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i guess the line for me is if you are able to create an audience (and therefore generate income) around you doing it, then its a professional activity. if theres no way to make it profitable then yeah its just self justification
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marijuanamancer posted:i guess the line for me is if you are able to create an audience (and therefore generate income) around you doing it, then its a professional activity. if theres no way to make it profitable then yeah its just self justification doing a recreational activity professionally doesn't make it a "sport". otherwise cam girls would be sex sportmen
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Feb 23, 2019 02:38
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marijuanamancer posted:i guess the line for me is if you are able to create an audience (and therefore generate income) around you doing it, then its a professional activity. if theres no way to make it profitable then yeah its just self justification nobody says that they aren't professional at whatever they do, they make a living, but its still a video game and not a sport, which are two different things in a lot of fundamental and important ways
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Feb 23, 2019 02:42
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Rutibex posted:doing a recreational activity professionally doesn't make it a "sport". otherwise cam girls would be sex sportmen They just need to be sponsored by a real corporation and have some kind of stats involved, and there you have the most progressive sport.
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Feb 23, 2019 03:11
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Rutibex posted:doing a recreational activity professionally doesn't make it a "sport". otherwise cam girls would be sex sportmen Competitive camgirling should be a sport. Performance is, obviously, judged by views, likes, and wishlist donation numbers. Do you go for mass appeal, or take a chance and do something niche to try and rope in a few weirdos with very specific tastes who'll spend thousands?
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Feb 23, 2019 03:35
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imagine living in a world where you can know, with completely certainty, just how many people are staring at your tits
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Feb 23, 2019 03:36
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OMFG FURRY posted:imagine living in a world where you can know, with completely certainty, just how many people are staring at your tits Gotta subtract the guys only there hoping you'll show feet.
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Feb 23, 2019 03:38
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There's a lovely netflix movie where these cam girls have rankings and get all jealous of each other and what not.
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Feb 23, 2019 04:08
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vyst posted:There's a lovely netflix movie where these cam girls have rankings and get all jealous of each other and what not. Do they have cam-fights? Does the winner get the loser's followers and powers through lightning that shoots out of her webcam?
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Feb 23, 2019 04:17
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They're called e-sports, not sports, so I think you guys are having a crisis of definition over nothing
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Feb 23, 2019 09:16
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i think the definition of what an e-sport is is still pretty young and not confined to what's been established by physical sports
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Feb 23, 2019 09:30
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video games already had a perfectly good name though, it was video games. whats wrong with being a professional gamer? Why do you have to be cyber athlete? "E sports" as a term was obviously just invented by some marketing company anyway so they could like, sell call of duty.
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Feb 23, 2019 09:42
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counter-strike rules that alll ive got to say but im not about to watch some other nerds play it whilst i could be playing it myself
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Feb 23, 2019 10:26
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Lambert posted:Same, but sports fans. I would trust the average sports fan not to be a dumbass far more often than anyone calling themselves a Gamer having listened to both groups go on.
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Feb 23, 2019 23:06
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LethalGeek posted:I would trust the average sports fan not to be a dumbass far more often than anyone calling themselves a Gamer having listened to both groups go on. 
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Feb 23, 2019 23:19
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Caesar Saladin posted:i dunno, the whole idea of being like "video games are sports and also are just as legit as chess" just seems like some strange self justification, like trying to convince the world all of those hours in skyrim were actually spent doing something that should be recognised by society in the same way athletes and chess grandmasters are Why are chess grand masters fine but not champions of video games that have way, way more players than chess and are way more difficult?
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Feb 23, 2019 23:27
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empty whippet box posted:Why are chess grand masters fine but not champions of video games that have way, way more players than chess and are way more difficult? Source?
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I was listening to an interview with a baseball agent who has said some of the problems in baseball that are likely to lead to a work stoppage make him want to get out. The host asked where he'd go and he said he's trying to get into e-sports, because it's such an area to pioneer in and there's no players' union. That's when it hit my why all of this money is being poured into it. It's not unlike youth sports where the talent kind of trains and ranks itself, but the barriers to recruiting them to a team are so much lower, and you don't owe them anything.
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Feb 23, 2019 23:42
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If your really good at Battle Chess does that make you a grand master, or an e-athlete? both?
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Feb 23, 2019 23:56
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empty whippet box posted:Why are chess grand masters fine but not champions of video games that have way, way more players than chess and are way more difficult? what? i just don't want chess players to call themselves "athletes," which they do not. Also chess is harder than video games, obviously.
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Feb 24, 2019 00:08
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Pinecone Sample posted:I was listening to an interview with a baseball agent who has said some of the problems in baseball that are likely to lead to a work stoppage make him want to get out. "These athletes are way too empowered, time to take advantage of some loving nerds"
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Feb 25, 2019 02:51
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Lol imagine getting so upset about the sanctity of the word "sport" itt.
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Feb 25, 2019 03:30
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imagine trying to call games "sports" because you're somehow embarrassed that you play video games, even though you love them
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Feb 25, 2019 03:34
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Jesustheastronaut! posted:Lol imagine getting so upset about the sanctity of the word "sport" itt. what video game do you try to play professionally?
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Feb 25, 2019 03:36
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is shuffleboard a sport
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Feb 25, 2019 03:36
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numberoneposter posted:is shuffleboard a sport no, but valve's shuffleboard simulator is
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Feb 25, 2019 03:37
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Lol it's okay, better luck next time, sport. When is your bitch of a mother coming to pick you up this weekend, sport?
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Feb 25, 2019 03:39
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is waterboarding a sport???
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Feb 25, 2019 03:40
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people were playing fighting games 'professionally' for years and none of them called it a sport because they knew it was video games which are a different thing, the term "esport" was invented to market a competitive counterstrike league
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Feb 25, 2019 03:51
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you cant deny the logo is sweet tho i dont follow any of that poo poo though, csgo is like the only game i play so im just aware of it through osmosis
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Feb 25, 2019 04:24
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They should be called iSports
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Feb 25, 2019 04:27
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Caesar Saladin posted:people were playing fighting games 'professionally' for years and none of them called it a sport because they knew it was video games which are a different thing, the term "esport" was invented to market a competitive counterstrike league Wrong, LoL and DOTA2 are way bigger than counterstrike even though the old CAL leagues outdate both.
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Feb 25, 2019 05:03
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down n out posted:Wrong, LoL and DOTA2 are way bigger than counterstrike even though the old CAL leagues outdate both. oh well, either way, its dumb marketing with the attempt to make video games seem more like sports so that advertisers take them more seriously
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Feb 25, 2019 05:06
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I agree, bringing giant sponsors and investment groups into video games is poison for what amounts to a competitive weekend among enthusiasts.
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Feb 25, 2019 05:16
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This discussion has just further convinced me that these terms are all merely marketing buzzwords that are slapped on to different games to appeal to a specific demographic or sponsor. A game's a game. Let's just all get out there and have fun, do our best, and slap some rear end
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Feb 25, 2019 05:25
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:Will the headsets also cause brain damage? Considering the behavior of most esports players off-stream is what it is, I’d say that’s basically a given I mean just look at ls coach
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Feb 25, 2019 05:32
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How about that Toronto Defiant tonight, huh? And the fuckin' Dragons breaking their losing streak?! Wow! Shame they couldn't sweep, though. Boston really held tight on that last defense.
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Feb 25, 2019 05:34
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But really folks, let's get somebody to take the Gladiators out back and turn the hose on. Surefour looks like he is developing a crust. Also can we talk about how handsome Paris eternal tank Benbest is?
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numberoneposter posted:you cant deny the logo is sweet tho I remember call of duty overtaking cs like 16 years ago. Is the counterstrike community really that resilient after all these years. Keep in mind I know nothing of online gaming tournaments. But I remember being 14 and a few dudes liked cs and then being 18 and everyone loved cod.
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Counterstrike is actually watchable. Call of Duty is a fuckfest.
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