Grendels Dad posted:

I like Zack Snyder movies.

Cease to Hope posted:

Clark doesn't struggle with how to help people in the movie I saw. He always does exactly what is necessary to save everyone he can in every scene, except for the tornado, where he doesn't go back in for no clear reason despite the fact that he obviously could at little risk.

Cease to Hope posted:

This is an argument that Clark struggles with inaction, not the argument other people were making about about how Clark struggles with how to help people.

However, the problem with inaction struggle theories is not this scene, but the fact that we already know Clark has rejected inaction, from the beginning of the movie. He never acts fearfully and we never get the feeling that he has anything to fear.

His father's argument isn't very effective to me. I don't get a good idea of what it is he's afraid of. I can see how you'd take that Clark's inactions reflects his father's fear, but what that fear is seems underdeveloped, and is also noticeably undermined the by the fact that we already know Clark can (and will!) save people without being found because he already has, repeatedly, in this movie.

ruddiger posted:

Fart City posted:

Why is it that the people who claim MoS’ portrayal of Superman is ill-conceived and tainted by the personality of the director never seem to have anything to say about Superman Returns, which features a stalking deadbeat dad Superman who abandons earth for like five years, and is directed by Bryan loving Singer.

Waffles Inc. posted:

Based on how his adaptations of Watchmen and 300 worked out, how about--bear with me here--we wait until the movie is out and people watch it before deciding what the politics of the film are or whether or not it's good

It's possible to like a movie and dislike its source material

DC Murderverse posted:

It got missed because other quotes got more headlines but Jackie Earle Haley said something during the Watchmen Q&A on this topic, basically comparing your average superhero movie to your average police movie/drama and saying how funny it is that heroes get harangued, both within the context of the show and outside of it, to make sure they're never using lethal force, meanwhile cops (IRL and in shows) are shooting anything that moves and remaining popular among the larger viewing audience.

Equeen posted:

There’s an io9 article spreading around on Twitter, with the “wake the gently caress up” quote as a headline, and people are getting pressed lol. Why is it so important for Batman not to kill, but super similar characters can get away a massive body count?

Mr. Apollo posted:

Isn't that the guy who said "no one noticed the major character who died in Suicide Squad' and then when everyone asked if he meant Diablo he just left the thread?

Mr. Apollo posted:

oh right that too

Jimbot posted:

I'm curious to know what would lose Hbomb more subscribers. A Zack Snyder video that's positive or his Star Wars Prequel defense video.

Mel Mudkiper posted:

Mother fucker wants to accuse me of not making the argument right but wont show up.

CelticPredator posted:

The kids like the prequels. They finally are able to say it without a bunch of olds coming in and whining as much.

CelticPredator posted:

Their TFA video was about this phenomenon.

Equeen posted:

Also, lol at whining about a small movie forum on twitter.

Mel Mudkiper posted:

I did enjoy finding out because Batman doesnt kill he locked a person who is immortal unless killed in a barrel in space forever as the dude is begging to just be killed rather than experience an eternity of being trapped in a barrel

Detective No. 27 posted:

My superheroes are totally ethical.



Snyder just doesn't get what the DCU is all about.

Nodosaur posted:

Okay.

Same for y'all with the tweets you're going after, right?

Gorn Myson posted:

The concept of live-tweeting a thread from our dead gay forums is very sad, but its definitely a step up from finding out about this and shouting "debate me Jay Allen, you coward!".

Nodosaur posted:

This forum doesn't have a great track record with bigotry either, especially in regards to mental illness, but the whole internet treats that poo poo like it's up for grabs I guess.

Eh. I made my point.

Mel Mudkiper posted:

Well yes but he is also instigating the conflict by stealing from a legal delivery of legal cargo

He is quite literally robbing a convoy. It would be like declaring shooting a violent bank robber mid-robbery to be an aggressive act

Mel Mudkiper posted:

thats irrelevant to the point

Vintersorg posted:

Not really, Lex Corp runs an illegal side op with sciences and weird poo poo. Batman sniffed it out and is taking it down.

It's like taking down a mafia courier stealing gold. But oh no, its so legal - they sell wine!

Mel Mudkiper posted:

what evidence is there that the shipment is illegal?

Why would it be illegal to ship a mineral no one knows exists in the first place?

Mel Mudkiper posted:

wrong thread but man Prometheus may be the most prominent example of characters acting not as agents but as slaves to a narrative outcome

the only competition is ironically Covenant, which leads to me believe Ridley Scott no longer understands how human beings work

ruddiger posted:

The "THIS IS SPARTA" scene would've owned if Gerard Butler's hog was flapping around in slow mo while he delivered that kick to the chest.

ruddiger posted:

He would've definitely had the personification of Death show up.

Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

Uh, no. That's not actually a thing he's known for.

Violator posted:

"This was never finished all the way"

I guess this shows what state chunks of the FX would be in for his cut.