[Mental Health] BetterGoon - Unlicensed, unprofessional help.

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Happy Thread: Jul 10, 2005; by Fluffdaddy; Plaster Town Cop

Sometimes music can take you right out of a hostile situation. Heard this yesterday in a restaurant and it was like I had teleported 20 years younger to a completely different era where none of today's issues existed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sjx9oSJDAVQ

Try putting on a new playlist today

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Willie Tomg: Feb 2, 2006

no, actually go without medication and start drinking more heavily wh8ile getting really into manic bluegrass murderfolk until hepatitis forces you to get your poo poo together

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSP7a4o2Xrc

or. y'know. don't. takes all types to make the world go round.

# ? Feb 10, 2019 20:01

Happy Thread: Jul 10, 2005; by Fluffdaddy; Plaster Town Cop

I dunno about that but thanks for posting the song, it rules

Death crew is a force of good but only if it's used to laugh in the face of the news and their lives and the absurdity of earth's constant dysfunction

# ? Feb 10, 2019 20:06

Willie Tomg: Feb 2, 2006

yes to be clear: do not do any of that poo poo, it's 100% sarcasm and livers do NOT grow back, which is a thing i know now.

# ? Feb 10, 2019 20:11

SunAndSpring: Dec 4, 2013

It feels cool having a degree and being on a job search for five months that has brought no fruit because none of the rare good-paying jobs that utilize that degree have ever bothered to interview me because they want more qualifications, and all the other jobs that at least will pay for rent and food will occasionally interview me and then decide I'm too qualified to be working there and then not give me the job. It rules, I love having to rely on a GoFundMe to pay the rent for the next few months, I love that I feel completely hopeless as to getting a job within that short time period, I love that when I complained about this a while back in another thread on here all the alleged socialists completely ignored me save for like one guy who tried to help but was in the wrong area to do so, god I just love everything.

# ? Feb 10, 2019 20:27

Happy Thread: Jul 10, 2005; by Fluffdaddy; Plaster Town Cop

They're all broke too mostly

# ? Feb 10, 2019 20:41

Finicums Wake: Mar 13, 2017; Can't post for 8 years!

good thread, op. idk if ill make further sincere posts in it, but thanks for posting it anyways

# ? Feb 10, 2019 20:51

maker: Jun 1, 2010; by Nyc_Tattoo

Chokes McGee posted:

im mentally ill poster chokes mcgee. i first started reading cspam when i was about 36. by 38 i got really obsessed with the concept of "trump" and tried to channel it constantly, until my thought process got really bizarre and i would repeat things like "ed balls" and "i love making GBS threads inside cum assholes" in my head for hours, and i would get really paranoid, start seeing things in the corners of my eyes etc, basically prodromal schizophrenia. im now on antipsychotics. i always wondered what the kind of "ironic" style of cspam humor was all about; i think it's the unconscious leaking in to the conscious, what jungian theory considered to be the cause of schizophrenic and schizotypal syptoms. i would advise all people who "post" Trump to be careful because that likely means you have a predisposition to a mental illness.

C-SPAM Mental Health & Depression Omnibus Thread

https://twitter.com/Papapishu/status/746803108949409793

what the gently caress is this lol

People come to cspam and especially the trump thread for the nihilistic lmaos but there's still a lot of deep anxiety, fear, and hurting behind those jokes. We're all trying to make sense of a completely senseless world that seems to be in its death throes. However, if you don't go further than posting the maniacal laughter of despair, there is a very good chance it will destroy you. Please do not do that. There is still life outside these forums. Some of it is still pretty nice.

okay so now what

Take inventory of the things in life that make you happy—stuff not related to the thread. If you find it lacking or (worse) don't care about what you have I highly recommend seeking support. I did not. Story about what catastrophe befell me will follow.

I expect the people who aren't coming in here to shitpost to be looking for help with depression. Consider if you have bipolar as well. If you've gone on repeated uncontrollable rampages of anger/shopping/sex/creativity, especially coupled with frequent insomnia, chances are very good you do. Treating bipolar with depression meds alone is a very bad idea so you'll want to be sure of that.

how to help

Here are some common modalities used to combat depression/anxiety/grief. If you decide on a treatment plan, you will most likely want a little bit of all of them.

Therapist: This is the cornerstone. A therapist will give you a safe space to vent where a single word will not breathed to anyone unless you literally say you have plans to kill yourself or someone else. They will probably be able to help with (healthy) coping strategies or life goals. In addition, many will be able to apply strategies like CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy) and the like to help with self defeating thought processes. Make sure they're licensed. You want either a licensed therapist, social worker, or psychologist. Everything else is probably garbage.

Psychiatrist: You may need pills. You may not. They will not rob you of a piece of yourself like you were lobotomized. They're not some evil horrific brainwashing attempt by the illuminati although some of the side effects are not fun, to say the least. It's also more of an art that a science and will take a few months of tinkering to find the right cocktail and there's a ton of different drugs for each category. A good psychiatrist will listen to you when you complain about side effects and ask about medications. They will then change or keep what you have based on feedback. If they just write a prescription, then tell you to shut the gently caress up the next time you see them because they know better, fire them immediately. Do not let your general practitioner handle meds. They're not qualified and will gently caress it up. If all you have is a GP then it's better than nothing, and some of them aren't terrible. Get a P-Doc if you can though. They have specialized knowledge and experience a GP won't, and it makes a huge difference.

Group Therapy: This has by far worked best for me. Basically, you get a bunch of people in the same room with the same problem with the understanding nothing said there leaves and get them talking about their experiences. It's incredibly liberating to see heads bob knowingly while you describe something you thought was a dark secret shame. Someone else has gone through it, too. You're not alone.

Meditation: Or mindfulness, or whatever. Get an app or just plop down somewhere and concentrate on your breathing for a while. It calms the mind, relaxes the body, and for those of you with bipolar, can stop the internal screaming for a little bit.

Nutrition: As dumb as it sounds, make sure you're eating regularly. This can be hard to remember to do during severe depression (or severe mania). Get enough calories and try to eat lots of protein and less sugar. Also, take 1g of fish oil/flaxseed oil and a multivitamin. It's good for you.

Sleep hygene: Only you can know how much you need and when. If you're dragging every day, you probably need more. On the other end of the spectrum is oversleeping. If you're waking up after 14 hours feeling gross then you definitely need to get moving and probably get more sunlight. Consider a HappyLight for 30 minutes a day if it's overcast or dark out. It makes a huge difference.

i'm broke and don't have health insurance

NAMI can provide group therapy. In addition, many places will have specific support groups going, i.e. depression, bipolar, autism, etc. Vet appropriately before attending. Flee immediately if anyone starts suggesting weird poo poo or pushing specific "therapists" on you.

Many communities will have sliding scale psychiatrists and therapists, it's just a matter of finding them. Also, the waiting list may be enormous. Still, it's better than nothing. Out of pocket everywhere else is expensive as poo poo but most places I've seen will cap it at $125 a visit and psych meds are cheap through GoodRX. It's still horrific but at least you won't be on the hook for thousands after going to a hospital.

cspam specific poo poo

For gods sake disclose all your illicit substances to your psychiatrist. They may disapprove but they won't refuse treatment or release that info to anyone. If you're smoking trees or shotgunning an entire bottle of jack each day they need to know so they don't put you on something that will kill you. I mean you shouldn't be doing that stuff in excess anyway, it's self medicating, but I'm not your mom so w/e

everything is awful get me off of this planet

Please do not commit suicide. Suicide sucks. Your last thoughts will be filled with regret: the people you're leaving behind, the life you could've had, the conditions that drove you to this point of incredible pain where there was only one way left. If you are feeling suicidal, call:

* Your therapst (if you have one)
* A close friend or family member (if you have one)
* The Suicide Prevention Hotline is always there for you.

If you have the insurance, go to a mental hospital immediately and request a voluntary stay. Most stays will last a week, and if you checked yourself in, you can check yourself out at any time (but don't do that). You can get a note at the end saying you were under medical care which will probably keep you from getting fired (but probably not paid either). If your company offers it and you can afford it, consider taking short term disability afterwards.

But, most importantly, just call someone. Reach out. Please.

hey guys i think i'm finally gonna troll the mental health thread, wish me luck

i expect a certain amount of shitposting and general cspam dumbassery and would be disappointed if we didn't get it. however please don't:

* refer to psychology as a "sham" science
* tell people all meds are terrible or to stop taking them (or not bother to start)
* make fun of anyone's mental illness (especially me you shitheads)
* post lol nothing matters and don't bother trying and bullshit like that
* generally be a dick towards anyone genuinely hurting and in need of help

I can't enforce anything but I'll probably complain to, idk, someone. They may not even be a mod, I'll just complain. then i'll probably lock the thread. I want this to be a good thread where good things happen so please do not do this.

ok post questions or w/e I'll do my best to answer them

PROTIP
dont read the news

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Former DILF: Jul 13, 2017

Chokes McGee posted:

This is an understandable concern but keep in mind literally no one needs to know if you don't want them to. Doctor/client privilege owns

Refusal to talk about it is a million times worse though you'll just rot inside until bad things happen

I�m satisfied with the bargain I�ve struck

# ? Feb 10, 2019 21:04

oystertoadfish: Jun 17, 2003

maker posted:

PROTIP
dont read the news

it can be a compulsion though, and consciously forcing yourself to not read the news can cause just as much anticipatory dread as actually reading the poo poo causes the normal kind

also personal rule: i never watch or listen to the news. i only read the news. written news is lovely enough already

for me there's a """""happy""""" medium where i read like 3 threads in here and look at the news as few times a day as i can. honestly i should just retreat back to only reading the happy thread, lord knows it's got enough depressing poo poo in it anyway

with all that said, i do find it hard to imagine there's a single person in cspam whose mental state wouldn't be improved by cutting down on their news intake. it's making me think that i'm probably overestimating the amount of news needed to get to my happy medium. if you can get to 0 good for you.

edit: also i dont want to talk too much about myself on the drat internet but im glad this thread exists. gallows humor has its place but i think it's obvious that most/all of us aren't very good at keeping a balance so it's good to reflect on occasion

oystertoadfish has issued a correction as of 21:30 on Feb 10, 2019

# ? Feb 10, 2019 21:23

bean mom: Jan 30, 2009

my hot take is that depression is the natural state of humans, and the non-depressed are the abberations.

I would say that only a very small minority of people are actually clinically non-depressed and the rest are pretending they are

# ? Feb 10, 2019 21:55

bean mom: Jan 30, 2009

Zyla posted:

my hot take is that depression is the natural state of humans, and the non-depressed are the abberations.

I would say that only a very small minority of people are actually clinically non-depressed and the rest are pretending they are

https://twitter.com/Chinchillazllla/status/1092689900103708672

# ? Feb 10, 2019 21:57

Willie Tomg: Feb 2, 2006

Zyla posted:

my hot take is that depression is the natural state of humans, and the non-depressed are the abberations.

I would say that only a very small minority of people are actually clinically non-depressed and the rest are pretending they are

imo this video remains the best of a very very very good series (rsa animate)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5um8QWWRvo

# ? Feb 10, 2019 22:00

Willie Tomg: Feb 2, 2006

also a very important part of dealing with my Bullshit was learning to differentiate the degree to which my brain was chronically failing to make happy chemicals (which is the case to an extent) and the degree to which i was genuinely surrounded by god-loving-awful people who say awful things and give awful advice and live in a morass of emotional garbage stinking and yelling and pulling everyone around them into the muck as well, and that maybe i sought out people like that because i believed that was the only quality of socialization i deserved and maybe Feeling Better would be aided by managing those contacts to a minimum.

# ? Feb 10, 2019 22:04

crazy cloud: Nov 7, 2012; by Cyrano4747; Lipstick Apathy

Zyla posted:

my hot take is that depression is the natural state of humans, and the non-depressed are the abberations.

I would say that only a very small minority of people are actually clinically non-depressed and the rest are pretending they are

david spade ]: i liked this hot take better the last time i heard it , when it was called ~~pearl jam~~the first noble truth

# ? Feb 10, 2019 22:06

net work error: Feb 26, 2011

Zyla posted:

my hot take is that depression is the natural state of humans, and the non-depressed are the abberations.

I would say that only a very small minority of people are actually clinically non-depressed and the rest are pretending they are

Yeah imagine being a normie lol.

# ? Feb 10, 2019 22:11

A Big Fuckin Hornet: Nov 1, 2016; by Nyc_Tattoo

Zyla posted:

my hot take is that depression is the natural state of humans, and the non-depressed are the abberations.

I would say that only a very small minority of people are actually clinically non-depressed and the rest are pretending they are

being a leftist in america means you are mentally ill and also objectively correct

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Stinky Wizzleteats: Nov 26, 2015

Glad you did this concept justice unlike my lovely thread that only served to display my personal crippling mental illness, op

# ? Feb 10, 2019 22:22

Chokes McGee: Aug 7, 2008; This is Urotsuki.

Willie Tomg posted:

also a very important part of dealing with my Bullshit was learning to differentiate the degree to which my brain was chronically failing to make happy chemicals (which is the case to an extent) and the degree to which i was genuinely surrounded by god-loving-awful people who say awful things and give awful advice and live in a morass of emotional garbage stinking and yelling and pulling everyone around them into the muck as well, and that maybe i sought out people like that because i believed that was the only quality of socialization i deserved and maybe Feeling Better would be aided by managing those contacts to a minimum.

eliminating toxic people from your life whenever possible is a p good idea op

# ? Feb 10, 2019 22:34

Kurtofan: Feb 16, 2011; hon hon hon

hello mentally ill buddies, i'm poster kurtofan and i have social anxiety

it sucks, i'm doing a therapy

# ? Feb 10, 2019 22:36

Chokes McGee: Aug 7, 2008; This is Urotsuki.

oystertoadfish posted:

it can be a compulsion though, and consciously forcing yourself to not read the news can cause just as much anticipatory dread as actually reading the poo poo causes the normal kind

also personal rule: i never watch or listen to the news. i only read the news. written news is lovely enough already

for me there's a """""happy""""" medium where i read like 3 threads in here and look at the news as few times a day as i can. honestly i should just retreat back to only reading the happy thread, lord knows it's got enough depressing poo poo in it anyway

with all that said, i do find it hard to imagine there's a single person in cspam whose mental state wouldn't be improved by cutting down on their news intake. it's making me think that i'm probably overestimating the amount of news needed to get to my happy medium. if you can get to 0 good for you.

edit: also i dont want to talk too much about myself on the drat internet but im glad this thread exists. gallows humor has its place but i think it's obvious that most/all of us aren't very good at keeping a balance so it's good to reflect on occasion

the hilarious thing is that OCD is co-morbid with depression/bipolar fairly often and checking the thread obsessively feeds that lmfao it's not hilarious at all

# ? Feb 10, 2019 22:39

Chokes McGee: Aug 7, 2008; This is Urotsuki.

Kurtofan posted:

hello mentally ill buddies, i'm poster kurtofan and i have social anxiety

it sucks, i'm doing a therapy

this reminds me of something, extroverts can still have social anxiety and i cannot imagine the amount of dread involved getting the energy back that you need :stonk:

# ? Feb 10, 2019 22:41

GWBBQ: Jan 2, 2005

Chokes McGee posted:

For gods sake disclose all your illicit substances to your psychiatrist. They may disapprove but they won't refuse treatment or release that info to anyone. If you're smoking trees or shotgunning an entire bottle of jack each day they need to know so they don't put you on something that will kill you. I mean you shouldn't be doing that stuff in excess anyway, it's self medicating, but I'm not your mom so w/e

Substance abuse is self-medicating for an underlying disorder in an unhealthy way, and it's usually because it's the easiest and most readily available way. There are alternatives and medical professionals can help you find them. I couldn't, in good conscience, recommend 12 step programs because I've had to attend AA/NA meetings for class assignments and those were among the most unbelievably uncomfortable experiences of my life; I was surrounded by people who ditched alcohol and drug addictions in favor of socially acceptable addictions like drinking 10 cups of coffee at 8PM and smoking 3/4 of a pack of cigarettes during a 10 minute break. It also didn't help that when they went around the room and I said that I was there for a class any not because I was an addict, the hosts said things like "are you sure? a lot of us used to say things like that."

Blanketspace posted:

I disagree with the anti GP prescribing psychiatric medication point, considering how less people have access to a psychiatrist than a general practitioner. Depression is both underdiagnosed and undertreated, people need whatever help they can get and doctors didn't go to med school for nothing, they can help.

A GP who cares about their patients can hep you immensely. I have sleep problems, high blood pressure, and a variety of other symptoms. After years of reflexively saying "no" when I described symptoms and he asked me if I felt depressed, I finally admitted that I did and he prescribed me Lexapro. That was on a Tuesday, and the next Thursday I woke up, got ready for work, and was on my way to the train when I realized I just felt normal. Waking up wasn't an ordeal, getting dressed wasn't an ordeal, and I just felt OK in general. He's also a 100% professional, no nonsense guy, so during the next visit when he asked how it was working, I admitted "I feel like I'm part of the way there but could be better, and my penis doesn't work." He thought for a moment, told me that since I was on the highest dose of Lexapro with no other side effects, he thought I would do well switching to Zoloft and asked me if I wanted to try it. Now I feel pretty good (but I think even normal people have down days,) and my penis is back in operation.

# ? Feb 10, 2019 23:06

Low Desert Punk: Jul 4, 2012; i have absolutely no fucking money

i had to stop drinking because it was murdering my stomach and the hangovers were loving my life up. I cant even smell whiskey without wanting to puke

I don't know how long-term alcoholics handle it. props to them

# ? Feb 10, 2019 23:07

A Big Fuckin Hornet: Nov 1, 2016; by Nyc_Tattoo

ive had multiple therapists/LMSWs who were all cool with weed tho

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Former DILF: Jul 13, 2017

A Big Fuckin Hornet posted:

being a leftist in america means you are mentally ill and also objectively correct

I dunno I think it�s more that they�re sad that they don�t have what it takes to succeed in this world, i.e., to become a predatory sociopath

# ? Feb 10, 2019 23:12

Former DILF: Jul 13, 2017

I stay sane by harming virtually everyone around me through subtle manipulation, but I�ve come to terms with my sadomasochism

# ? Feb 10, 2019 23:14

Call Your Grandma: Jan 17, 2010

Low Desert Punk posted:

my brains are irreparably broken lmao

# ? Feb 11, 2019 00:34

Chokes McGee: Aug 7, 2008; This is Urotsuki.

Former DILF posted:

I stay sane by harming virtually everyone around me through subtle manipulation, but I�ve come to terms with my sadomasochism

I can't tell if you're trolling or making a joke or what but uh

maybe don't do that and see someone about it

# ? Feb 11, 2019 00:44

Former DILF: Jul 13, 2017

I also take insane umbrage at the smallest perceived slight and let it fester until I can figure out some really nasty and underhanded way to get back at them

but in my defense, when I was 7 years old I was an excellent reader so my dad made me read The Prince by Machiavelli and I internalized a lot of its teachings, especially all the stuff about deception and vengeance

# ? Feb 11, 2019 01:07

Chokes McGee: Aug 7, 2008; This is Urotsuki.

Former DILF posted:

I also take insane umbrage at the smallest perceived slight and let it fester until I can figure out some really nasty and underhanded way to get back at them

but in my defense, when I was 7 years old I was an excellent reader so my dad made me read The Prince by Machiavelli and I internalized a lot of its teachings, especially all the stuff about deception and vengeance

please see a therapist

# ? Feb 11, 2019 01:14

Former DILF: Jul 13, 2017

later in my life i learned it was more likely a manual designed to provoke intense hatred of its practitioners, which frankly is a pretty great own by my dad

# ? Feb 11, 2019 01:17

Low Desert Punk: Jul 4, 2012; i have absolutely no fucking money

Former DILF posted:

later in my life i learned it was more likely a manual designed to provoke intense hatred of its practitioners, which frankly is a pretty great own by my dad

dad Machiavellian so what

# ? Feb 11, 2019 01:20

Zeroisanumber: Oct 23, 2010; Nap Ghost

Former DILF posted:

I also take insane umbrage at the smallest perceived slight and let it fester until I can figure out some really nasty and underhanded way to get back at them

but in my defense, when I was 7 years old I was an excellent reader so my dad made me read The Prince by Machiavelli and I internalized a lot of its teachings, especially all the stuff about deception and vengeance

Time to find a therapist.

# ? Feb 11, 2019 01:23

Zeroisanumber: Oct 23, 2010; Nap Ghost

SunAndSpring posted:

It feels cool having a degree and being on a job search for five months that has brought no fruit because none of the rare good-paying jobs that utilize that degree have ever bothered to interview me because they want more qualifications, and all the other jobs that at least will pay for rent and food will occasionally interview me and then decide I'm too qualified to be working there and then not give me the job. It rules, I love having to rely on a GoFundMe to pay the rent for the next few months, I love that I feel completely hopeless as to getting a job within that short time period, I love that when I complained about this a while back in another thread on here all the alleged socialists completely ignored me save for like one guy who tried to help but was in the wrong area to do so, god I just love everything.

My girlfriend is going through the same thing. She finished her PhD in March of last year and the only job she can get pays her a pittance to do something that she's great at. She's already talking about going back to get a JD so she can apply her PhD to something that will let her live above the poverty line.

I don't even know what to tell you other than that it sucks poo poo and that my girlfriend and I are already talking about moving so that she can find something better. The capitalist world is a hellworld and I hope you find a place in it that doesn't hurt.

# ? Feb 11, 2019 01:29

Former DILF: Jul 13, 2017

yeah probably but i live in america, nobody will look at me twice for being a scheming raptore

# ? Feb 11, 2019 01:29

Former DILF: Jul 13, 2017

i was thinking about going back to school to find some brilliant creative i can exploit

# ? Feb 11, 2019 01:30

Zeroisanumber: Oct 23, 2010; Nap Ghost

Former DILF posted:

yeah probably but i live in america, nobody will look at me twice for being a scheming raptore

I live in the US and although I have my problems I'm not living in a constant state of overactivity and drunkenness to cover up my crushing depression anymore.

Therapy helps. Please think about it.

# ? Feb 11, 2019 01:36

Former DILF: Jul 13, 2017

helps whom? is misery to cease when I am sated? will the world turn less cruelly when I want for little and settle for less still?

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# ? Feb 11, 2019 01:38

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# ? Apr 25, 2024 08:07

Chokes McGee: Aug 7, 2008; This is Urotsuki.

Former DILF posted:

helps whom? is misery to cease when I am sated? will the world turn less cruelly when I want for little and settle for less still?

please see a therapist

e: also you have one hell of a rap sheet :stare:

Chokes McGee has issued a correction as of 01:42 on Feb 11, 2019

# ? Feb 11, 2019 01:40

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