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Okay so maybe now it’s a bigger disaster than Bloodlines 1
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Bloodlines Forever!mysterious frankie posted:I have this superstition that, since I turned 40 in December, it’s only a matter of time before a bit flips and I start referring to all games as “The Nintendo” with derision, then shortly thereafter die of a stroke. 
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Kavak posted:I'm terrified what Millennials are going to be like when they reach Medicare age. Probably very grumpy, because they’ll still be waiting for Bloodlines 2 to come out. Poil posted:Bloodlines Forever! Fortunately(?) I steadfastly dislike everything, so I have no good ol days.
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Zeta Acosta posted:Just remake the original or pay the dudes who made coteries of new York so they can put images on that vampire driver game. What a loving mess
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Rogue AI Goddess posted:Give it to ZA/UM. I want their Thought Cabinet artist/s on the next Wraith thing no matter what it is.
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El_Elegante posted:Too bad there won’t be a leaked alpha I wouldn't put money on that either way, honestly...
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Someone somewhere is offering Brian Mitsoda a lot of money* to come back and help out just to get SOME good press *Not actually a lot of money
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Rogue AI Goddess posted:Give it to ZA/UM. TBF the whole make up of Vamp could work very well in that style.
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Kuiperdolin posted:Conversation with THE BEAST, HUNGER, HUMANITY and THE MASQUERADE. THE HUNGER being the equivalent of Electrochemistry following you around and trying to get you to shove everything up your nose/bite every neck you see would be gold.
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disco elysium is actually a very good model to base tabletop settings off of if you're going the videogame route which is why it will never happen and also this game is dead so who cares
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God, I can't even imagine just how dire things must have been to throw out the entire studio like that. At this point I'm half convinced they had nothing working beyond the demo they've shown.
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Perestroika posted:God, I can't even imagine just how dire things must have been to throw out the entire studio like that. At this point I'm half convinced they had nothing working beyond the demo they've shown. Everything they showed was rear end so maybe this is for the better
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Reform Troika and let them finish the game.
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ZearothK posted:Reform Troika and let them finish the game. But they didn’t finish the first one!
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Just say gently caress it and bring in Deep Silver Volition to make Vampire's Row: Bloodlines.
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Kavak posted:Has Paradox said when they're announcing a new developer or if that's even in the near future?
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The game will now be a pro wrestling game where your play exclusively as David "Gangrel" Heath.
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Angry Lobster posted:Just say gently caress it and bring in Deep Silver Volition to make Vampire's Row: Bloodlines. Freespace: the Masquerade  Anyhow, I think Volition are an Embracer/THQ Nordic thing, and therefore Paradox's sworn mortal enemies and rivals in the Swedish Publisher Thunderdome.
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I thought the E3 footage looked really rough but I never expected this. 
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Perestroika posted:God, I can't even imagine just how dire things must have been to throw out the entire studio like that. At this point I'm half convinced they had nothing working beyond the demo they've shown. They have a new developer they are working out contracts with, supposedly. If that's true, they may have gotten someone who actually knows how to make a game to finish development. If it's not true, it's either dead or Cyanide, at which point the game would be better off dead.
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GhostDog posted:Left field option: partner with Microsoft and give it to Obsidian with support from Arkane. i heard rumors microsoft is looking at buying paradox to make their PC market better. so maybe it will happen. Perestroika posted:God, I can't even imagine just how dire things must have been to throw out the entire studio like that. At this point I'm half convinced they had nothing working beyond the demo they've shown. all the biggish AA/smallish AAA studios are on loving fire https://twitter.com/MckKirk/status/1364227881572978693 . CDPR had the same issues but managed to make a solid game still so i can't imagine how bad it is for these poor fuckers. i am curious to hear the horror stories that come out.
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Angry Lobster posted:Just say gently caress it and bring in Deep Silver Volition to make Vampire's Row: Bloodlines. Bloodlines: The Curse of Vampire's Cry, published by TopWare
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Edmund Lava posted:Vampire: Bloodlines II - Okay so maybe now it’s a bigger disaster than Bloodlines 1
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Nearly every game studio the pay is way shitter then you get for programming in other sectors and a lot of people are noticing and leaving.
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A big part of the problem is game prices have been stuck at $60 for 20+ years
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LionYeti posted:Nearly every game studio the pay is way shitter then you get for programming in other sectors and a lot of people are noticing and leaving.
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Zephro posted:A big part of the problem is game prices have been stuck at $60 for 20+ years Says $60 in 1995 is $103 today, and that's only to keep up with inflation. The scope and workload for an AAA game has absolutely exploded since the days when Goldeneye was cutting edge edit: and I bet the kind of super-aggressive discounting pioneered by steam means a lot sales happen at some fraction of RRP anyway Zephro fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Feb 23, 2021 |
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Zephro posted:A big part of the problem is game prices have been stuck at $60 for 20+ years This is complete bullshit. The issue isn't that games don't make enough money, it's that the money they make doesn't go to the people who make them. Stop repeating Bobby Kotick rear end corporate propaganda.
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Vince MechMahon posted:This is complete bullshit. The issue isn't that games don't make enough money, it's that the money they make doesn't go to the people who make them. Stop repeating Bobby Kotick rear end corporate propaganda.
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$60 almost never buys you a full game any more with requisite DLC, season passes, microtransactions etc. And games are a billion dollar industry where all the money gets funneled up towards C suite executive assholes. The average customer does not need to pay more to ensure games are properly funded.
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UnknownMercenary posted:$60 almost never buys you a full game any more with requisite DLC, season passes, microtransactions etc. The fact is the RRP has roughly halved in real terms even as dev budgets have ballooned and team sizes have gone up by 1-2 orders of magnitude. Almost everything else I can think of has got more expensive since 1995, it would be odd if games being an exception somehow had no effect at all. The Bobby Koticks of this world should certainly take a pay cut and spend it on paying devs more, but $40m is like $4,000 per A/B employee which I somehow don't think is enough to make up the pay differential with Microsoft by itself, and therefore doesn't seem like it would actually fix the problem. Zephro fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Feb 23, 2021 |
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