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Yeah the first 10 chapters of that were kinda spinning its wheels, but the last 3 really opened up the story and it seems way more interesting to follow now. Compendium posted:It kind of bothered me at first too, but I'm getting into its rhythm. I don't think it's necessary in these kinds of stories to have immediate wins as it were and I'd argue that part of the conflict, externally is gaining back agency (I mean I hope it is) as a maligned fictional female character who was designed to get screwed over by the narrative which blames her downfall entirely on herself and not the male love interests who don't really get punished by the way they treat her. I feel the same about Bakarina new game plus, it feels like she didnt struggle to win people over despite the shorter timelime and more difficulty she should have had. The first one was great, but the second just feels like a retread
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May 2, 2020 15:50
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Fellis posted:I feel the same about Bakarina new game plus, it feels like she didnt struggle to win people over despite the shorter timelime and more difficulty she should have had. The first one was great, but the second just feels like a retread New game plus Bakarina is hardly struggling and it's way more dull as a result. Hell, it makes me feel lesser towards the main story even though I love the light novel and think the manga adaption is decent enough. It also makes me realize that I'm starting to have a lot of nitpicky feelings about Bakarina and its relationship dynamics but I'll just leave them at the door because at the end of the day it really is just light fluff.
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May 2, 2020 16:10
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Bakarina's story might as be over because the climax of the condemnation event has come and passed. If it hadn't taken off so much, that would have been the perfect place to end it.
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May 2, 2020 18:09
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Beware the Villainess is rapidly becoming my second favorite otome isekai.
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May 2, 2020 20:07
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amigolupus posted:Just read this as well! I was definitely feeling the same way; while there is a lot of comedy from everyone in this story being kind of lovely and not listening to each other, it was feeling a little empty since the villainess wasn't really scoring even little victories. The updates today (chapters 22 and 23) have changed that a bit, so I am hoping this is going to be the start of things finally picking up for her.
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May 2, 2020 20:44
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Fellis posted:I feel the same about Bakarina new game plus, it feels like she didnt struggle to win people over despite the shorter timelime and more difficulty she should have had. The first one was great, but the second just feels like a retread Compendium posted:It kind of bothered me at first too, but I'm getting into its rhythm. I don't think it's necessary in these kinds of stories to have immediate wins as it were and I'd argue that part of the conflict, externally is gaining back agency (I mean I hope it is) as a maligned fictional female character who was designed to get screwed over by the narrative which blames her downfall entirely on herself and not the male love interests who don't really get punished by the way they treat her. Part of that from what I noticed was that the main character fell into the trap of excessive inner monologing. Like she'd get the attention of people, then reminisce/complain about them in her mindspace for a bit. So naturally they'd lose interest and she'd be like 'hey i've got something to say here!' Meanwhile I'm sitting here going 'it looks like you should have tried saying something instead of talking to yourself then.' And then she did. And it worked. Ahh catharsis.
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May 2, 2020 23:09
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I'd also add on and say the issue is that she's working out of (perfectly understood) self-interest in order to get back at the jerks in her life, but Melissa's only been really successful once she has actual concern for other people other than herself.
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May 3, 2020 07:58
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It just keeps getting better? I was not expecting this when she asked for an introduction to a swordmaster but it's the best direction it could have gone, imo.
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May 5, 2020 03:28
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Herbotron posted:It just keeps getting better? I was not expecting this when she asked for an introduction to a swordmaster but it's the best direction it could have gone, imo. She took quite a few levels in badass (and I love her shades).
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May 5, 2020 04:13
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Captain Invictus posted:<stuff from Page 75 about Is this Really a different world? Manga> Glad you are enjoying it. Honestly these days finding a new Isekai that is wholesome and doesn't fit in with a billion other tropes where the MC is in a black trenchcoat being overpowered and showing off his cheat skills is difficult. I mean, having a cheat skill in your isekai escape fantasy is well and good but really I like variety of finding stuff that doesn't fit in that mold. So I like to bring any I find to the thread, hopefully some people get a kick out of 'em. It's one reason why I love Karate Baka Isekai so much, the Protag is offered a cheat skill and just nopes out of there down to fight stuff with Karate. And then he punches the poo poo out of a wyvern. It's like Ride-On King but without all the weird putin propoganda! That said, I noticed in the latest update of Sentouin, Hakenshimasu! that there's an ANIME COMING! This one totally deserves it, being Konosuba 2.0 and all. khy fucked around with this message at 04:31 on May 5, 2020 |
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May 5, 2020 04:25
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khy posted:Glad you are enjoying it. Honestly these days finding a new Isekai that is wholesome and doesn't fit in with a billion other tropes where the MC is in a black trenchcoat being overpowered and showing off his cheat skills is difficult. I mean, having a cheat skill in your isekai escape fantasy is well and good but really I like variety of finding stuff that doesn't fit in that mold. Why can't there be more Konosuba anime though?
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May 5, 2020 04:27
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Why can't there be more Konosuba anime though? Because as fun as Kazuma and Explosion Spell and the rest of the cast are, evil henchman is as good or better.
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May 5, 2020 04:32
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It was too.. Mean spirited for me to get into as opposed to Konosuba or Kemono Michi. Giving that guy a topknot was funny though
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May 5, 2020 04:34
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khy posted:Because as fun as Kazuma and Explosion Spell and the rest of the cast are, evil henchman is as good or better. I'm asking why can't we have both.
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May 5, 2020 04:39
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Herbotron posted:It just keeps getting better? I was not expecting this when she asked for an introduction to a swordmaster but it's the best direction it could have gone, imo.
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May 5, 2020 04:51
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kirbysuperstar posted:It was too.. Mean spirited for me to get into as opposed to Konosuba or Kemono Michi. Strangely that's what I liked the most about it, but I love stories about the bad guys being bad guys. I adored Ratman, always look for 'be the bad guy' games, and unless they're just pure poo poo I often find myself rooting for bad guys in movies and stories. So this story is pretty much perfect for me.
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May 5, 2020 04:56
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yeah I can totally understand not wanting to watch the characters be COMPLETE assholes to each other, and at times in Combatants it totally does get a bit much, but other times it's just so goddamn hilarious that I can forgive its missteps. the topknot though, holy poo poo, and now it's gonna get animated edit: number six is totally right, I couldn't eat a sapient, talking creature either. Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 05:27 on May 5, 2020 |
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May 5, 2020 05:01
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New Endo and Kobayashi, and we're so close to finally getting to meet Finne's mother. 
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May 5, 2020 05:06
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combatants leans a bit too hard on violence against women as jokes. if it was less frequent, sure, it is supposed to be in bad taste.
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yeah, I totally get that, it's pretty offputting at times. on an unrelated note, Egg Dragon updated, I wish it updated more frequently since it's one of my favorites of the "stat-based" isekai, I like it more than the spider isekai at least.
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May 5, 2020 06:22
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I like Combatant's because while it's about a jerk in a party of women (hence why it seems to lean so hard on that schtick) there's plenty of mixing it up with the comedy and the villainy.kirbysuperstar posted:It was too.. Mean spirited for me to get into as opposed to Konosuba or Kemono Michi. I can't get into Kemono Michi. It repeats it's central joke too much and it's a bit to saccharine without some sort of variety to it.
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May 5, 2020 07:44
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I want to like Eminence in the Shadows. It has all kinds of things I usually like, but the Protagonist's sheer obliviousness puts me off for some reason. He's a top notch mage? Understandable given his goals. He's a great fighter? Makes perfect sense with his background. He stumbles across a conspiracy and dark cult? Actually not a bad idea, and I liked it. But somehow the combination of stupid luck (IE : Random knife thrown at a map miraculously lands on the location of a kidnap victim) and obliviousness to the fact that the cult he stumbled across is real and not just his own invention pushes it too far and feels dumb to me as a result. I don't know why it rubs me the wrong way. Usually I like most of the elements in play in this story.
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May 5, 2020 09:07
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khy posted:Strangely that's what I liked the most about it, but I love stories about the bad guys being bad guys. I adored Ratman, always look for 'be the bad guy' games,
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May 5, 2020 09:15
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khy posted:He's a top notch mage? Understandable given his goals. He's a great fighter? Makes perfect sense with his background. He stumbles across a conspiracy and dark cult? Actually not a bad idea, and I liked it. But somehow the combination of stupid luck (IE : Random knife thrown at a map miraculously lands on the location of a kidnap victim) and obliviousness to the fact that the cult he stumbled across is real and not just his own invention pushes it too far and feels dumb to me as a result. I don't know why it rubs me the wrong way. Usually I like most of the elements in play in this story.
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May 5, 2020 09:31
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Here's another new one. MC is reincarnated as a werewolf and a vice-commander in the Demon Lord's army, so he takes over a town with the most adorable army ever. Now he has to manage the city and keep bloodthirsty werewolves and annoying humans from murdering each other. Also his army is adorable. https://mangadex.org/title/38337/jinrou-e-no-tensei-maou-no-fukkan-hajimari-no-shou Only 5 chapters, nothing unwholesome yet, art style's a bit rough but I like it. khy fucked around with this message at 09:47 on May 5, 2020 |
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May 5, 2020 09:33
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Herbotron posted:It just keeps getting better? I was not expecting this when she asked for an introduction to a swordmaster but it's the best direction it could have gone, imo. I'm really loving these series where the MC is just a massive rage-ball. This one takes the cake, though. God drat is she so angry. And rightfully so! She needs to team up with the Mad Dog Princess and go on a cathartic smashing spree.
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May 5, 2020 09:55
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khy posted:I want to like Eminence in the Shadows. It has all kinds of things I usually like, but the Protagonist's sheer obliviousness puts me off for some reason. It's great when he thinks they're just all playing along with him, and when something that ought to be a massive challenge comes incredibly easily to him he thinks its all staged, but when he makes dumbass assumptions about what his closest entourage actually thinks and gets petty and jealous about poo poo it's just far, far worse. It strides the line, but falls off it quite often. A Will Eternal has a similar main character that's just far, far better.
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May 5, 2020 11:18
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Onean posted:New Endo and Kobayashi, and we're so close to finally getting to meet Finne's mother. Okay I just started this series, and chapter 3 has a phenomenal gag where the heroine obliviously munches on a bird leg like some kind of barbarian in the background. The fact that she is a complete blank slate and barely has a personality has to be a deliberate decision.
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May 5, 2020 11:22
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Phobophilia posted:Okay I just started this series, and chapter 3 has a phenomenal gag where the heroine obliviously munches on a bird leg like some kind of barbarian in the background. The fact that she is a complete blank slate and barely has a personality has to be a deliberate decision. Oh no, she has a personality, she's just set to minmax mode. Bird leg gives best stat gains.
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May 5, 2020 11:39
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:It's great when he thinks they're just all playing along with him, and when something that ought to be a massive challenge comes incredibly easily to him he thinks its all staged, but when he makes dumbass assumptions about what his closest entourage actually thinks and gets petty and jealous about poo poo it's just far, far worse. It strides the line, but falls off it quite often. A Will Eternal has a similar main character that's just far, far better. Phobophilia posted:Okay I just started this series, and chapter 3 has a phenomenal gag where the heroine obliviously munches on a bird leg like some kind of barbarian in the background. The fact that she is a complete blank slate and barely has a personality has to be a deliberate decision.  finne is great Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 12:13 on May 5, 2020 |
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May 5, 2020 12:10
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khy posted:I want to like Eminence in the Shadows. It has all kinds of things I usually like, but the Protagonist's sheer obliviousness puts me off for some reason. The way I interpret it is that he's basically Haruhi and is subconsciously reality-warping everything to go the way it does rather than 'just' being absurdly lucky. I enjoy it pretty well on those terms.
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May 5, 2020 12:38
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khy posted:Here's another new one. MC is reincarnated as a werewolf and a vice-commander in the Demon Lord's army, so he takes over a town with the most adorable army ever. Now he has to manage the city and keep bloodthirsty werewolves and annoying humans from murdering each other. Also his army is adorable. a bit rough is understating it I think. like I understand a minimalist style and they certainly have good chops when it comes to character design and expressions, but the description of "every page is like if someone set off a flashbang" is apt. the lack of hard lines can accentuate an artstyle, but in this case a lot of the time it just looks...off.  the lack of lines on their heads at times is particularly jarring sometimes, like there's a few shots of him looking off to the side and there's zero lines indicating where his face ends and the background, which is also solid white, begins, so it's just a floating face and hair in the panel with no lines showing where his head ends. it's an odd choice.  that said, a promising first five chapters, I like it, and the dogmen are suuuuuuper cute.
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May 5, 2020 13:14
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Phobophilia posted:Okay I just started this series, and chapter 3 has a phenomenal gag where the heroine obliviously munches on a bird leg like some kind of barbarian in the background. The fact that she is a complete blank slate and barely has a personality has to be a deliberate decision. Finne absolutely has a personality, it's just that... okay, so it points out at some point, I forget when, that the original game has a potential path where you ignore the romance entirely in favor of getting swole as gently caress, and get so powerful that you solo the final boss. This Finne is on that route.
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May 5, 2020 13:28
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Well I've caught up since. Finne's personality is still much more bare-bones than Endo or Kobayashi or Seig or Liselotte or Baldur. So the writer can be good at characters, it's just that they chose to make her a pure force of nature.
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May 5, 2020 13:45
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this is the second manga adaptation of that werewolf commander thing. the first one got cancelled for some reason and then someone else was tasked with making another.
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May 5, 2020 13:49
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The werewolf LN (Der Werwolf: The Annals of Veight) is up to 7 volumes now anyway. It's kind of a decent read. A slightly toned down isekai power fantasy because the MC is somewhat humble and doesn't particularly care about flexing his isekai advantages the way a more typical protagonist would.
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May 5, 2020 16:11
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Herbotron posted:It just keeps getting better? I was not expecting this when she asked for an introduction to a swordmaster but it's the best direction it could have gone, imo. Yeah, this had a shaky start but it's getting pretty fun now. The motivations of pretty much everyone other than Melissa are murky as heck, though, and the new maid has a real rear end of a name.
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May 5, 2020 18:12
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Onean posted:New Endo and Kobayashi, and we're so close to finally getting to meet Finne's mother. I like this one. Theres so much good stuff out right now.
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khy posted:I want to like Eminence in the Shadows. It has all kinds of things I usually like, but the Protagonist's sheer obliviousness puts me off for some reason. I read some translations of the LN up to the latest they had and they never explained that luck. I think the only solace there is that arbitrariness doesn't happen any more. The setting has so much stuff happening everywhere that the protagonist can't swing a cat with its claws digging into the cult in some way.
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