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Ellis video in general just makes me laugh because if anything YouTube is literally just the otherside of the coin of the same problems Twitter has. Its an inherently narcissistic format of pop academia as entertainment that breeds cults of personalities adopting authoritative taste-making. To me Ive always valued art analysis as an exploration, not a dictation. A lot of that video essay poo poo veers into that area and it really bothers me. I also just truly cannot stand the editing style in general of these types of videos. The choppy one sentences cuts, the smash cuts to clips of movies/TV for punchlines, the corny fake moments of epiphany, the forced emotional reactions(*sigh puts head in hands*). I can only tolerate so much of it before having to stop. Its torture. The irony being so much time is wasted in this stuff for style over substance to keep the kiddies attention. One of my previous clients was a pop musician and I had to edit videos like this for her and dear god it sucked. And for the record I do like some of Ellis content(her TF and Hobbit series are great!) even if Im annoyed by the formatting and I think theres plenty of good video essays on youtube. I just also tink in general theres so much disingenuous bullshit permeating throughout that world so disconnected from the reality of the industries they spend their lives consuming the products of. Its bizzare. AccountSupervisor fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Apr 18, 2021 |
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Some of Ellis' mannerisms were picked up from Channel Awesome (which in turn got them from rotely copying The Angry Video Game Nerd), which was/is probably the most toxic influence on video essays, luckily most people have moved on from "make faces and scream at cartoons" and "ten minute long unfunny skits". I don't think there's any more narcissism in video essays beyond what's already inherent to opting to both direct and star in your own series, personally. There's certainly incorrect opinions & assumptions but thats true of every critic in every medium.
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Ellis's hobbit series IS great; as an example of the general limitations of the most popular nerd critics - there's some genuinely funny jokes and important observations of the effects of capitalist industry, but only maybe 15 minutes out of 3+ hours of actual analysis of the movies themselves - and most of that is juxtaposition of scenes from a Hobbit with scenes from a Lotr with a completely unexplained statement "this one has tension and this one doesn't" the end For someone who wants validation it seems to work, but if you're like me and agree with the thesis "the hobbit movies are uneven with both great and awful stuff" and are looking for a film critic to actually explore that, it's a huge waste of time imo
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I'm not exactly a deft purveyor of film video essays, but probably the only one hasn't made me gag was josh04's excellent treatise on Suicide Squad, which also economically functions as a critique on the 'film video essay' culture as a whole. I'm holding out hope for The Ayer Cut on the off chance we get a part 2 to that essay.
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K.waste is fantastic, tho his Devotional series was no longer up last time I checked  His podcast series with his pops is good, but not quite on the same level. A few pages back someone linked Gwendolyn Jae Stone's takedown of the Snyder=fascist meme, I've only watched the first part so far but the thoroughness of it is great!
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KVeezy3 posted:I'm not exactly a deft purveyor of film video essays, but probably the only one hasn't made me gag was josh04's excellent treatise on Suicide Squad, which also economically functions as a critique on the 'film video essay' culture as a whole. Link plz
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The Suicide Squad video? Right here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhvRFplhQ7U He also did a good video about Man Of Steel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zA2tRl7d-s
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Was just rousing myself to post it, but thanks as ever for kind words + recommendations.
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Blood Boils posted:A few pages back someone linked Gwendolyn Jae Stone's takedown of the Snyder=fascist meme, I've only watched the first part so far but the thoroughness of it is great! It's because part 2 is still "coming soon" 
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:There’s obviously a lot of angles you can take, because there’s just so much to unpack. From what I understand, the body-fascist claim extends beyond 300, which is where it overtly becomes analogous to, not just online rhetoric, but also the real-world labeling of the politically repugnant as fascist. I’m wary when it happens, as it’s often done with no regard for the specific historical context of classical fascism to deleterious effect, like when the oligarchic order of the U.S. sanctimoniously united against Trump, and successfully quelled a left-uprising in the process. I certainly agree with your assertion that we should be specific in our critique, and that for something to be body-fascist it must be more than bodies in-and-of themselves; just like a society’s military having stringent fitness requirements isn’t sufficient in-and-of-itself, or eugenics. There is the immaculate display of our heroes’ bodies contrasted with their grotesque & monstrous enemies, but then the Spartans are defending themselves from imperialism. For the most part, I’m uncertain how substantially a society can be deemed fascist absented from modern economic systems. Of course, 300 the film is an ahistorical work of our modern economic systems, so I'm open to the possibility. KVeezy3 fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Apr 20, 2021 |
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https://twitter.com/ray8fisher/status/1384644834682617859?s=19
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Hey I'll have you know that Warner Bros are very committed to racial equity! Geoff Johns' ex-wife is black!
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KVeezy3 posted:For the most part, I’m uncertain how substantially a society can be deemed fascist absented from modern economic systems. Of course, 300 the film is an ahistorical work of our modern economic systems, so I'm open to the possibility. Right; it goes back to earlier observations that racism as we understand it today did not exist before the slave trade. That, and the observation that "Dilios" is a composite character who mentions things from hundreds of years after Leonidas' death (e.g. the month of August, named after Augustus). Nothing can be concretely pinned down. This is all accounted for in Snyder's own stance that 300 depicts an alien world, but specifically an exploration of a fantasy world generated by a speculated oral history outside and beyond the written historical record. In other words: what rumors might have been circulating among the Spartans themselves? What nonsense might they have imagined? And what has been imagined about them, in the years subsequent? And, as I've noted here and elsewhere, the difference between fantasy and sci-fi is when we ask questions about how things actually work. Going to a more concrete example, we can really go in and break down the Mae Fish claim that the zombies in Dawn of the Dead are a product of gay sex (and premarital sex, and abortion). As context, evangelists like Pat Robertson infamously claimed 9/11 was God's punishment for similar reasons. But what did Robertson actually mean by that? I mean, was he claiming 'Jesus took the wheel' and personally guided the planes into the towers? No, of course not. What Robertson was claiming is that the attack of the World Trade Center was allowed to happen because of a general "permissiveness". What he argues is simply that America needed a different society, modeled around masculine principles of hardcore jingoistic militarism or whatever. When Robertson evokes God, it is to say that the universe itself is structured in such a way that a fascist society is objectively best - the insidious jew will just 'naturally' overrun your nation unless you take 'natural' steps to prevent that (which conveniently include controlling women's bodies and whatnot). This, in his view, could have prevented the attacks. So, as we've seen with some other people ITT, Mae Fish is actually agreeing with Robertson: viewing Dawn Of The Dead, she concludes that the only possible solution to the "zombie problem" is brutal fascism. She cannot imagine an alternative. Fascism is just objectively correct in this scenario. Of course, she tries to shunt this belief onto the figure of "Snyder", but she nonetheless sees no possible way of critiquing this view. The zombies simply 'are' diseased foreigners, to her, and they simply need to be eliminated. It's an immersion into total ideological fantasy - but pure ideology remains impossible. She could have done better. lol ooof
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Im glad Ray Fisher is a good actor but it sucks I gotta hope he has a career
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Mortal Kombat CineD Discord stream tomorrow night at 9PM central btw. I will host a scener room as well.
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I'm so ready for MK to punch me in the balls and rip out my spine.
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one of my friends worked on the new MK movie he saw it and told me its the worst movie he's ever seen and is embarrassed his name is in the credits should be a fun time!
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BB2K posted:one of my friends worked on the new MK movie The best endorsement tbh.
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BB2K posted:one of my friends worked on the new MK movie nah. I have seen it and it’s perfectly acceptable movie, nevermind the best videogame movie ever. It lacks open fractures tho.
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Maybe the friend actually worked on MK: Annihilation and then fell in to a time warp
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Martman posted:Maybe the friend actually worked on MK: Annihilation and then fell in to a time warp Or they worked on a bunch of Shawshank Redemptions before they worked on MK.
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Grendels Dad posted:Or they worked on a bunch of Shawshank Redemptions before they worked on MK. Or this is their first movie and they just have a dumb name.
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Maybe they only worked on the earth scenes, because they are indeed the worst. Everything else is GoaT status. Honestly it was too short, missed out on some of the characters fighting.
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First half of MK is weak, back half is so much fun.
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The movie related pun I'm flogging is Thor 2 with actual heart. There's a literal point in the movie where it stops and yells you what kind of movie it's going to be, and it's beautiful and everything video game movies can and should be. bushisms.txt fucked around with this message at 10:16 on Apr 23, 2021 |
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Shanty posted:Or this is their first movie and they just have a dumb name. quite the opposite, his last name is literally 'Smart' find him in the credits! I'll have to check it out for myself, just found it a funny lil anecdote.
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I have a feeling that making a biggish movie is often a little like that parable of the three blind men trying to describe an elephant.
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BB2K posted:quite the opposite, his last name is literally 'Smart' Derek?!!?
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bushisms.txt posted:The movie related pun I'm flogging is Thor 2 with actual heart. So how does it compare to the current gold standard of video game adaptations, Super Mario Bros.?
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Vintersorg posted:Derek?!!?
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Agent Rush posted:So how does it compare to the current gold standard of video game adaptations, Super Mario Bros.? It's the new standard. Like the earth stuff and corporate mandated OC are less palatable and worse than Super Mario Bros in every meaning of that phrase. But the other half of the movie that's just concerned with being rad loving rules. There's a couple really iconic moments and lines in this movie. My main concern was did I feel similar to as when I was a kid, and the answer is no I felt better because you can see the love of the franchise as a whole. Slight spoilers but another fight "subtlly" rolls through the multiple lore based versions of a certain character up to deadly alliance. And that wasn't called out or remarked on, it was a beautiful thing that only mains and diehards of that character would understand and it works in the movie without feeling shoehorned. I made a drinking game for anyone that wants to really enjoy their time. Spoilers for those who don't want to know even the basics  If they had actually gone full on ham and cheese, we'd be talking untouchable goat status, but sonic 2 is gonna have unleashed Jim Carrey as punished robotnik. I don't have any of the recent games, but would probably get one if they did skins with the actors for VA. Legit some of the best designs in the franchise. The one you know would get typical nerds mad is the best too. bushisms.txt fucked around with this message at 03:01 on Apr 24, 2021 |
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The Snyder Cut is finally on Google Play, at least for me in Malaysia.
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https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/dwayne-johnson-reportedly-told-team-henry-cavill-snyderverse/amp/ Don’t know what kind of bs this is but supposedly Rock wants Snyderverse for his Black Adam movie and wants Henry Cavill.
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Definitely don't trust that site about anything.
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Would be neat, though. However they'd have to shoot in IMAX to capture the amount of manflesh in each frame those two are in. Regular aspect ratios wouldn't be sufficient!
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So Black Adam is a movie about the Shazam villain, but it isn't Shazam 2? There's a whole separate Shazam 2 movie? Wtf
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2house2fly posted:So Black Adam is a movie about the Shazam villain, but it isn't Shazam 2? There's a whole separate Shazam 2 movie? Wtf Black Adam became an antihero in the DCU. Think of it like Venom. He’s got his own substance/lore to stand alone and I’m not sure how it would work with the tone set in Shazam to have a boy fight a Middle East dictator who is also an ancient super power. Even Black Adam in the books is often pulled into cosmic level events and not necessarily to play off of Billy. He’s also basically Namor.
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