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DoubleDonut posted:I feel like this is a weird question for an adult to ask, but: How do I figure out if my insurance will cover a given therapist? My new job's insurance just kicked in and this is my first time not living in a small town where absolutely everyone nearby is covered by the only health insurance around, and I would prefer not to get owned by insurance network bullshit You call them, they run your card, and you go from there. In my case, the insurer referred me to providers who said my plan doesn’t cover anything and quoted me a 500 dollar initial appointment :v Somebody has issued a correction as of 18:37 on Apr 20, 2021 |
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Apr 15, 2021 23:26
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The people at the doctor's office will know for sure if they take your insurance, and many places will check before even letting you schedule an appointment.
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Apr 15, 2021 23:31
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Chuka Umana posted:I think I'm getting kinda terrified of psychiatrists now that I'm watching a bunch of Frontline stuff on the satanic abuse stuff in the 80s and the controversy over MPD and repressed memory theory. These were some of the premier psychiatrists in the world, and they believed that average people were programmed by satanic cults to have multiple personalities to be triggered like the Manchurian candidate!! We're told to be listening to the experts and the science!! The panic was kicked off by a book written by a woman who married the psychiatrist who treated her, and said husband's position was used to give it legitimacy. No way would poo poo like that fly today. Not to say psychiatry can't be used for misguided or sinister aims but these days I think the biggest problem is how it and psychology are getting more and more geared towards making people ignore (or be "mindful" of) the realities of hellworld and capitalism so they can keep the system running until it inevitably falls apart. And even that heavily depends on individual therapists. Seek help until you find one that works for you. AceOfFlames has issued a correction as of 10:11 on Apr 16, 2021 |
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Apr 16, 2021 10:03
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Chuka Umana posted:I really hope there isn't anything today that we'll look back on and think wtf were we doing? Almost certainly there is. The harmful things we're doing is just one aspect of this, but I wonder about what sort of poo poo we're just taking for granted that future generations will look back at in horror (if we survive that long). For example, it's not that long ago that it was just normal for everyone to walk around in constant agony as their teeth rotted out of their mouths. Attempts to deal with the lack of dental hygiene then made things worse instead of better, with people using acids and abrasives to strip the enamel of their teeth, and crudely operating on themselves without anesthetic.
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Apr 16, 2021 10:38
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Chuka Umana posted:I think I'm getting kinda terrified of psychiatrists now that I'm watching a bunch of Frontline stuff on the satanic abuse stuff in the 80s and the controversy over MPD and repressed memory theory. These were some of the premier psychiatrists in the world, and they believed that average people were programmed by satanic cults to have multiple personalities to be triggered like the Manchurian candidate!! We're told to be listening to the experts and the science!! yeah people are right to be afraid of psychiatry because its past was so barbaric and exemplified the worst parts of humanity. (just a quick shout out to freud who got blacklisted for saying maybe we should stop doing that poo poo and digging out people's brains and just listen to them for 10 minutes.) IIRC operation paperclip pulled a lot of nazi doctors as well which founded the APA with the help of pharmaceutical companies that of course were tied in with nazi pharma companies that produced the meth necessary for blitzkreigs. this is why governing bodys for psychotherapy are extremely big on boundaries/ethics/standards and stuff like that. they will take your license pretty quickly. i get a monthly newsletter and in the back you can look at the wall of shame and licenses get revoked or suspended for. most of them are DUI's though. you can also go to the gov website of your state and check the license of whoever you want to see if they've ever had any issues. i do this with whoever i see. this is for psychotherapists btw, not psychiatrists. MD's don't report to those governing bodies they "report" to the APA which is REALLY powerful. they are backed by and are in bed with pharma companies so psychiatrists can break rules all the time and are usually above reproach. it sucks but that's capitalism. therapists need to and should refer clients to MD"s often so we keep an eye out for the good ones which absolutely do exist. i uh....have also met a few who thought michael flynn was q and his son was the messiah...so... on the Frontline show though....you have to take into account the neoliberal capitalist perspective. capitalism is terrified of therapy because many people will end up realizing they are unhappy and hate their job and want to quit to do something that speaks to them. this is obviously antithetical to capitalist control over a population so Frontline has an interest in deterring anyone from bettering themselves mentally. But there is a group of people that management to escape the negative press from Frontline: life coaches. because by and large life coaches push people to Hustle and Flex That Side Gig and essentially keep working harder and harder. thehandtruck has issued a correction as of 19:55 on Apr 16, 2021 |
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Apr 16, 2021 19:40
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thehandtruck posted:because by and large life coaches push people to Hustle and Flex That Side Gig and essentially keep working harder and harder. Silver lining here is that that agenda will never work on a lazy prick like me lol
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Apr 16, 2021 23:16
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtnJ_4lndr0 Here is the Frontline documentary from 1995 that shook me so much. I think people should watch this and be mindful when seeing a psychiatrist. Again I'm not saying you shouldn't see a psychiatrist but you also shouldn't be uncritical to the stuff they say. They can easily lead you down a road to worse health so don't be afraid to push back. The same channel that was posted on also has a lot of other documentaries on MPD/repressed memory theory and the satanic abuse trials. Here's another Frontline doc on the criminal aspect of the panic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSLZQ9zXT38 tl;dr Janet Reno is pure evil and the courts places way too much power and authority in the hands of psychiatrists.
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Apr 17, 2021 02:25
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Consummate Professional posted:hey gang, just checking in and saying hi. Awesome stuff man! Identifying those frustrations really shows how tuned in you are to your surroundings right now. Sometimes you really do have to just wiggle your toes in the morning to really get that motivation going. It sounds like you're settling in great - don't hesitate to reach out if you need anything!
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Apr 17, 2021 02:36
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AceOfFlames posted:The panic was kicked off by a book written by a woman who married the psychiatrist who treated her, and said husband's position was used to give it legitimacy. No way would poo poo like that fly today. If you want to listen to two journalists go through Michelle Remembers and talk about the Satanic Panic in general, the podcast You're Wrong About did a deep four episode dive of the novel - https://www.buzzsprout.com/1112270/3883895-quarantine-book-club-michelle-remembers-week-1 To be honest, the evil of psychiatrists is much more banal and human - people just cashing in a paycheck, bigotry and biases, pushing medication they get kickbacks on, and just not giving a poo poo.
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Apr 17, 2021 02:40
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Chuka Umana posted:Here is the Frontline documentary from 1995 that shook me so much. I think people should watch this and be mindful when seeing a psychiatrist. Again I'm not saying you shouldn't see a psychiatrist but you also shouldn't be uncritical to the stuff they say. They can easily lead you down a road to worse health so don't be afraid to push back. Vetting a doctor is always crucial, but please try to work with your doctor first. You'll know if they're ignoring you or forcing you down uncomfortable roads, in which case you can fire them and try something else. Never forget that a doctor is a service provider. Also I'm pretty sure no one jabs a huge needle into your frontal lobes and scrapes it clean these days, ethics in psychiatric medicine honestly have as much in common with 50-100 years ago as the four humors do to today's medicine. On a related note, this whole line of dialogue is dangerously close to "I'm just asking questions here." Please be mindful of the road this leads down and avoid it if possible.
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Apr 17, 2021 04:49
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Chokes McGee posted:Also I'm pretty sure no one jabs a huge needle into your frontal lobes and scrapes it clean these days, ethics in psychiatric medicine honestly have as much in common with 50-100 years ago as the four humors do to today's medicine. My psychiatric care involved drilling a hole in the side of my head and sticking a straw inside to suck the juice out. Last decade. The surgeons were a little too excited to have a reason to break out the really wild poo poo. And it worked really well.
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Apr 17, 2021 10:31
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At a bare minimum just find somebody you can talk to about anything. It doesn't even need to be a therapist or doctor. Humans need to speak to other humans to process the poo poo we go through.
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Apr 17, 2021 16:55
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samantonio posted:just find somebody you can talk to about anything lol
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Apr 17, 2021 18:15
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endlessmonotony posted:My psychiatric care involved drilling a hole in the side of my head and sticking a straw inside to suck the juice out. Last decade. Never said medical science didn't have some wild poo poo in its playbook. just, y'know, they're not doing it based on some wild rear end guess on how the body works. Presumably.
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Apr 17, 2021 18:42
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indigi posted:lol Why? It's extremely good advice.
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Apr 17, 2021 18:43
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Chokes McGee posted:Why? It's extremely good advice. Kinda difficult to accomplish with C-SPAM brain. I've got half a dozen people like that and I'm extremely good at posting a lot and without care.
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Apr 17, 2021 20:24
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Chokes McGee posted:Why? It's extremely good advice. if I were depressed I would simply find someone I trust enough to be vulnerable with who wanted to listen. it’s easy peasy, they practically grow on trees!
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Apr 17, 2021 20:28
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Chokes McGee posted:
My dude this was in the 1990s. People still believe in MPD (as depicted in popular media like Sybil or the United States of Tara)/repressed memory theory even though it's been thoroughly discredited.
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Apr 17, 2021 22:19
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indigi posted:if I were depressed I would simply find someone I trust enough to be vulnerable with who wanted to listen. it’s easy peasy, they practically grow on trees! They're called therapists tho Chuka Umana posted:My dude this was in the 1990s. Some people still believe the earth is flat. Damning all of psychiatry based on some idiots is... unhelpful at best. Anyway this has crossed a line for me and I would appreciate it if you dropped it for the good of the thread. Chokes McGee has issued a correction as of 23:20 on Apr 17, 2021 |
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Apr 17, 2021 23:17
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Chokes McGee posted:They're called therapists tho did you even read the original quote? it was specifically not about therapists
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Apr 18, 2021 05:34
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indigi posted:did you even read the original quote? it was specifically not about therapists I don't even read my own posts
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Apr 18, 2021 07:15
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indigi posted:lol And what is funny about this?
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Apr 18, 2021 09:54
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Chokes McGee posted:I don't even read my own posts 
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Apr 18, 2021 13:27
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samantonio posted:And what is funny about this? it’s simplistic and laughable
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Apr 18, 2021 17:15
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indigi posted:it’s simplistic and laughable Uh yea, I said at a bare minimum. Like, if you can't get a therapist, at the very least find someone else to open up to. It's intended to be simplistic. What's wrong with that?
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Apr 18, 2021 18:32
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indigi posted:it’s simplistic and laughable stop
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Apr 18, 2021 18:37
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samantonio posted:Uh yea, I said at a bare minimum. Like, if you can't get a therapist, at the very least find someone else to open up to. It's intended to be simplistic. What's wrong with that? eh. the reason why a lot of people (including me) are having problems is because of a lack of real-world community and human connections, with no or daunting answers on how to reconnect them. it's good advice but it's hard
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Apr 18, 2021 18:38
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i say swears online posted:eh. the reason why a lot of people (including me) are having problems is because of a lack of real-world community and human connections, with no or daunting answers on how to reconnect them. it's good advice but it's hard Agreed; I don't blame anyone for feeling helpless or stuck in a corner when they're asked to just "find someone". It can be extremely difficult to extend trust or an olive branch when you've been burned so many times. I've learned to twist that burning process into something positive, and use it as a way of gauging my growth by trying measuring my ability to stay resilient.
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Apr 18, 2021 18:47
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Conversely, if you never reach out to people, it is impossible to form connections. The best garauntee of continuing the problem is to do nothing to solve it. It may be simplistic, it may be hard, but you still have to do it to expect change.
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Apr 18, 2021 19:04
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Cool, cool. Place my wife and I was nearby yesterday had a mass shooter event this morning. Cool, really super cool country we have.
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Apr 18, 2021 19:09
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Zil posted:Cool, cool. Place my wife and I was nearby yesterday had a mass shooter event this morning. oh gods are you in austin if so that shooting is like 5 minutes from me sup america hell state buddy 
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Apr 18, 2021 19:21
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Chokes McGee posted:oh gods are you in austin sup, glad you are doing well and hope everyone in your family is also.
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Apr 18, 2021 19:23
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man this country loving sucks.
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Apr 18, 2021 19:24
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i've been to that apartment complex a hundred times, insane
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Apr 18, 2021 19:43
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this toxic positivity “just make friends!!” bullshit with zero elaboration or context is unhelpful. e: if people want this thread to just have Instagram physical trainer-level mental health discourse I guess that’s fine but someone should probably rename it. drink more water! go for a walk! pet a dog! (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) indigi has issued a correction as of 00:41 on Apr 19, 2021 |
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Apr 19, 2021 00:35
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indigi posted:this toxic positivity “just make friends!!” bullshit with zero elaboration or context is unhelpful. quote:e: if people want this thread to just have Instagram physical trainer-level mental health discourse I guess that’s fine but someone should probably rename it. drink more water! go for a walk! pet a dog! you know that that is not what this thread actually is. if you don't like that someone is mildly more optimistic than you, ignore and move on.
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Apr 19, 2021 01:00
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indigi posted:this toxic positivity “just make friends!!” bullshit with zero elaboration or context is unhelpful. Yeah no, we're not doing this. Take a break.
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Apr 19, 2021 01:28
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indigi posted:this toxic positivity “just make friends!!” bullshit with zero elaboration or context is unhelpful. stay hydrated bestie 🥺🥺🥺
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Apr 19, 2021 02:26
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whoops wrong thread
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Apr 19, 2021 04:01
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Hey sorry that got you probed, not my intent with my responses. And not to beat a dead horse here but I feel I need to clarify: Having a support group of a few people I can turn to to talk has been a solid foundation for me now that I'm out of therapy. They aren't therapists (well my mom is), but mainly just like two friends that I know I can trust to talk to about anything without them judging or condemning me for what I say. It's something we worked on towards the end of my CBT as I was developing a success plan for leaving therapy. But in my experience it doesn't even always need to be someone you know. Just being a person who listens to someone else who you may notice is going through a rough time is HUGE for that person and sharing your own similar experience usually allows them to open up more and share deeper which in turn shows how similar we are all. We're all struggling with something but we don't know that if we're shut off from others. Each of us can be someone who helps another soul, and sometimes that's the best way to help yourself. Not always, but it may help.
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Apr 19, 2021 04:12
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