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amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

This is the dance
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Captain Invictus posted:

I've been generally enjoying the manga version of this but there's been some new chapters recently and boy howdy does the author's lovely mentality shine through on his beliefs about working conditions, child labor etc, and of course is portrayed as the "virtuous" choice

https://mangadex.org/chapter/906973

lol "hindering their growth"(which is them being forced to constantly adapt just to survive) by giving them a reasonable standard of living that you can totally pull off with the resources available to you and treating your inaction as a noble choice, piss off protag/author

hell, hire them to do what they were doing before(picking up monster corpses) officially as a cleanup crew for the mines or whatever and pay them a proper wage instead of having them continue to struggle to fend for themselves. he straight up told them to go back to cleaning the toilet pits which was stated right beforehand that it would make them sick if they had kept doing it, when his slimes love doing it and don't get sick from the piles of poo poo. it just reads like "suffering builds character" preaching to me

I read the chapter and yeah, that is some high-and-mighty bullshit. You'd think the protag would feel more empathy towards them since he died from overworking, but no, these kids need to learn to bootstrap themselves without any OP skills to cheat their way to a reasonable standard of living.

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gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

Ask me about the hate crime perpetrated against a gay black man, and how it was a real hate crime and totally not fabricated. I am well acquainted with the facts of this actual hate crime which actually took place in actuality.

well, his life of suffering which no one was willing to help him through paid off in the end. if those kids feel so bad about it why don't they just get a bunch of doting gods to remove all difficulties they could ever face?

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005


Clever Betty

a ragtag group of orphans, cleaning up poo poo pits to pay their EXISTENCE TAX, clearly they can ascend the societal ranks on their own! why would I, a rich, successful inheritor of incredible unique skills and wealth blessed by the gods to have no struggle in my life, give them assistance in improving their situation? they should be able to get to the rank of "base serf" in another ten years methinks!

that the author didn't make it incredibly apparent how hosed up a bunch of 10-12 year old orphans being forced to pay residence taxes and instead opted to say "nah fuckem, they're fine" instead of extending the MC's incredible resources to give these kids whose spirits had not yet been crushed by the inexorable machinations of feudal society a better chance at really accomplishing something, which would require the barest minimum of effort on his part, really shows what a dipshit the author is

like the series was OKAY before as a fairly generic, blase isekai but that chapter was some really revealingly stupid stuff.

Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 07:01 on May 29, 2020

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.


This is sounding increasingly unwholesome.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005


Clever Betty

yeah, that's the point, it was a relatively wholesome if generic isekai, that has taken a dive the last few chapters.

Jackard
Oct 28, 2007

We Have A Bow And We Wish To Use It

More like a relatively pointless isekai before this took place, since he breezes effortlessly through life.

There's a lot of harmless garbage linked in the OP - wholesome doesn't make something good.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005


Clever Betty

ok

egg tats
Apr 3, 2010


Captain Invictus posted:

a ragtag group of orphans, cleaning up poo poo pits to pay their EXISTENCE TAX, clearly they can ascend the societal ranks on their own! why would I, a rich, successful inheritor of incredible unique skills and wealth blessed by the gods to have no struggle in my life, give them assistance in improving their situation? they should be able to get to the rank of "base serf" in another ten years methinks!

that the author didn't make it incredibly apparent how hosed up a bunch of 10-12 year old orphans being forced to pay residence taxes and instead opted to say "nah fuckem, they're fine" instead of extending the MC's incredible resources to give these kids whose spirits had not yet been crushed by the inexorable machinations of feudal society a better chance at really accomplishing something, which would require the barest minimum of effort on his part, really shows what a dipshit the author is

like the series was OKAY before as a fairly generic, blase isekai but that chapter was some really revealingly stupid stuff.

but the duke's family is so nice you guyssss they're just making the world a better place by hiring orphans to clean the shithouses also I could take the time to actually teach anyone how to turn slimes into sewers but they've got a mop and bucket it's fine

(any time an isekai starts acting like Noblesse Oblige is a good and real thing a red flag earns it's wings)

edit: like, if bookworms off limits this is WAY worse because it seems like it treats child labour as good for the child, actually.

egg tats fucked around with this message at 14:15 on May 29, 2020

Bloody Pancreas
Feb 21, 2008




Reading through it I was under the impression he was gonna make up a way to have them live in the mine with him and pay them to help him with stuff and train them. The "let them live their lives" swerve felt out of place for a story about learning to rely on people who want to help you (guess he didn't).

khy
Aug 14, 2005



Maybe it'll be slightly similar to F-Class hero where the gods show up and tell him he's being a little poo poo and shouldn't just let them be and should actually improve things for people, introduce things like a formal schooling system and the like?

OK I know that's unlikely as hell but it would certainly spice up the series a bit if he actually had to grow as a person in some way.

Revdomezehis
Jul 26, 2003
OMG a Moose!

The previous scanlation group dropping this series a few chapters before all this crap makes more sense now. As pointed out, it was a fairly wholesome series but then it took a nosedive off the cliff of respectability with these chapters. Time for discussion of this series to move to the other isekai thread I guess to help keep this one clean(er).

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Rocko Bonaparte
Mar 12, 2002

Every day is Friday!


This is where we fabricate a fan theory that he's suffered some kind of brain damage. He just suddenly decides he's going to "live independently" which apparently means living in a noble's mine that was offered to him nearby. I still haven't figured that part out without getting into the Galt's Gulch thing with the kids.

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