Another Eden: Chrono Trigger for the Gacha Era

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Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Logged in after not playing for awhile and had the destiny tokens from last month (I must've logged in at some point?). First one gave me sunrise Shion, second one gave me a 4* Apostle Melina, but I already have the 5* AS Melina so this is fine. The last time I played regularly I stopped after getting through all of the Persona event and collecting both the lvl 60 weapons. My party's still only lvl 39-40 but it's Suzette, AS Melina, Morgana, Mighty (normal and AS), Joker, Mariel so if I ever get back to the main story I'm going to prbably bulldoze for awhile since the last story chapter I did was the one that unlocked the Persona character recruitment.

# ¿ Apr 10, 2020 19:45

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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 22:20

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Good Citizen posted:

Is there a good bluestacks setup to use a controller with this, at least for moving around? The best I've found so far is setting the dpad as freelook, but even then it seems to stop every few seconds and restart, and it doesn't work with up and down.

Also is thilellelelelle or Miyu the one in my party that keeps yelling IIIIIIIM CUMMMMMMMMING because wtf

It's Miyu and I have to imagine that after the voice line was recorded someone thought "ok this is so absurd we're just keeping it as-is."

# ¿ Dec 5, 2020 06:18

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Haven't played this for months and I think my story progress stopped as soon as I could do the Persona collab fully, how far in do you need to go for the Tales collab?

# ¿ Dec 17, 2020 21:29

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Clarste posted:

I don't see how the fact that there are overpowered freebies changes the fact that 99% of your gacha pulls are useless trash who are orders of magnitude weaker than the good characters.

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# ¿ Apr 21, 2021 16:20

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

I�d like to log in and check out the collab but this game is the absolute worst as checking and updating if you don�t play often. Checks updates for 20 minutes only to just sit updating at 2/2 forever. I�ve never seen a mobile game fail so badly at this stuff.

# ¿ Dec 30, 2021 05:25

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Vitamean posted:

Picked this game back up after dropping it a month after launch. Not having the specter of Granblue dailies on my back is helping me appreciate this game more, although I am sad they've shoved ads into the game since I last played. At least I finally got to Chapter 11 last night!

Guild War is going on in GBF right now though! :shepicide:

# ¿ Jan 18, 2022 20:56

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

This game's unwillingness to download updates will never cease to amaze me. So many times I think about logging in to play another chapter or two and just... can't, because after taking 10+ minutes to verify it asks me to download an update and then sits at 0% forever.

# ¿ Feb 23, 2022 20:15

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Marluxia posted:

That happened to me with a lovely phone, and as far as I can tell, it is actually downloading at 0%, it's just not updating the progress properly.

Looks like this was it, i let it sit while watching TV and it eventually updated. Used some 10 pull ticket I had and got a 4* Dewey (assassin fist) who can upgrade to 5*. Decided to tyr for Eva and the first multiple was a lot of nothing, just dupes and a couple new 3-4 star things. The second pull slightly better:

Not sure how I should set my team. Last time I played my team setup was Suzette(dragoon), Melina( I think it's her AS at 5* and OG form at 4*), Morgana, Mighty(both 5* styles), with Joker and Mariel(hierophant) in reserve. Joker for the swap in AOE for clearing fights faster, iirc. I have a handful of other 5* units like AS(?) Shion.

# ¿ Feb 25, 2022 03:29

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Stickman posted:

Hismena AS hits like a truck and her valor self-heal is super useful if you're stall-healing mid-dungeon. Eva's also a beast and pretty much works with anything, especially if you can arrange speeds so she goes first (to maximize the likelihood of extra hits). Hismena AS + Suzette + Eva + Melina AS or Morgana for healing (and crits when Melina AS' manifest releases) will throw out a ton of damage even without zones or other support. Once you get some more units you can throw in some better synergies, but they'll carry you through most of the story content all by themselves.

Cool, it sounds like a good setup to run for fast farming through fights would be Hismena, Suzette, Eva, Morgana with Joker to swap in for the aoe proc and then Melina AS in reserve for additional healing power if I want to take on fights above what I should be doing. Story-wise I think I'm only a chapter or 2 past when the P5 collab was able to be finished so I imagine this setup will blow through a ton of fights for awhile due to power creep and levels (and I think P5 dropped higher level gear or something?).

I'm not sure what you mean by pulling AS treaties but I'm sure it'll make sense as I play and remember more of the game.

# ¿ Feb 25, 2022 17:02

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

So with Eva at level 26-27 (others in the 40-41 range) and with a level 16 weapon I did Miglance castle (hard) and on a round where the boss was debuffed a bunch Joker crit for 4.5k two times Eva crit for 11k four times. Lunatic's 2x attack buff also stacks with the "attack twice if target is over 50% hp" effect? :psyduck:

I think one of her weaker rounds she still out damaged Suzette, who's level 41 and has a level 38 weapon and was using a 2x hit XL damage skill. I can only imagine how comically overkill she's going to be when she's actually at the same level as what she's fighting and has a similar level weapon.

# ¿ Feb 25, 2022 21:25

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Nakar posted:

The way damage works in Another Eden is that you want to stack a ton of multiplicative damage boosting effects, and the way Eva's kit happens to work is that she can self-sufficiently create the circumstances that permit her to do that.

Quick example: Icicle Zorch has a baseline skill multiplier of 190%, which is pretty normal for an XL magic attack. However, she starts the battle in Copy Lunatic, which lets her use skills twice, so that effectively means she's doing 190% twice, or up to four times depending on whether she's hitting that 50% trigger. Additionally, the skill itself does four times as much damage in Lunatic, and each time she uses it she gains 30% INT up to a max of +75%. On top of that, the skill grants 100% Magic Critical Rate and applies Break when it hits (a debuff that doubles the damage of the next hit to strike the enemy). So what all of this means is that in the best-case scenario, Eva is actually doing roughly (1.9 {baseline} + 3.0 {Lunatic multiplier bonus}) * 1.5 {crit} * 2 {break} * 4 {Copy Lunatic + 50% trigger}, or around a 4680% multiplier, with each successive cast also ramping up her INT and increasing her damage that way. I'm not even counting her Mental Focus buff, which increases her damage based on how much Max MP she has, or things like Grasta that would increase elemental damage or Pain/Poison punish multipliers, or hitting a weakness, or Magic Zone, etc.

This is very good, but the thing is, many characters can actually get to something like this (including Suzette, once her True Manifest weapon is unlocked). It's all about how many of the multipliers you can stack. Eva's pretty good at stacking them on herself, but other than granting partywide Magic Crit Rate and the Break she leaves if spamming Icicle Zorch she's not giving everybody else a ton. This is fine if she's your primary damage dealer, as you focus your support on her, but some parties can do crazy damage while also buffing each other to insane heights, so she's not necessarily as busted as she appears. Plus a lot of her damage is conditional, which makes her great in fights where the boss is likely to be over 50% HP for a while and then gets burned down in a recovery phase (which is what the Murphy superboss in the Mythos was), but much less good in fights where you AF a boss down to a 50% stopper on the first turn and then have to start unleashing hell. Her Crystal damage output is also ironically better against things resistant to it than weak to it (which has its applications, as Murphy showed, but is not generally how you approach fights). And like all Lunatic characters she theoretically has a bit of a time limit once Lunatic runs out, but since she gets free start-of-battle Lunatic it impacts her a lot less than other characters.

Cool, that makes more sense and I think I'm 1-2 levels away from getting Zorch on her. I tried running a lvl 45 hard dungeon (mementos?) and ended up failing since the boss seemed to have about 5-6x as much HP as the level 40 dungeon boss did, which was unexpected considering the rest of the dungeon was pretty easy but had no drops other than chests on the map with decayed leaves or something, and it kept healing 34-35k hp every few rounds so i eventually lost due to attrition. It sounds like the damage from Zorch might've been enough to brute force through it all. Since she can stack crystal/water debuffs up to 4x (so 100% resist debuff?) with glint purge that would further push her damage with Zorch into the stratosphere I assume?

Qylvaran posted:

It's a short list for now. Suzette, Mighty, and Shion.

I take it these are super far into postgame grinding? Oddly enough I have all 3 of those characters.

e: Got Icicle Zorch, used it on round 2 against a royal guard in the Miglance (hard) dungeon, 31k damage first hit then 174k on the second and it died from about 60-65% hp with that second hit. :hellyeah:

Evil Fluffy fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Feb 27, 2022

# ¿ Feb 27, 2022 19:44

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Lobsterpillar posted:

Don't the mementos bosses have specific shielding abilities too? They're the sort you really need to bring Joker or violet for unless you've got a better multi hit option

I have Joker and Morgana in the party, it just healed 35k every time it used evil fang(?). I'm going to try again now that I have Eva's very big icy hammer.

e: Well that was anti-climatic. Completely destroyed it. What a beast of a unit compared to anything else I can field.
e2: It looks like I need to keep an eye out for Felis Circulus treatise for AS Tsubame as well.

Evil Fluffy fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Feb 27, 2022

# ¿ Feb 27, 2022 20:50

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Any thoughts on which banner to use this anniversary item on that they gave out? It looks like one of the banners is a bunch of AS 5* units?

e: I'm catching up on the symphony stuff, just have CC left to do, how worthwhile are the CC and Tales characters given my current party?

Evil Fluffy fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Mar 9, 2022

# ¿ Mar 9, 2022 03:03

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Fezz posted:

You don't use the item on a banner. It just gives you a 5* with even odds for all of them.

I know, there's two different pools to select from and I'm not sure which to select. Or do you get 1 pull from each?

# ¿ Mar 9, 2022 04:21

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Got Isuka ES on the pull.

Decided to try for the flamemancer since I heard he was good and got him on the 2nd multipull. If I'm reading right, he basically works in fire/water/earth/wind with equal effectiveness if you have their zone going? So I could do something like have Eva swap out and back in (or swap her in on the first turn but she doesn't get auto-lunatic in the back row) to activate her water aura and all his damage would swap to water as well? I probably shouldn't have pulled for him since in the couple of VH dungeons I ran Eva deleted level 70+ horrors in 1-2 rounds but no going back now. :v:

# ¿ Mar 9, 2022 04:57

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

So while looking around I saw there's two subscription services and you get the first month free, which includes a "pick 7 characters and you get one at random" draw and the only caveat is the unit has to have been out for a while. I haven't redeemed the subscription yet but I was wondering who'd be some good units/styles to try and get using that? How hard are the trials they unlock? I ddn't see any details on what level they're geared towards.