My God, It's Full Of Techs: Let's Play Caveman2Cosmos (Civ IV overhaul mod)

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Aerdan: Apr 14, 2012; Not Dennis NEDry

B seems like a good bet.

# ¿ Feb 12, 2019 19:19

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# ¿ Apr 23, 2024 16:28

Aerdan: Apr 14, 2012; Not Dennis NEDry

Cultures generally only develop the things they need to survive more readily. Take the wheel, for instance; for non-toy use you need hard surfaces for them to run on, or they're generally going to be less efficient than just pulling a travois. No draft or riding animals means you won't acquire such surfaces at sizes big enough to make wheeled vehicles practical.

# ¿ Mar 19, 2019 03:58

Aerdan: Apr 14, 2012; Not Dennis NEDry

Angry Salami posted:

There's some evidence they used pulleys in the construction of the larger temple complexes, so they found uses for wheels, just not as transportation.

You don't need wheels to have pulleys, although they definitely help.

# ¿ Mar 22, 2019 08:38

Aerdan: Apr 14, 2012; Not Dennis NEDry

Obviously, one of them has to be Tsume. :v:

# ¿ Mar 25, 2019 21:44

Aerdan: Apr 14, 2012; Not Dennis NEDry

xelada posted:

I think it, like many techs, are less so much a case of your people inventing/discovering it, but more that it has been formalised, codified, specialised and or ritualised.
So before the tech "torture" is mostly beating the person/stabbing them in "unimportant"places/etc. is done wherever is convenient at the time, and is done by basically anybody, which can be used to get what you want, but has the bad habit of killing them before you can get what you want from them.
After the tech, rulers are likely to have someone (or multiple people) who's job is "torturer", a person who knows how to cause as much pain/fear/etc. as possible with as little chance that the "esteemed guest" expires before they can spill the beans; additionally these acts are done in a designated space, room or building, which will likely have a number of tools and implements made for explicitly and only for torturing.

tl:dr: I think it's less: "your people have invented Torture!" and more: "your people have invented the Pear of Anguish!"

Most of the implements of torture that we're aware of were invented in the 19th century, including that one. Nobody bothered to get creative with that kind of thing, since torture is a means to an end, not something that was done for the fun of it (sadists aside). I think what happened here is that the devs figured the Spanish Inquisition was a good starting point (even if that was actually Renaissance-era rather than Medieval). :shrug:

# ¿ Apr 5, 2019 09:34

Aerdan: Apr 14, 2012; Not Dennis NEDry

This LP is BEARy excellent, please continue.

# ¿ Apr 17, 2019 19:15

Aerdan: Apr 14, 2012; Not Dennis NEDry

Ralepozozaxe posted:

I feel like you have been doing things that would require knowing how to make fire long before you got the tech for it.

Humans have been manipulating fire for thousands of years before we figured out how to make our own.

# ¿ Apr 27, 2019 05:10

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# ¿ Apr 23, 2024 16:28

Aerdan: Apr 14, 2012; Not Dennis NEDry

Civilized and Pacifist

# ¿ Apr 8, 2020 18:35

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