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McCann looks like he's a straight upgrade on Sheahan. Which is great. His shot stats are way better, his zone entry/exit stats are way better, and he's cheaper (for now). Bjugstad is the same way. His shot control/contribution stats are much better than Brassard's, controlled entries are much better, and exits are roughly the same. Flipping 2 expiring contracts for 2 younger players that are controlled for a bit could be helpful as well. Have to think if/when the Pens move a defenseman they'll be looking to get some picks back. Maybe they don't move anyone and are just all in. That said a big part their back to back cups were generating tons of shots and spending dominant shifts with the 3rd and 4th line in the offensive zone with Sid/Geno/Phil coming off the bench against players that have been out for 70-80 seconds already trying to defend against the cycle and creating fantastic offensive opportunities/power plays. This seems like, at least from a 'fancy stats' perspective, a move towards getting back to that.
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Bjugstad wasn’t our most talented player but is a genuinely nice dude and I hope the change unlocks his potential that just never seemed to come with us. Seemed to finally be using his size advantage this year, he needs to realize he can push people around. Fun nickname: Rotisserie Chicken, because his girlfriend told the team one day that rather than eating a dinner with them he had chosen to eat a Publix rotisserie chicken in his car instead for some reason. He didn’t love the nickname.
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EL BROMANCE posted:Fun nickname: Rotisserie Chicken, because his girlfriend told the team one day that rather than eating a dinner with them he had chosen to eat a Publix rotisserie chicken in his car instead for some reason. lol that rules
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EL BROMANCE posted:Bjugstad wasn’t our most talented player but is a genuinely nice dude and I hope the change unlocks his potential that just never seemed to come with us. Seemed to finally be using his size advantage this year, he needs to realize he can push people around. This would only be acceptable if it was a Publix chicken tender sub.
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EL BROMANCE posted:Bjugstad wasn’t our most talented player but is a genuinely nice dude and I hope the change unlocks his potential that just never seemed to come with us. Seemed to finally be using his size advantage this year, he needs to realize he can push people around. I love my big shy giant already
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Feb 1, 2019 20:56
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EL BROMANCE posted:Fun nickname: Rotisserie Chicken, because his girlfriend told the team one day that rather than eating a dinner with them he had chosen to eat a Publix rotisserie chicken in his car instead for some reason. He's going to be Phil's best friend 
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Feb 1, 2019 21:03
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rex rabidorum vires posted:He's going to be Phil's best friend Penguins fans will be throwing hot dogs and rotisserie chickens on the ice during the playoffs
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Jovial Cow posted:Penguins fans will be throwing hot dogs and rotisserie chickens on the ice during the playoffs Your gonna give a yinzer a delicious chicken or hot dog and expect them to throw it away?
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They won't eat it unless it came from a gas station.
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gonna go watch the caps lose to whichever tkachuk it is tonight, i think caydn???
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:gonna go watch the caps lose to whichever tkachuk it is tonight, i think caydn??? me2 I hope Ovi is there with his new dolphin friends.
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I will also be at the Caps game, in which they are going to get their rear end kicked, and OV isn't even playing so really tickets should have been half off imo
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Feb 1, 2019 22:19
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seems like a good trade for the pens. don't know if it really moves the needle on their chances this year unless bjustad or mccann start outperforming, but seems like a net positive for the next couple years. i really hope the pens find a way to move maatta and johnson
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EL BROMANCE posted:Bjugstad wasn’t our most talented player but is a genuinely nice dude and I hope the change unlocks his potential that just never seemed to come with us. Seemed to finally be using his size advantage this year, he needs to realize he can push people around. sounds like the pens won this trade but more seriously it looks like mccann and bjugstad have better underlying stats than sheahan and brassard, while having similar traditional stats, and they're younger, and have term on their contracts, so it seems like a solid gamble. brassard quite obviously wanted to be traded but he was on an expiring contract and wasn't doing a whole lot to juice his trade value so this kind of return was as good as you could reasonably hope for
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Sharks Eat Bear posted:i really hope the pens find a way to move maatta and johnson Maatta is a tough one to me because until this season he was pretty decent corsi player and makes a lot of really good plays in the defensive zone. As always though he is so slow and if he's caught he's screwed. Probably a bit over payed though. Jack Johnson just freaking flat out sucks. Positionally one of the worst players I have ever seen. Doesn't read the play well, doesn't anticipate things at all, and does not have the skating ability/physical attributes to make up for that. I can not see the Pens moving him though. They committed to him and I think JR is going to stick to that...unfortunately. From passing/production/stat standpoint they are nearly identical. Olli has better shot contribution fancies vs Johnson having better zone entry/exit stats. They both suck at defending entries. It'll be what it is. My guess is Maatta probably isn't going to improve much beyond what he is now...and Jack Johnson is definitely not changing. Edit: I think the 'plan' here for the Pens is by adding Nick and Jared they *hopefully* improve their underlying shot/possession stats by spending more time in the offensive zone. Moving anyone from their back end will likely be trying to add another player up front that can do that as well. If the forward group always has the puck in the o-zone who needs defensemen? rex rabidorum vires fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Feb 1, 2019 |
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It's a good deal for Florida too. Sounds like they might try to flip Brassard later, and even if they don't having cap space available to take a run at Panarin and Bobrovsky (if that rumor is true) is an asset in itself.
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Jamwad Hilder posted:It's a good deal for Florida too. Sounds like they might try to flip Brassard later, and even if they don't having cap space available to take a run at Panarin and Bobrovsky (if that rumor is true) is an asset in itself. Panarin - Barkov - Dadonov would be a loving unreal line
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Yeah, based on the Hoffman trade earlier I’d like to think the org have something planned. If not and this is just to save some money, then I’m not impressed.
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Jake Muzzin is excited to play for the Leafs and I'm excited to see him play instead of Hainsey on the top pair.
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Apparently the plan is for Bjugstad and McCann to play tonight. That should be fun. Welcome, boys. e: And Geno is day-to-day (will not play this weekend) Good Soldier Svejk fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Feb 1, 2019 |
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rex rabidorum vires posted:Edit: I think the 'plan' here for the Pens is by adding Nick and Jared they *hopefully* improve their underlying shot/possession stats by spending more time in the offensive zone. Moving anyone from their back end will likely be trying to add another player up front that can do that as well. If the forward group always has the puck in the o-zone who needs defensemen? I don't really think any NHL team/coach really thinks about improving their shot/possession metrics. They all claim to "have their own metrics" even when the product on the ice shows that whatever metrics they're using loving blow NHL coaches still dumb and bad
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:gonna go watch the caps lose to whichever tkachuk it is tonight, i think caydn??? Chad Sexington posted:me2 Jamwad Hilder posted:I will also be at the Caps game, in which they are going to get their rear end kicked, and OV isn't even playing so really tickets should have been half off imo Mike Smith is starting in net.... regardless of who wins, take the over.
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Apparently the plan is for Bjugstad and McCann to play tonight. I think our players get hurt literally every time they fight so maybe should stop doin that
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Ginette Reno posted:I think our players get hurt literally every time they fight so maybe should stop doin that I mean I 100% understand getting frustrated but those hands are meal-tickets. Their job is not to punch
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grack posted:Pens used three draft picks and took on some salary to get younger and improve their forward depth. Boomer The Cannon (the goon, not the phallic mascot) and I talked about this today and I agree with both he and Uncle Bob. Plus, Fancy Cats want Panarin and CBJ were kicking the tires on Brassard... CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Feb 1, 2019 |
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Levitate posted:I don't really think any NHL team/coach really thinks about improving their shot/possession metrics. They all claim to "have their own metrics" even when the product on the ice shows that whatever metrics they're using loving blow Sullivan talked about fancies stats and puck possession in terms both shots and offensive zone time when he first took over. He has definitely talked about xGF and xGA as well. How much it weighs on his and GM JR's decisions vs being lip service is very hard to say....they did sign Jack Johnson and Matt Hunwick to UFA deals and Hunwick cost them Cool and Good little hockey guy Conor Sheary. All that said they moved Hagelin for Pearson (younger and controlled contract), Sprong (potential top 6 scorer maybe) for Pettersson how that turns out will probably take a while to know, and then the move today...again getting younger and controlled contracts for 1 bad player (Sheahan) and another who just wasn't working out. The Pens have a decent record of giving young players a chance lately and if they just got faster (NHL Channel talking heads say yes) that's even better. Giving up the 2nd and 2x4ths is definitely going to hurt though. WBS is completely bereft of everything. Cap wise they aren't in too bad a shape. With all things though time will tell.
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The 2nd and 4th are basically chances to have players like the ones they just acquired, but five years down the road when their superstars are nearing retirement.
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Zodijackylite posted:The 2nd and 4th are basically chances to have players like the ones they just acquired, but five years down the road when their superstars are nearing retirement. For real, you might get a McCann as a 2nd rounder and like... no one in the 4th. This is the right move although I am not sure what we're gonna do with all the RWs (Kessel, Hornqvist, Rust, Bjugstad). I feel like it's more likely that one of them is moved than a d-man but I guess we'll see.
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rex rabidorum vires posted:Maatta is a tough one to me because until this season he was pretty decent corsi player and makes a lot of really good plays in the defensive zone. As always though he is so slow and if he's caught he's screwed. Probably a bit over payed though. Respectfully but vehemently disagree. Maatta has been a negative CF%rel for the past 3 years, and if i look at WOWYs it seems that Olli is a drag on most of his D partners. Going by the eye test I think he makes almost exclusively terrible plays in the defensive zone, which seems to be getting worse and worse and he gets slower and unable to recover from being out of position. I used to think that this was a blip and he'd be able to turn it around with a little more conditioning after he missed all that time post-cancer recovery, but unfortunately that hasn't happened and it seems like he's only going to get worse from here Not that I think Johnson is better. They're both total anchors
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Sharks Eat Bear posted:Respectfully but vehemently disagree. Maatta has been a negative CF%rel for the past 3 years, and if i look at WOWYs it seems that Olli is a drag on most of his D partners. Going by the eye test I think he makes almost exclusively terrible plays in the defensive zone, which seems to be getting worse and worse and he gets slower and unable to recover from being out of position. I used to think that this was a blip and he'd be able to turn it around with a little more conditioning after he missed all that time post-cancer recovery, but unfortunately that hasn't happened and it seems like he's only going to get worse from here All of this is fair. I'm not opposed to moving Maatta it depends on what comes back. I think Riikola is *maybe* a better option already and that's with playing way less NA playing time and probably having a bunch more upside.
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rex rabidorum vires posted:All of this is fair. I'm not opposed to moving Maatta it depends on what comes back. I think Riikola is *maybe* a better option already and that's with playing way less NA playing time and probably having a bunch more upside. All stats (and eyes) show Riikola is pretty much a pre-season flash in the pan. Granted, he's getting absolutely murdered with zone starts but so is Maatta, but Maatta at least has a really good outlet pass still. Pettersson on the other hand is an absolute delight and when Schultz comes back we'll have enough d-men to have at least one good one on each pairing.
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Yeah honestly I’m fine with the pairings once Schultz comes back. Letang-Dumo, Schultz-Maatta, Pettersson-Johnson works well and even Johnson played better with Pettersson. Not like “want him in the line up better”, but better. He’s stuck on the team with that contract so might as well limit the damage he can do.
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It comes down to who are you playing in that 4D role and then pushing in to the bottom pairing? Johnson absolutely deserves being on the bottom pairing. Pettersson I really like as well, but you probably don't want to put him up that high...and Maatta/Johnson is an absolute disaster.
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https://twitter.com/NHLCanes/status/1091540271387561984 burke is going to be so mad
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rex rabidorum vires posted:It comes down to who are you playing in that 4D role and then pushing in to the bottom pairing? Johnson absolutely deserves being on the bottom pairing. Pettersson I really like as well, but you probably don't want to put him up that high...and Maatta/Johnson is an absolute disaster. Given that Schultz was getting something insane like 60 percent offensive zone starts last year I wonder if the idea was to pair him with JJ and give them the easiest coverage. That leaves Dumo/Letang and Maatta/Pettersson to handle the harder minutes and I feel more confident in those pairings. I don't know. I don't know what you do with that loving JMFJ boat-anchor he is just so bad. He doesn't look as bad as like a Scuderi did because he can still kinda skate but he is one of the worst decision makers I've ever seen. We can only hope Sid really begged to get him this contract as a favor and JR can find someone (Bennnnnnnning) to convince he's worth having
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fits posted:https://twitter.com/NHLCanes/status/1091540271387561984 The Canes rule.
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yellowcar posted:The Canes rule. Yeah, these post game team cellys are like the freshest thing in the league in decades. E: the next CBA will outlaw them
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N: The Washington Capitals V: are a professional ice hockey team based in Washington, D.C. They are members of the Metropolitan Division of the Eastern Conference of the National Hockey League (NHL). The Capitals are owned by Monumental Sports & Entertainment, headed by Ted Leonsis. From 1974 to 1997 the Capitals played their home games at the Capital Centre, in Landover, Maryland (a suburb of Washington, D.C.). In 1997 the team moved to the arena now called Capital One Arena, their present home arena in Washington, D.C.
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