|
Seems to me he intentionally described the work in an extremely narrow way to avoid the political part, which would be weird if he liked the political part Also MOS/BVS are outright rejections of that philosophy Also even if you were right, that quote isn’t “admiration”
|
# ¿ Mar 3, 2019 19:49 |
|
|
# ¿ Mar 29, 2024 11:37 |
|
Cease to Hope posted:You are describing Fountainhead as though it had some "apolitical" part that is commentary on the creative process. No I’m not. I’m describing what he says he took away from it, which is very narrow Also MOS/BVS are outright rejections of that philosophy Also even if you were right, that quote isn’t “admiration”
|
# ¿ Mar 3, 2019 20:08 |
|
Most of these examples of male gaze seem like male glances at best If the camera isn’t luridly lingering on them for like, even a second then it doesn’t strike me as a great example. Nor if there’s a dude in a speedo with a huge bulge center of frame. If Snyder was as vehemently male gaze-y has he was accused of being at the start of this, shouldn’t this be really easy?
|
# ¿ Mar 26, 2019 20:30 |
|
I was annoyed by the dissonance of this billionaire tearing up the streets in a $17,000 Jeep Renegade
|
# ¿ Oct 7, 2019 18:14 |
|
Man of Steel is the best superhero movie. At least in the last 15 years or so
|
# ¿ May 26, 2020 02:30 |
|
Brother Entropy posted:i dunno, spider-verse gets real drat close Oh true, sure. I was thinking live action
|
# ¿ May 26, 2020 02:43 |
|
gently caress off, this is a great thread full of good vibes and thoughtful posts
|
# ¿ Aug 21, 2020 19:10 |
|
I used to watch them a lot (just for laughs, not critique), and they mysteriously stopped liking Marvel around the time they started pushing Black Panther and Captain Marvel.
|
# ¿ Nov 30, 2020 01:58 |
|
Snowman_McK posted:Those were both exceptionally on the nose in commercialised wokeness with apoligia for imperalism and the military industrial complex right under the surface, so that makes sense. It sure does. Too bad they used it (and other movies) to just rant about the concept of representation on its own
|
# ¿ Nov 30, 2020 13:19 |
|
Wonder Woman literally shows a bunch of stock market lines going down when things look bad, and then going back up when things are fixed lol
|
# ¿ Dec 28, 2020 23:37 |
|
BigglesSWE posted:Hate to break it to you, but the movie is not that old. This is just silly.
|
# ¿ Jan 3, 2021 13:20 |
|
I don’t think it’s that over the top to observe that the guys who constantly bash a writer/director are talking about how much they miss his writing, without mentioning him. It’s happening a lot in the discourse around WW84.
|
# ¿ Jan 3, 2021 23:02 |
|
RBX posted:People want big budget movies, not animated movies. Nothing animated has come close to the shows from back in the day and the movies they're been making have all been bad in different ways, things are not what they used to be animated wise. So uh what is Batman if he’s not campy or deconstructed? A wealthy fascist, portrayed sympathetically? I’ll pass.
|
# ¿ Jan 4, 2021 04:58 |
|
RBX posted:Number one they're more faithful COMPARED TO WHAT MOVIES DC WAS PUTTING OUT. That's the conversation were having. Stop twisting words. No they didn't just make the comics into a film because that's not possible, duh. But OVERWHELMINGLY people agree whatever DC was doing is not what they wanted. This post is incomprehensible. In your first paragraph you (falsely) claim that Marvel is more faithful, despite many examples to the contrary. But then in the second paragraph you say you don’t care how faithful Green Lantern was. Then you say Batfleck was a faithful adaptation of DKR batman, but you hate that comic so it’s not good for it to be faithful. But you also want a Batman who is brutal and has issues?
|
# ¿ Jan 4, 2021 17:17 |
|
Who even cares how accurate an adaptation of something is? It’s a new interpretation, show me something new. If it’s bad, then say why it is bad. Maybe you can use the original work as a lens for what/how/why something is lovely, but simply damning it for being “different” is beyond pointless. E: not directed at McCloud
|
# ¿ Jan 4, 2021 17:34 |
|
The Joker: a cinematic cul-de-sac
|
# ¿ Jan 4, 2021 21:10 |
|
RBX posted:Green lantern was just bad, faithful or not. The point I was making that the MCU has overall good movies first. Man of Steel is better than any Marvel Studios movie. It also happens to be at least as entertaining and action-packed as any of them. Something tells me any reasons you give me why it isn’t are going to be bound up in the “not my Superman” poo poo, it’s circular reasoning that gives nothing to a discussion. Not even sure why you’re in this thread tbh RBX posted:
Were you having fun when Spider-Man almost blew up a school bus full of teenagers using tech that was identical to that used by the Nazis in Winter Soldier? How about when he was recruited as a child soldier by the selfish millionaire libertarian? How about when that same libertarian ranted about how he wanted to build a wall to keep out the dangerous foreigners and then was treated like Jesus at the end of the movie? Oh wait that Jesus guy also made the Nazi school shooter drones lol AdmiralViscen fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Jan 5, 2021 |
# ¿ Jan 5, 2021 01:30 |
|
Ghosthotel posted:RBX used the wishing stone from WW84 to become this post. This killed me
|
# ¿ Jan 5, 2021 17:44 |
|
McCloud posted:He specifically said he would not do that because he felt it disrespectful to Patty and her vision Typical randian objectivist
|
# ¿ Jan 6, 2021 03:54 |
|
I’m pretty sure this is based on some director backing out of a possible MCU movie because they were told that the action scenes in the film were already in production and that they wouldn’t have input in them. Can’t remember who, now.
|
# ¿ Jan 11, 2021 04:45 |
|
Good action has thematic and character relevance
|
# ¿ Jan 11, 2021 05:24 |
|
EmptyVessel posted:So basically, "We all went mad and shouldn't be held responsible, it was just the times"? Fairish point but, a very US-centric view, and also an excuse that would have come in handy in immediately post-WW2 Germany. Everyone said he sucks but deems it likely that he has grown, given that he went on to make multiple movies where people with that viewpoint are the bad guys
|
# ¿ Jan 13, 2021 21:08 |
|
Detective No. 27 posted:Time progession in LoTR movies is strange. I think Sam and Frodo are supposed to spend about six months out on their own trying to get to Mt. Doom. But then in the battle of Minas Tirith, I think, they point out to a spot that looks like a day's ride away where Sam and Frodo were at about that time (the details are fuzzy, I'm bad at remembering these things.) The books take six months from departing the Shire to destroying the Ring
|
# ¿ Feb 1, 2021 17:44 |
|
Escobarbarian posted:Another shining example of his secret genius What do you feel you offer this thread?
|
# ¿ Feb 14, 2021 18:25 |
|
Escobarbarian posted:When you’re part of a group who will go to ridiculous lengths defending the Martha thing or the actual jars of piss I’m not sure saying this sarcastically really works as well as you think Liking a movie doesn’t make anyone “part of a group” But if it did, the alternative is being “part of a group” that papered over Joss Whedon’s actual sex crimes
|
# ¿ Feb 14, 2021 18:34 |
|
RBA Starblade posted:I know you're joking; "invasion" isn't the right word really, but some of you are definitely provoking on purpose Rando Snyder haters routinely Kramer into this thread to deliver some ice cold take about how lovely or objectivist these movies are, what’s your point You can’t even post a trailer or bit of news about a Snyder production in other movie threads without getting 50 angry posts about what a piece of poo poo he is. This thread’s regulars are pretty upbeat and positive, and have interesting things to say about the movies
|
# ¿ Feb 22, 2021 18:45 |
|
Who is pretending that 0 Snyder fans have ever “provoked a response” lol You’re provoking right now Edit - for content: I think the question is typically “are Snyder fans more toxic/provocative than the average fandom, or specifically Snyder haters” and the answer is “no” IMO AdmiralViscen fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Feb 22, 2021 |
# ¿ Feb 22, 2021 20:03 |
|
RBA Starblade posted:No side is innocent in internet war, that's all “Not uniquely toxic” /= “never toxic” As far as I can tell, the only thing unique about the Snyder fandom is the massive donation drives for suicide prevention. It also happens to be measurable. The criticism of the Variety piece in this thread was that the donation drive is relegated to the end of the article, after repeated unsupported references to the fanbase’ toxicity. AdmiralViscen fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Feb 22, 2021 |
# ¿ Feb 22, 2021 20:07 |
|
These Snyder fans are always provoking arguments!
|
# ¿ Feb 25, 2021 05:18 |
|
Guy A. Person posted:Tbf to Eugene (although after that discord post...why would I even want to be) I did use the term "final cut" pretty flippantly. I haven't seen Zack's contract so I have no clue if he actually got final cut privileges, although given the history of the last two movies and the way this has progressed I kind of assumed that was part of the negotiations. Didn’t Snyder say he did all the work on this cut for $0 in order to guarantee no interference on it? I think you hit pretty close to home with your phrasing
|
# ¿ Mar 10, 2021 03:19 |
|
CelticPredator posted:???? It’s about pulling the levers of institutional power to protect your ego/lifestyle by taking advantage of the privileged status that was granted to you by sheer luck
|
# ¿ Mar 12, 2021 20:58 |
|
Yea, I’m with that reading
|
# ¿ Mar 16, 2021 16:34 |
|
Don’t bother if it’s not ultimate edition IMO
|
# ¿ Mar 16, 2021 21:51 |
|
Pirate Jet posted:Wait, you found the IMAX version? Where? I checked multiple times today and only ever found the regular Ultimate Edition. Best Buy has a listing for a new BVS release 3/23, no box art but I’m assuming it’s that
|
# ¿ Mar 19, 2021 15:55 |
|
Loved the movie, but did anyone have an issue with Martha being revealed as MM? I thought that really sucked the air out of the preceding scene and it served no real purpose anyway. And that purpose would have to be prettttttty good to be worth it.
|
# ¿ Mar 20, 2021 00:01 |
|
Comrade Fakename posted:I watched the Snydercut over the weekend. I would say that I thought it was pretty good. Very competent. To be honest, I was kind of shocked at how straightforward it was. Snyder's work that I've seen has mainly been exemplified by taking big weird swings at ideas and themes that often don't work (like pretty much all of BvS) but at least it's going for something somewhat unique. ZSJL isn't really going for anything particularly ambitious. Other than the length and Snyder's visual style there pretty much isn't anything in this movie that you wouldn't see in an MCU film. It's hilarious that the studio panicked and roped in Whedon to try and make them an Avengers movie, when Snyder had made them an inoffensive Avengers movie already. Oh, all apart from the new epilogue, which was just rubbish. It's kind of remarkable that so much drama and heated emotions have been generated over such an unremarkably decent movie. Though I'm probably being a little harsh, just making a 4 hour movie that doesn't feel like it drags too much is probably an accomplishment in itself. Ok so why did he delete all the black and Asian amazons then
|
# ¿ Mar 23, 2021 17:02 |
|
Whoa
|
# ¿ Mar 24, 2021 02:44 |
|
roffels posted:A curious experiment would be seeing how much you can cut until the film stops being coherent. I don't think there's a possibility of making a good 2-hour film out of this material, but think there could be a great 3-hour cut. For what it’s worth, Snyder presented WB with 3:00, 2:40, and 2:20 cuts. WB insisted on a 2:00 cut and that’s when he walked.
|
# ¿ Mar 25, 2021 17:03 |
|
KVeezy3 posted:I'm not exactly a deft purveyor of film video essays, but probably the only one hasn't made me gag was josh04's excellent treatise on Suicide Squad, which also economically functions as a critique on the 'film video essay' culture as a whole. Link plz
|
# ¿ Apr 19, 2021 00:24 |
|
|
# ¿ Mar 29, 2024 11:37 |
|
Robot Style posted:Snyder did one of those "[BLANK] Answers the Web's Most Searched Questions" things, and I thought it was kind of interesting that his answer to "What is Zack Snyder's directing style" has nothing to do with the final product of his movies, and instead is about how he treats the people working on them. I also liked that his answer to “how do you watch ZSJL” was a few perspectives on where to place your intermission instead of just “HBO Max”
|
# ¿ May 19, 2021 12:51 |