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teagone posted:This is a great edit But thats mostly Whedon stuff in the first part. I'm so confused.
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RBA Starblade posted:No, everyone's favorite Batman in everyone's favorite Batman movie couldn't just get rid of a bomb He kills people in his movie, but its totally not his fault that he punched them into non-existence because he's not the one that rehydrated them badly.
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NikkolasKing posted:That's not how any of that is depicted. Batman is presented very strongly as a paragon of virtue and justice in the Nolan films and his "one rule" a mark of his integrity. If you want psychopath Batman you need to look elsewhere. Older post, but in etching to note is that in Rises, Batman AND the Gotham police need to come out if Lazarus Pits to be reborn into anything kind of useful, and Bruce is only free when he gives up his wealth (wealth is property and holdings; he's still somewhat rich by connections, which is different) to the real underclass (orphans) and gives his Batman stuff to a guy that explicitly rejects being a cop. I'm not sure how your reading is celebrating Batman as opposed to it taking Bruce 3 movies to figure out how to be good.
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I lost a whole reply to the response to my post. But the difference between Nolan and Snyder is that Nolan thinks that liberalism can be saved by people realizing how to save it, where Snyder thinks the rightful powerful person can finally fix the system. Neither has been proven. TDKR shows how Revolutions the the American can be ruined by capitalists controlling it and how the French ends at the status quo but better (it literally quotes Tale of Two Cities with Gordon's speech at the end). Nolan understands the issues and ridiculously optimistic that they will change whole religious Snyder thinks that things will be fixed with outside intervention.
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bushisms.txt posted:I think you might have them flipped? The dark Knight trilogy begins and ends with a singular person realizing the system is flawed and must work outside of it, whereas the Snyderverse was literally gonna end as "the world becomes a justice league". ZSJL is about Bruce establishing the beginning of a collective with "room for more." Rays thinks that the whole thing has to be torn down by fire and started over. Batman thinks it can be fixed. Remember the issue is that Batmans ultra wealthy liberal parents start implementing liberal solutions like trains which kind of work to stave off the issues and not solve them. To which the police are completely corrupted. Then in DK, Batman fixes the police and the mob and he misses a huge blind spot which the Joker feels. He's proven slightly wrong in that people will be jaforoty good. In DKR, Batman realizes the best thing is to turn it over to a non police orphan to fix the system, where Gordon realizes the point of Tale of Two Cities. I'm realizing a lot of people didn't realize his end speech recently. Nolan thinks a prefect liberalism can happen. MoS has a guy that buys into neither saying that Batman, as a representative of it doesn't work and you have to go further. Which is which BvS make him turn intro a conservative the second a castrophic attempt happens. I still have my 9-11 posts here and you can see what was happening to liberals at the time for reference.
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Dec 24, 2022 04:59
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McCloud posted:My 2c: That's a part of the issue. I saw Black Panther 2 in theaters and was bored out of my mind throughout. Saw Black Adam and was just kind of bored but liked some of the action. There's so.e weird team playing stuff going on with the reception that makes little sense. If there are any two movies with equally muddled politics, it's those two. But Black Adam actually has entertaining bits of sequences.
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MacheteZombie posted:Anyway I'm gunna start gunning down posters who talk about gunn and non snyder comic book movies in our holy dome We better not start a Dawn of the Dead chat then because it's gonna branch out by default.
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McCloud posted:You're all wrong, if any anime was made for Snyder to adapt, it's JOJO Takashi Miike is a better choice and he already did it. It's still not fabulous enough though.
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