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TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

Welcome to the Zack Snyder thread!




This thread is for the discussion of Zack Snyder's filmography which to date is:

Dawn of the Dead
300
Watchmen
Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole
Sucker Punch
Man of Steel
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
Zack Snyder's Justice League
Army of the Dead

Produced:

300: Rise of an Empire
Suicide Squad (directed Flash cameo scene)
Wonder Woman
Aquaman
Wonder Woman 1984
The Suicide Squad
Army of Thieves
The Flash
Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom

COMING SOON:

Rebel Moon
Planet of the Dead

Somebody fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Nov 3, 2022

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Terrorist Fistbump
Jan 29, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
he's daddy

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!


yes.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.
I like all of Snyder's movies, to some degree. Quarantine me.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Where are you going? The disease is inside you!

Majkol
Oct 17, 2016
He has only made above average to truly great movies. Pretty good batting average if you ask me.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Zack Snyder makes garbage low tier movies that generally are not worth watching.

wizardofloneliness
Dec 30, 2008

Zack Snyder is in good shape.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008
Dawn of the dead slaps

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

I said come in! posted:

Zack Snyder makes garbage low tier movies that generally are not worth watching.

they all look like a laminating machine threw up on the film print

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zA2tRl7d-s


josh04 posted:

There are good zombie films, I just think the concept as executed lends itself to stories about "authentic" humans versus an uncommunicative, primitive other who can be dealt with only via violence, and whatever framework you build on top of that to undercut it or satirise it, it's uncomfortably close to the narratives we use to make the material conditions of migrants and refugees worse.

To put it bluntly, I think zombies are too objectivist for Zack Snyder.

https://twitter.com/fevered_earth/status/1001204986070601729?s=19

safely quarantining my terrible zack snyder opinions here in the snyderdome

Pirate Jet
May 2, 2010
The OP is no longer a weird salt post so no longer is this one either. The forums are a better place now that we're all super chill.

Pirate Jet fucked around with this message at 06:23 on Mar 16, 2022

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

Pirate Jet posted:

What a good idea for a thread started in good faith by a helpful member of CineD. Last time we tried to cordon off discussion a loud minority would never stop complaining about to its own separate area it went really well and everyone used both appropriately, so I can see why you might think this idea would work.

I don't see a problem here, it would be really loving funny if all the idiots who bleat about quarantining Snyder chat would show up here and do their usual thing because they realize what they consider good discussion is really boring.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

Good faith is my middle name! :)

Drunkboxer
Jun 30, 2007

That zombie movie opinion is one I’ve seen lately and I really think it’s only applicable to a small minority of actual zombie movies. World War Z is the only major one I can think of. A lot are about how humans are the real monsters, or are mostly body horror, or are just pandemic disaster movies with monsters. To me, most are either looking at society or looking inward at our own fragile meat-machine bodies.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

This title contains sponsored content.

Drunkboxer posted:

That zombie movie opinion is one I’ve seen lately and I really think it’s only applicable to a small minority of actual zombie movies. World War Z is the only major one I can think of. A lot are about how humans are the real monsters, or are mostly body horror, or are just pandemic disaster movies with monsters. To me, most are either looking at society or looking inward at our own fragile meat-machine bodies.

Mm, I'm happy to admit it's almost certainly informed by my lack of familiarity with the good zombie poo poo - so it's an opinion formed largely from the debris of zombie media: promotions for TV shows, movie trailers, satires and - worst of all - video games. Which is pretty unfair, but media doesn't get to choose how it's consumed.

Babysitter Super Sleuth
Apr 26, 2012

my posts are as bad the Current Releases review of Gone Girl

I give this thread a month

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

It would be funny if the zombie outbreak casino heist movie ends up being his Fountainhead adaptation.

Nroo
Dec 31, 2007

I hated Man of Steel for years until I finally saw it.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Also, I want that Gym Jones shirt.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.
I feel that this is a bad concept for a thread, and I shan't be participating. Good luck with it tho

Sucrose
Dec 9, 2009

Drunkboxer posted:

That zombie movie opinion is one I’ve seen lately and I really think it’s only applicable to a small minority of actual zombie movies. World War Z is the only major one I can think of. A lot are about how humans are the real monsters, or are mostly body horror, or are just pandemic disaster movies with monsters. To me, most are either looking at society or looking inward at our own fragile meat-machine bodies.

Some of the best zombie movies simply use zombies as a plot device to create a post-apocalyptic world that’s still actively dangerous to the survivors. I’m thinking of movies like 28 Days Later.

Sir Kodiak
May 14, 2007



Yeah, Man of Steel being a sci-fi movie about an alien finding his way on Earth, drawing as much from, like, Starman as it does previous Superman works, is one of its big strengths.

Sucrose posted:

Some of the best zombie movies simply use zombies as a plot device to create a post-apocalyptic world that’s still actively dangerous to the survivors. I’m thinking of movies like 28 Days Later.

Definitely. The end of that movie is exactly what came to mind for a heist movie in a zombie apocalypse, where Jim is breaking into the manor house to rescue his companions.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Sir Kodiak posted:

Yeah, Man of Steel being a sci-fi movie about an alien finding his way on Earth, drawing as much from, like, Starman as it does previous Superman works, is one of its big strengths.

I love Man of Steel for that reason, I bought it on UHD recently and it's just a really fun rewatch with all kinds of different weird sci-fi things happening. Superman aside, actually a legitimately good piece of science fiction.

Sir Kodiak
May 14, 2007


Basebf555 posted:

I love Man of Steel for that reason, I bought it on UHD recently and it's just a really fun rewatch with all kinds of different weird sci-fi things happening. Superman aside, actually a legitimately good piece of science fiction.

I picked that up too and watched it a couple nights ago. Looks amazing and the Krypton stuff in particular really pops.

This thread reminds me I need to watch his owl movie, just for completeness.

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

I’d argue that Snyder approaching the characters without preconception is what makes his movies so interesting and also so divisive. Like take Batman. If you had never heard of Batman before and someone approached with the idea of a character that is a billionaire saddled with PTSD from witnessing the murder of husband parents, and deals with it by dressing as a monster to scare criminals, you’d think that character was a maniac. And until Batman kind of rebalances his moral center in BvS - he is.

Like one of the most fascinating aspects of that movie is how it treats Batman largely as an antagonist until the third act. You can’t do something like that if you’re worried about carrying 50+ years of pop culture baggage.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004





Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



Fart City posted:

I’d argue that Snyder approaching the characters without preconception is what makes his movies so interesting and also so divisive. Like take Batman. If you had never heard of Batman before and someone approached with the idea of a character that is a billionaire saddled with PTSD from witnessing the murder of husband parents, and deals with it by dressing as a monster to scare criminals, you’d think that character was a maniac. And until Batman kind of rebalances his moral center in BvS - he is.

Like one of the most fascinating aspects of that movie is how it treats Batman largely as an antagonist until the third act. You can’t do something like that if you’re worried about carrying 50+ years of pop culture baggage.

Oh course, that brings up why didn't Supes then just stop him when Bats crashed into him? Why let him go? That only works because we, as an audience, know that Bats is really a good guy.

Martman
Nov 20, 2006

Davros1 posted:

Oh course, that brings up why didn't Supes then just stop him when Bats crashed into him? Why let him go? That only works because we, as an audience, know that Bats is really a good guy.
Supes in BvS doesn't see himself as like, a fully empowered law enforcement dude. Aside from cases of people threatening his family/the entire world/etc., he's been trying to stick to doing stuff like "saving cats from trees" because he's afraid of his power and unsure of his role in the world. A big point of the movie is Supes learning that he can't keep doing that.

Sir Kodiak
May 14, 2007


Davros1 posted:

Oh course, that brings up why didn't Supes then just stop him when Bats crashed into him? Why let him go? That only works because we, as an audience, know that Bats is really a good guy.

You are asking why he didn't engage in vigilante justice against a man he opposes because of his brutal vigilante justice.

Ferrinus
Jun 19, 2003

i'm finding this quite easy, i guess in part because i'm a fast type but also because i have a coherent mental model of the world
Batman being the only criminal Superman spent his time apprehending was an excellent joke.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

I feel that this is a bad concept for a thread, and I shan't be participating. Good luck with it tho

Zack Snyder has directed eight movies. Half of those are pretty significant to modern pop culture and genre films. He is also an executive producer on many films and has been in charge of a major studio’s extended universe.

He is incredibly divisive on this forum. Every thread brings him up. There are many fans and many anti-fans for him.

I think that that justifies having a thread for the guy.

That the thread was created by someone who’d doesn’t like him seems irrelevant. Fans will still be fans, haters will hate, and there will always be an ongoing discussion between the two. And this is where they can talk about him.

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



Sir Kodiak posted:

You are asking why he didn't engage in vigilante justice against a man he opposes because of his brutal vigilante justice.

Didn't say he should snap his neck. He could have dropped him off at the police.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.

Franchescanado posted:

That the thread was created by someone who’d doesn’t like him seems irrelevant. Fans will still be fans, haters will hate, and there will always be an ongoing discussion between the two. And this is where they can talk about him.

It's very relevant, in fact, and if you cant' see why I won't be posting in a thread marked as essentially a Quarantine Zone then that's on you.

Davros1 posted:

Didn't say he should snap his neck. He could have dropped him off at the police.

The police have a cool cartoon that basically says "Hell yes I approve of Batman!" in their lobby, which Clark saw. Might discourage him a bit.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Davros1 posted:

Didn't say he should snap his neck. He could have dropped him off at the police.

Should have ripped his mask off and outted him in public.

KVeezy3
Aug 18, 2005

Airport Music for Black Folk

Davros1 posted:

Didn't say he should snap his neck. He could have dropped him off at the police.

The point here is that the state allows Batman to exist, because he reasserts it. This was the story Clark was trying to write in the Daily Planet. "Don't the poor buy newspapers"?"

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

It's very relevant, in fact, and if you cant' see why I won't be posting in a thread marked as essentially a Quarantine Zone then that's on you.

It’s my fault I don’t understand your vague logic?

You seem to insinuate this is an act of cruelty or, like, a weird form of cinematic bigotry because the thread has a funny title.

But yeah, if you don’t want to talk about Snyder, no one’s gonna force your participation.


Anyway, I really like Dawn of the Dead and I’m intrigued by his return to horror. MOS is fine, but I’ve just never been a fan of him. I think Watchmen looks good, at least.

Oh and I like his choices for soundtracks.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

KVeezy3 posted:

The point here is that the state allows Batman to exist, because he reasserts it. This was the story Clark was trying to write in the Daily Planet. "Don't the poor buy newspapers"?"

But would things be different if Gotham knew that Batman was Bruce Wayne?

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TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

Franchescanado posted:

It’s my fault I don’t understand your vague logic?

You seem to insinuate this is an act of cruelty or, like, a weird form of cinematic bigotry because the thread has a funny title.

But yeah, if you don’t want to talk about Snyder, no one’s gonna force your participation.

It's my fault for thinking Something Awful is a venue for sarcastic OPs. This is a very serious forum and I apologize.

Anyway, Snyder doing a zombie film is the one thing to really make me interested in going back to him. Dawn '04 is legit excellent.

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