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So, uh, how reliable is this person? https://twitter.com/GraceRandolph/status/1264354567678033921?s=20
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Randolph? Not at all. She’s famous for poo poo-stirring and her leaks are almost always false. Check out her “leaked spoilers” for Birds of Prey.
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teagone posted:"Dozens" lmao. Ahh, that's great. The quotation marks are what gets me. Who are they quoting? edit: Also, it's a front page story of a huge disaster that is only about the thing that's relevant to your city. Easily one of the worst casualties of the theatrical cut was all the other gags like from the football game and police station about Gotham City just being an abattoir of city pride chuds. K. Waste fucked around with this message at 05:28 on May 24, 2020 |
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I can't imagine a JL2 any time soon but I can see WB considering Man of Steel II. Of course Snyder would have to want to do it.
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It'd be worth it just to see twitter meltdown. Biggest pandemic in modern history? Parts of the world on fire? Crimes against humanity happening against Palestinians? Democratic party destroying electorialism to prop up a senile, racist rapist against a senile, racist rapist? Nah. But Zack Snyder getting to direct another Superman film? This truly is the worst timeline and the worst thing to happen in 2020.
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If MoS2 happens, it'll likely come out in 2022, a solid decade after the first. That would be so weird.
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Detective No. 27 posted:If MoS2 happens, it'll likely come out in 2022, a solid decade after the first. That would be so weird. Imagine the beard Cavill could have grown in that time.
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Dreqqus posted:I think the WB execs ultimately got what they wanted out of the Whedon cut. Being out of touch and all, they didn't realize that DCEU fans didn't want a bad Marvel movie, that general movie goers don't want bad movies, and that a lot of them were already turned off by the first two movies and course correcting at number 3 is probably too late. Way too many people at the top actually do give a poo poo about comment and tweets on social media. Both from fans but also reviewers. They want to be praised everywhere constantly at all times like the marvel movies are.
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May 24, 2020 07:39
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i hope this does well enough to get them to make a Man of Steel 2 just because Henry Cavill is a very handsome man who looks great in the role
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All these big nerd franchises get a lot of negative feedback. Ghostbusters ‘16, new Star Trek, Disney Star Wars , DC. The only aberration is the MCU.
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sponges posted:All these big nerd franchises get a lot of negative feedback. Ghostbusters ‘16, new Star Trek, Disney Star Wars , DC. part of it is that all of those things you mention are reboots or sequels or whatever to culturally beloved movies that people already went in having expectations of what they're 'supposed' to be (not that that means they're all equally as misunderstood as snyder's DC films, disney star wars deserves all of the negative feedback it gets and then some) it really ended up being a boon to the MCU that only comic book readers cared about iron man or captain america or so on prior to the movies
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Snowman_McK posted:I remember during one argument here i went through the battle of new york scene by scene and, even in scenes with massive explosions, not a single bystander dies. On the flipside, my favorite two things in Avengers are that the heroes deliberately blow up dozens of buildings, onscreen, and the sequels confirm hundreds of civilian deaths by friendly fire. (One of Iron Man’s favorite tactics is to smash his explosive enemies into the nearest building.) It’s not that Avengers doesn’t show anyone dying; very few people are actually shown at the exact moment of death in Man Of Steel either. What it shows are just generically spectacular gasoline-fireball-explosions that we cut away from, with no toppling buildings or clouds of dust. Although both films obviously use digital effects, Avengers’ explosions evoke a videogame without destructible environments, where you can fire a rocket launcher at a house and nothing will happen. This is partly why, although the imagery is of Clark embracing Lois in an empty crater, some people freak out like “that dust is made out of humans!!!” Of course, what they actually mean is that Man Of Steel’s humans are made of dust: they have a material existence and are not just spectral entities. Also, when Iron Man blows up a building full of civilians, he is always presented as in control. He blows up the buildings deliberately, and with absolute confidence. If he feels good about it, it must have been a good thing to do. His (lack of) a reaction tells the audience that it’s okay to enjoy this. Cut from an explosion to a relieved expression. It’s the Kuleshov effect. There’s a scene where where the alien mummies are about to toss a grenade into a crowd of people for no reason (why are they malicious?). Steve Rogers jumps in and blows them up with their own alien grenade, getting launched out a window in the process. Hooray, he won! But the alien grenade, with unknown explosive force, just detonated metres away from the crowd. So here’s a big point: Man Of Steel’s city isn’t attacked by a swarm of drone-people, so Superman doesn’t get any ‘kills’ to ‘even the score’. SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 16:29 on May 24, 2020 |
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Across two movies, Snyder's Superman basically killed one guy twice.
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Man of Steel and BvS also have the Metropolis fight's aftermath explicitly styled after 9/11, and natural disasters. You do see people very obviously getting crushed to death barely offscreen by the gravity generator, too.
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I wonder how many Cavill mustache shots are going to be in this cut. Also I guess people are protesting this because culture wars?
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teagone posted:If I had a chance to kiss Lol I never noticed that!
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Shaocaholica posted:Also I guess people are protesting this because culture wars?
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Shaocaholica posted:I wonder how many Cavill mustache shots are going to be in this cut. They're annoyed that this grassroots movement that actually did do good things was able to get the attention of execs because in their minds its just a community of toxic people or whatever.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuW21muWKeg Haven't watched yet, but I'm assuming there's some goodies in this discussion  I also saw a clip of Ray Fisher getting super emotional when he was thanking the fans and the Snyders the day of the announcement and it was just so much  Can't wait to his arc in the film (or series!) fully realized.
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I still think about the logical loops for feeling that way. This was a response from a twitter thread I posted several pages ago: https://twitter.com/Fkeefeiv/status/1263472849945333760 This response to me pointing out generalizations are bad is so bafflingly bad. I used the whole "Bernie Bro" narrative and how it was used as a sledgehammer against an entire grassroot movement to discredit it as angry white dudes who were exactly like Trump supporters. The people who did this did not care one bit about online harassment or toxic fandoms in the same way that these people don't care about #MeToo once it became inconvenient. It's extremely infuriating that these liberal dipshits do this. Those political movements are far more important than the Snyder cut stuff but the tactics at discrediting them are exactly the same. And what's worse is that sometimes you see these people complaining about the establishment doing this poo poo to Bernie supporters just turn around and do it to bad man me no like fans for the audacity to having different opinions/tastes than them when it comes to a punchyman film whose main competition is from an all-consuming engine putting out production-line, albeit fairly entertaining while watching, mediocrity. Jimbot fucked around with this message at 19:09 on May 24, 2020 |
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Detective No. 27 posted:If MoS2 happens, it'll likely come out in 2022, a solid decade after the first. That would be so weird. I wonder what the longest gap is between a film and a direct sequel. Return to Oz was 46 years after Wizard '39.
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The whole "write a think piece declaring a fandom as toxic because a neoliberal white woman can't handle twitter" has always felt like a tactic to make LGBT and POC ashamed to like what they like.
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Roth posted:The whole "write a think piece declaring a fandom as toxic because a neoliberal white woman can't handle twitter" has always felt like a tactic to make LGBT and POC ashamed to like what they like. That's pretty much what LGBTQ+ and PoC Snyder fans say every time some dumb hot take lands on the net. It's usually handwaved away because folks in that community only matter when it's advantageous to have their (political) support.
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McSpanky posted:I wonder what the longest gap is between a film and a direct sequel. Return to Oz was 46 years after Wizard '39. I dunno if that counts since it's different studios and no returning actors, as well as it being public domain and there being other adaptations in between. I remember The Odd Couple 1 and 2 had the longest gap for a while but I'm sure something has overtaken it by now.
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The Best Man (1999) to The Best Man Holiday (2013)
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teagone posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuW21muWKeg
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Mr. Apollo posted:I don’t think any new is disclosed in here. It’s mainly Ray talking about his experience working with Snyder, the crew, and the cast and how he thinks of them as family (especially the Snyders). Zack comes in for about 10 minutes and they talk about the excitement around the project. Basically it just reaffirms my belief that Ray is a super nice guy. Ahh. I'm about 20 minutes in, and Ray Fisher is just dropping truth bombs about fandoms and whatnot.
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teagone posted:Ahh. I'm about 20 minutes in, and Ray Fisher is just dropping truth bombs about fandoms and whatnot.
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There was 15.5 years between Bad Boys 2 & 3 although technically only Smith and Lawrence came back, Bay only had a small involvement. About 35 years between Blade Runner and 2049, Ford was back but Scott wasn't really. Though that one was probably held up by the confusing rights situation. 20 years between Independence Days.
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Detective No. 27 posted:I dunno if that counts since it's different studios and no returning actors, as well as it being public domain and there being other adaptations in between. How about Top Gun (1986) and Top Gun: Maverick (2020)
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Top Gun Maverick will probably slide to 2021 at this point.
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Please don’t take this from me. I have nothing left.
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As far as retaining much of the original team, Trainspotting and its sequel has a 21 year gap.
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How about Wall Street and Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps: 23 years. e: the new Bill & Ted has to be up there. Necrothatcher fucked around with this message at 22:21 on May 24, 2020 |
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There was some movie with Jennifer Aniston and Vince Vaughn in the 90s that was gonna be a sequel to The Graduate but then Anne Bancroft died so they rewrote it.
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Mad Max and Fury Road Birds and Birds II This Night I will possess your Corpse and Embodiment of Evil Mary Poppins and Mary Poppins Returns Fantasia and Fantasia II: 59 years Bambi and Bambi II: 63 years
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Someone should do NosferaTWO.
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Birds II doesn't exist
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