least.

Oh and I like his choices for soundtracks.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004



KVeezy3 posted:

The point here is that the state allows Batman to exist, because he reasserts it. This was the story Clark was trying to write in the Daily Planet. "Don't the poor buy newspapers"?"

But would things be different if Gotham knew that Batman was Bruce Wayne?

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TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!


Franchescanado posted:

Itís my fault I donít understand your vague logic?

You seem to insinuate this is an act of cruelty or, like, a weird form of cinematic bigotry because the thread has a funny title.

But yeah, if you donít want to talk about Snyder, no oneís gonna force your participation.

It's my fault for thinking Something Awful is a venue for sarcastic OPs. This is a very serious forum and I apologize.

Anyway, Snyder doing a zombie film is the one thing to really make me interested in going back to him. Dawn '04 is legit excellent.

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