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Snowman_McK posted:There's something about Zack Snyder that just blinds people. I mean, i get disliking someone's films, but people go out of their way to misread films, statements, scenes...even individual lines of dialogue. It's become a performative thing to prove that you hate Snyder more than anyone else. It's just bizarre. I just had a reminder on my facebook feed of people saying Sucker Punch's action scenes were so badly shot they gave people motion sickness. Whatever you feel about Sucker Punch...that's just not true. Granted, Mad Max: Fury Road is the rare blockbuster that actually tells the story through the visuals and never insults the viewer's intelligence with lame exposition. Then again, it wasn't wildly successful, and Max Rockatansky doesn't carry the same baggage as Batman.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:By Cease to Hope's logic, the Mongol Empire was a refugee migration.
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May 23, 2019 17:35
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K. Waste posted:How have your guys gym days been?
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May 26, 2019 01:01
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:Snyder is one of a small group of filmmakers that actually try to do something genuinely interesting with the source material they're given, and nerds are not used to media actually making them feel things beyond the superficial. Anyone who appreciates Snyder should see Tarsem Singh's The Fall if they haven't already.
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Jul 16, 2019 13:53
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quote:When I can’t sleep, my mind obsesses over “hyperfixations,” a term those in the ADHD community will recognize.
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Jul 16, 2019 14:36
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The TLJ thing, if I remember right, was actually people starting a crowdfunding campaign to buy the rights from Disney and remake the film "correctly." Genuinely mentally ill people thinking that it was both possible and worthwhile to crowdfund hundreds of millions of dollars to remake a franchise blockbuster. It was perhaps the perfect example of SMG's thesis about nerds making capitalism their God and worshiping it via pop culture and the Internet. Changing the ending of the Mass Effect series arguably set a bad precedent. But it was a truly wretched job, and the change was an improvement. The Snyder Cut is a basically complete film. Comparing it to the TLJ furor is apples to oranges.
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Jul 16, 2019 15:42
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KVeezy3 posted:I'm not aware of any pop-culture media that depicts anything close to this, never mind comic book media, but the live-action series Titans goes out of its way to have scenes portraying two different heroes inflicting graphic violence against the abstract police, with no moralizing repercussions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfEyP-ksbo8&t=3460s quote:Unfortunately, the show is otherwise unremarkable.
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Jul 18, 2019 16:38
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Yeah, that's what I meant about the soap opera stuff. Too much time spent on, like, Robin and Raven agonizing over whether he'll be her father figure. Doom Patrol is also a character drama but it's actually really good.
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Jul 18, 2019 20:08
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Darko posted:Every show on the "Arrowverse" gets worse as it goes on except Legends.
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Jul 19, 2019 00:30
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Does the workprint cut anything? Hopefully the train scene?
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Jul 20, 2019 19:48
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That guy wasn't really annoyed, it was his favourite part of the movie. That is the sort of person who only enjoys movies when they "beat" them by pointing out their flaws, thus making them smarter than the filmmakers.
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Jul 31, 2019 14:51
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hump day bitches! posted:I watched the extended edition of Watchmen and is great and so much better than I remembered.Just completely gorgeous, textured and casted.Jeffrey Dean Morgan as the comedian is excellent.The scenes in the war room with richard nixon are also an standout.
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Aug 21, 2019 21:02
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Chuka Umana posted:No I'm arguing that you can't call me pro-cop because I think Jussie Smollett is a c rate actor who made poo poo up when most of you guys support the application of state violence through arbiters of state enforcement. Chuka Umana posted:you’re just a Trotskyist liberal who wants to go after black people if they aren’t one or the “good ones” that follow the party line. Chuka Umana posted:The most profound Snyder symbolism is in 300 where he made all the good people lily white and all the bad people dark skinned black. Very powerful.
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Sep 10, 2019 15:59
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I wouldn't say that The Boys parodies BvS outfits. The aesthetic is similar because it looks good. The show producers apparently decided that deliberately making the heroes look stupid, like they did in the comics, would make it hard to market the show. When I saw the designs for Watchmen, most of my friends were down on them but I took them as a sendup of the Schumacher Batman costumes.
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Sep 17, 2019 20:52
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I like some of the MCU costumes. But they are very militarized, and in The Boys, presenting the characters as celebrity gods rather than jackbooted thugs is the point.
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Sep 17, 2019 21:06
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The DC shows are like the CW shows but they move along briskly and the plot points are never as silly. Oh, and the costuming is consistently better.
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Nonetheless, I like the thing that you do not like.
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Sep 23, 2019 20:13
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Jimbot posted:You'd figure anyone with half a brain at Warner/DC/Whatever would capitalize on "While Marvel was twiddling its thumbs, we gave you a queer superhero on the big screen" kind of social capital corporations are so in desperate to get.
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Sep 24, 2019 03:08
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McCloud posted:I am a leftist so I have a bias, but it's difficult for me to not see the movies with a distinct leftist theme, but I am wondering what is it that makes people interpret it as having a conservative bent? Is it Pa kent, the seemingly friendly portrayal of the military, the hypermasculine imagery? It weirds them out when Snyder depicts Batman as a plainly psychotic fascist and doesn't tell you what to think about that. Gorn Myson posted:When Pain & Gain was being released, a common sentiment online was "Michael Bay isn't clever enough to make a satirical movie, so this must be 100% sincere". well why not posted:Important to keep in mind that Snyder also has studied art at a minimum college level so is probably aware of things being able to be nuanced. well why not posted:The main thing that’s really truly endorsed in his DC films is sex with very muscular men. I’m sure there’s a property out there that could synergise with that strength. Perhaps whatever Jo Jo is. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Oct 9, 2019 |
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Oct 9, 2019 18:15
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McCloud posted:Right, the characters aren't "likeable" because they're sad or not smiling enough or angry or whatever. It's borderline bizarre how a requisite for action movies these days is to have a quippy protagonist that makes jokes about Americas rear end or raping women on their wedding night
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Oct 9, 2019 21:33
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K. Waste posted:In 300, the myth is that it’s leonidas’s sacrifice that unites the Greeks. In the sequel, the Athenians take all the credit, whereas the Spartans are depicted as cynical isolationists. Ubik_Lives posted:However, we unfortunately live in a world where we don't have normal audiences. We live in a hell world where the alt-right is 100% on board with eugenics, think kids should be constantly fighting to stop them becoming beta cuck soyboys, think our politicians are secret Muslims here to betray us, and think we need to be hyper-vigilant against sjws who want everyone to be treated equally when they aren't and haven't earned anything and will kill us all and our video games if given the chance. What we see as moral failings to judge the Spartans, they see core tenants that the Spartans perfectly exemplify the value of. Where we see their system failing, they see a cautionary tale. Where we (debatably) see the evils of propaganda, they see gospel. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Oct 11, 2019 |
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Oct 11, 2019 15:18
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Alhazred posted:For a society built on warfare they really suck at going to war.
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Oct 11, 2019 16:41
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I was immediately mad because I'd read the book, and that scene is a simplified version of the scene from the book that makes a totally different point.
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Oct 12, 2019 00:19
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Showgirls has already received that same reevaluation, it's just that far fewer people saw and enjoyed it in the first place.
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Oct 12, 2019 04:23
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Patrick Spens posted:Look mate, she's a capitalist, which means she's basically a fascist, and you wouldn't quote a fascist would you???
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Oct 15, 2019 02:18
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Kingdom Come repudiates ultraviolent 90s superheroes, but it also shows Superman spending several years as a bitter, pathetic loser until he gets his groove back.
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Oct 25, 2019 14:49
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Guy A. Person posted:The genius who wrote it, Mark Waid — one of the first comic authors I was a fan of and used to really respect — wrote a blog about how he walked out of MoS because “Superman doesn’t kill for any reason”. To him, actually going through the act is the important thing, regardless of intention. He wrote a Superman who was going to kill hundreds of people including innocents for revenge but had to be convinced not to, but apparently it’s worse for Superman to actually kill even when he has no other choice.
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Oct 25, 2019 15:56
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I remember some guy losing his poo poo in the BvS thread because (and this is not the only place I've seen this), Batman's most important character trait is that he doesn't kill. How can you think a character can be defined by not doing something, especially something that most people don't do anyway? "Atticus Finch's most important character trait is that he doesn't like Marmite."
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Oct 25, 2019 18:42
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Brother Entropy posted:back when i read comics the amount of metatextual commentary masquerading as morality revolving around heroes killing got extremely obnoxious. it's all just genre convention that decides batman knocking a goon out means they wake up a few hours later perfectly fine and not leading to brain death
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Oct 25, 2019 20:16
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Uncle Wemus posted:Batman's no kill policy is extra hilarious in the arkham games where he punches guys who are easily 250 lbs of muscle so hard they fly back +10 feet or hits them with his tank that also electrocutes at 40 mph and they "live" SuperMechagodzilla posted:As I've noted elsewhere, science fiction begins when you interrogate the fantasy.
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Oct 25, 2019 21:02
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Absolutely, they just couldn't instantly register their displeasure online. They were also mad about Michael Keaton not being built like a pro wrestler and every other dumb complaint you can think of.
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Oct 25, 2019 21:17
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"Lithe, Slim Batman" fucks up the dynamic that's been established for the Bat-Family. Bruce is Daddy, Nightwing is the slim acrobatic one. Anyway, there isn't really an ideal body type for all the things Batman is supposed to be almost-the-best-in-the-world-at. For fighting, a heavyweight MMA fighter, but that guy's going to run out of gas when he zip-lines between buildings all night.
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Oct 28, 2019 15:36
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Not only is the plot of the film more efficient, it learns from the original and builds on it. Veidt's triumph compresses the end of the Cold War and 9/11 into a single event.
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Oct 29, 2019 01:29
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hump day bitches! posted:He's reading only works if he starts with Zach Snyder being a fascist and stupid and then finding the clues in the comic and movie. And yeah, it is based on starting with the absolute metaphysical certainty that Snyder is a gay fascist Randroid and then reading that into any given movie.
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Oct 29, 2019 14:20
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I think the Objectivist thing is a product of this horrible cottage industry of YouTube movie reviews, regardless of who's doing it. It's incredibly easy to read a Wikipedia article about Rand and then do a scene by scene breakdown of how Man of Steel is about a Randian hero. Content for the content gods.
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Oct 29, 2019 15:17
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He became gay when he did 300, came out as bi when he did Watchmen and Sucker Punch, and became 100% gay again when he did Man of Steel and BvS. People are whatever justifies me being really mad at them right now. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 15:29 on Oct 29, 2019 |
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Oct 29, 2019 15:25
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Oh, yeah. Edited. Don't know why I put that. JL was just boring above all else.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I mean the whole point of the comic book is that The Comedian tells Ozymandius that there's no future but nuclear war and Ozymandius, the smartest guy in the world, the guy who can play the stock market with 100% success and literally invent tech that's 40 years ahead of its time and get CEOs kissing his ring just for a few crumbs of his wisdom, has near clairvoyance for global events, that guy, he agrees totally and starts working on a "solution". Also every single bit of imagery in the book supports him. But because a single line of dialogue isn't said, well maybe he's not right? Who knows?
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I don't know what you're trying to say. Yes, Ozymandias is a supervillain, and he carries out a supervillainous plot.
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:We did elect Reagan twice though, which I'd argue is probably worse It happened! Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Sorry, you're right, I'm being unclear. I'm saying that although Watchmen is a more "realistic" take on the superhero genre it still is a superhero work. So Veidt is not just a very smart guy who pretends to be a supergenius as part of his aggrandizement, he actually is a comic-book level supergenius that can do amazing stuff nobody else can do and catch bullets. By necessity, that separates him from being "just" a Wall Street Master of the Universe style CEO fraud. Sir Kodiak posted:The branching point seems more to be that Nixon was able to convince Dr Manhattan to intervene in Vietnam while the real Nixon wasn't willing to use, or at least was dissuaded from using, nuclear weapons in that conflict.
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