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pospysyl posted:In BvS there's a scene where Superman is in the middle of a horrible disaster. In the Ultimate Edition he sticks around and helps the EMTs rescue people. In the theatrical version he runs away. There's a news broadcast shortly after which has a line about how he was helping people, so they presumably cut the scene of him actually helping people because they figured they didn't 100% need it
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 01:10 |
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euphronius posted:Not enough people have seen man of steel so we started with that again Excellent choice
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 01:48 |
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euphronius posted:Not enough people have seen man of steel so we started with that again
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 01:51 |
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Detective No. 27 posted:Snyder probably has first print issues of Watchmen that he bought while most of his youtube critics were in diapers. I bought mine off my pops
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 03:52 |
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euphronius posted:What BVS version for the first time ? Sorry. I got people interested in watching it . K waste cut Or go with your gut based on what you know of their sensibilities/tastes Tell them the differences - theatrical is more ambiguous and dream like, plus shorter (and thus better ) and ultimate is way longer and more certain and many of the added scenes are great but are also redundant
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 04:07 |
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cargohills posted:"There's a televangelist who says some crazy stuff on the TV. Because we've already decided the director is a Christian extremist fascist Randian, the televangelist must be right." The weird thing is, watching that footage is that character's turning point and he becomes good and helpful after that.
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 04:13 |
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Chairman Capone posted:I feel like this never got mentioned until the Maggie Mae Fish video and now it's a bedrock claim about the man by his haters. *Helen Lovejoy voice* many characters in Quetin Tarantino's films are bigots and felons, therefore
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 04:30 |
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Blood Boils posted:K waste cut At this point, I think scenes hammering home the points are useful because some folks attention span is non-existant
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 04:36 |
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WB: Zack Snyder's Justice League is a non-canon cul-de-sac. Also WB: We have to cancel Ava DeVernay's movie because they were in Zack Snyder's Justice League.
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 04:54 |
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I like the Ultimate Cut because it has that Gotham vs. Metropolis football game footage. Unironically love when a movie bluntly hammers it home.
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 05:16 |
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If the Ultimate Cut (aka what ZS actually wanted) had been released in theaters, BvS would have cracked a billion easy and WB wouldn't have had to panic-gently caress itself out of the golden goose. "Cut all the connecting tissue out so we can jam in an extra showing a day," is one of the worst calls any studio has ever made about any movie, ever. And then they were going to do the exact same thing to JL. See, 5 showings a day with 5 people each due to poo poo word-of-mouth is MUCH better than 4 showings with 100+ people each. That's 20% more showings! That means 20% more profits! Right?
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 10:17 |
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JonathonSpectre posted:If the Ultimate Cut (aka what ZS actually wanted) had been released in theaters, BvS would have cracked a billion easy and WB wouldn't have had to panic-gently caress itself out of the golden goose. No because some people on the internet said it was bad and not like the good capeshit movies they liked and that's not ok! Homogized entertainment slurry for all god drat it!
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 14:51 |
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The bizarre thing is a lot of the really early reviews and reactions were stuff about the pacing being all jacked up, things being confusing (e.g. "why did people think Superman killed people with a gun? lol") and the human element and humor being absent...all poo poo that the Ultimate Edition fixed and got praised for once it was released. You also had one off memes like "Marthaaa!" and "Batman kills people!" but it wasn't until the dust really settled that the narrative became about how it should've emulated an MCU film, that that's the only way you could possibly do a team up, and Justice League would need more color and joakes to work. And of course that narrative is what WB listened to, not "if you hadn't gutted all the humor and connective tissue this movie would have been a success" but literally "you need the Avengers guy to make it Avengers: Age of Ultron, part 2: Justice League, part 1". And remember, there were reports of executives thinking that Whedon saved the movie, and being absolutely baffled by the immediate reaction to the released movie. Like I legitimately picture these suits sending in their assistants with a notepad and having them tally jokes: "Oh wow, that many jokes!? And you say it was 'extremely colorful'? Wow, we did it! People are gonna love this!"
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 15:23 |
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Stop trying to make "cape poo poo" a thing, it just sounds lame
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 15:54 |
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Guy A. Person posted:Like I legitimately picture these suits sending in their assistants with a notepad and having them tally jokes: "Oh wow, that many jokes!? And you say it was 'extremely colorful'? Wow, we did it! People are gonna love this!" I think the entirety of the DC movies are like this. LIke a common complaint of Superman Returns is that people wanted to see Superman punch something. And when we got Man of Steel, there was no shortage of punching, and people complained about that. Maybe the suits should stop listening to the "fandom."
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 15:55 |
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As boring as BvS was, it wasn't Superman Returns boring
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 15:56 |
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They were right about superman returns though, all Superman did in that one was pick heavy things up. BORING
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 15:56 |
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RBA Starblade posted:Stop trying to make "cape poo poo" a thing, it just sounds lame I mean, what do you think happens when you try to go to the bathroom in those things
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 16:06 |
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RBA Starblade posted:As boring as BvS was, it wasn't Superman Returns boring
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 16:21 |
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Halloween Jack posted:poo poo, man, we can't even enjoy that Kevin Spacey meme anymore. An extremely cursed tee-up, right here.
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 16:28 |
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RBA Starblade posted:Stop trying to make "cape poo poo" a thing, it just sounds lame I'll call these whatever I please and "Capeshit" fits perfectly. Sorry you hate fun
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 16:55 |
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joylessdivision posted:I'll call these whatever I please and "Capeshit" fits perfectly. Sorry you hate fun
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 17:08 |
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joylessdivision posted:I'll call these whatever I please and "Capeshit" fits perfectly. Sorry you hate fun Extremely good post/name combo here josh04 posted:An extremely cursed tee-up, right here. Lemme tell you, it took all my willpower not to do it
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 17:25 |
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Guy A. Person posted:I mean, what do you think happens when you try to go to the bathroom in those things You're supposed to roll it up around your waist noob
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 17:38 |
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I wonder if Batman has ever been jumped by some thugs while he was peeing in an alley.
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 17:41 |
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Blood Boils posted:You're supposed to roll it up around your waist noob I'm just saying, you've been crime fighting all day in a heavy rubber suit, you're beat up and exhausted, your track record for cape hygiene is going to suffer at some point
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 17:46 |
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In this thread we do not kinkshame.
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 18:16 |
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RBA Starblade posted:Stop trying to make "cape poo poo" a thing, it just sounds lame Cape poo poo is an apt descriptor of the genre though. All films within the genre are all varying degrees of poo poo, e.g., Snyder makes some good rear end poo poo imo, Marvel makes some dog poo poo, but also some ok poo poo. Sony has made some really bad poo poo, but some really good rear end poo poo like Spider-Verse. See how well it works? The "cape" prefix is meant to clarify the genre is about superheroes, you see. And then the "poo poo" suffix is meant to represent the level of quality in whatever way you personally see fit, i.e., poo poo can mean good, poo poo can mean bad, poo poo can mean mediocre, etc.
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 18:35 |
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McCloud posted:Extremely good post/name combo here
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 18:44 |
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Halloween Jack posted:In this thread we do not kinkshame. Batman probably shouldn't mix business with pleasure if that's his "cup of tea."
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 18:52 |
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Tell that to Catwoman's...no. I'll stop.
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 18:56 |
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RBA Starblade posted:Stop trying to make "cape poo poo" a thing, it just sounds lame hopepunk for cape poo poo friendo
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 18:57 |
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Who's to blame for all this capeshit? That's right, Beau shitwhistling Brummell
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 18:59 |
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Hopepunk reminds me of an interview with Grant Morrison, sometime around while he was doing Final Crisis, talking about negativity and cynicism and he asked "Why should it be so loving punk rock to think things can turn out alright?" Also capeshit is whatever, I just call them superpants.
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 20:16 |
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MacheteZombie posted:hopepunk for cape poo poo friendo No stop it
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 21:27 |
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RBA Starblade posted:No Gonna hopepunk you so hard with my cape poo poo
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 21:44 |
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Does Darkman count as capeshit? It’s a big dirty overcoat but looks cool when swinging from a helicopter.
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 23:05 |
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Once we start insisting on our own jargon we'll be well into cult territory. And cults are great! Everyone (who's in one) loves them. I definitely started getting weirded out by C-SPAM once too many posts started revolving around people accusing everyone of being "succ" or "crack-pinging" e: also "capeshit" sounds too much like "apeshit" so it seems kind of angry
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# ? Apr 3, 2021 01:26 |
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roffels posted:I think the entirety of the DC movies are like this. *batman begins comes out, showing the fights like a horror film* "we want to see the fights clearly" *dark knight rises does that, revealing how silly it all looks* "not like that."
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# ? Apr 3, 2021 01:36 |
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But TDKRs fights were awful because they all hinged on someone deus ex machina'ing from off screen. Married with Nolan's fight choreography(aggressive dance) it comes off as pitiful. He didn't even put emphasis on the backbreaker.
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