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citybeatnik posted:TS:V are also presented as chronically underfunded and their tech can gently caress up in hilarious ways - such as taking guns that only fire at targets with lower then human body temperature on to a place where it was hot enough that the tech went "nope warm bodies can't shoot". Yeah, there's that hilarious blurb (And picture, if I recall.) where the badass black ops hunters chase a vampire into a freezer. They got him now! Except the ambient temperature is so low that whatever sensor inside their guns reads the temperature, then compares it with the the vampire's and says "Yeah, this guy is okay, alive, and is certainly not about to rip someone apart.". Cue the soldiers pulling the trigger, nothing happening, and them presumably cursing overdesigned MIC/tech division guns before they get ripped to shreds. Also, yeah, the Union are also great. Blue collar workers and labor unions meets hunters + hunters that have experience in mechanical labor jobs = a bunch of hunters that will look at the nearest monstrous bastard ruining their community and get together after beers to turn a bulldozer into some sort of hosed up frankendozer/killdozer monster killing machine. Turns out that all the super strength in the world ain't going to punch through several inches of steel armor plating welded onto a construction machine. Meanwhile, it's fully capable of punching through them.  And that's if they don't just get the rest of the fella's in the local Union together to demonstrate why communal action trumps individual superpowers in the WoD's. I think VASCU is my favorite though. Archonex fucked around with this message at 08:48 on Feb 5, 2021 |
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Taintrunner posted:Wait. Werewolf Earthblood is a WoD game in the same universe as Bloodlines? It's based on Werewolf the Apocalypse, a White Wolf game that happens in the same world of darkness setting as Vampire the Masquerade. No idea if the games interact at all.
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I skimmed the PC Gamer review and apparently you're a werewolf who rips apart all of the fracking sites of the Rotting Rapist in Chief? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTK542MJZMk
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Captain Monkey posted:The entire point of the oWoD is that it was doomed and flawed. You can dislike it all you want, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong in my interpretation. oWoD, to my mind, was geared towards the age of it's audience, and kind of grew up with them. 1st edition games: Young teenagers. The themes are that you're this helpless little fish in a big scary world, the structures and institutions of society are all-powerful, all-knowing, monolithic and solidly arrayed against you, but you and a bunch of like-minded friends, all rebelling in the same basic way, can fight against them while still benefitting from them, and they're kind of paternalistically trying to co-op you. 1E Mage had the Technocracy as the all-seeing panopticon that ruled the world, Vampire had the elders as secretly ruling entire countries and global industries, and so on. 2nd edition games: Late teenagers. You know what? It's not that bad. You can carve your own space out in the world. Turns out mommy and daddy fight sometimes, and you can play them against each other. The elders are just as petty as everybody else, and their authority is a lot less absolute than you thought. Elders don't run countries, but they do influence politics. The Technocracy doesn't rule the world absolutely; it just looked that way until you really started examining it. You've figured out how 'your world' works, which isn't to say the world; you're the king of high school, or you've figured out university, and you figure that's all there is to know. The world is yours to take, the elders/technocracy/whatever don't really know, but you do, because you're young, hip, and know how to use technology. Gehenna/The Apocalpyse/whatever? Sure, it's coming eventually, but people have been saying that forever, and what do they know? Rev edition games: early adult hood. Oh poo poo, the world as you know it really is ending. The world outside really is dark, scary, unfathomable, and doesn't care about you. Suddenly nobody is helping you, and you have to sink or swim on your own. Nothing you do will change anything. It's nice to fantasize about changing the world, but at the end of the day, nothing will ever be the same, and you'll have to sacrifice your childhood, which is to say your entire life, and hope it all works out OK. 20th Anniversary games: all grown up. You know what? It wasn't that bad. The world didn't really end. No, you can't remake the world, but you can sure as poo poo work to make things better. Yeah, things suck, but that just leads to the question: what are you doing to make things better? Yes, major institutions have come and gone, there's been massive upheaval, things aren't the same, but hey, that's life, that's growth, and that's how change works.
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Archonex posted:I mean, if any company was going to come up with this as an invention it'd be Endron or whatever V5 Werewolf's equivalent is. I think what always bugged me about this setting is that the enemies are literally lifted out of a particularly bad Captain Planet episode. Pure greed as a profit motive works just fine for smashing the environment, and it’s a lot more relatable.
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Rhymenoserous posted:I think what always bugged me about this setting is that the enemies are literally lifted out of a particularly bad Captain Planet episode. Pure greed as a profit motive works just fine for smashing the environment, and it’s a lot more relatable. Yeah I like the implication that a non-Pentex oil fracking site would be a lower priority target despite the environmental damage.
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Kavak posted:Yeah I like the implication that a non-Pentex oil fracking site would be a lower priority target despite the environmental damage. To be fair, I do sort of recall that there is an explanation for this. The board of Pentex is headed up by a Malkavian. Wyrm corruption also tends to make you become mentally ill at the high end, from what I recall. And I don't mean normally mentally ill. I mean it will drive you nucking futs, screaming and trying to skitter up the wall, gibbering to yourself and eating your fingers sorts of crazy. Alternatively, i've misremembered it and it's the rear end in a top hat Malkavian that worships the Wyrm that is responsible. Though walking the Black Spiral Labyrinth definitely does...things to a werewolf, so  .Seeing as how the company is basically the primary purveyor of apocalyptic agendas of the wyrm on the planet among humans, this means that ironically the Malkavian, IE: the clan that thinks madness is good is working overtime to keep these crazy bastards from self destructing and probably taking the entire company down with them. Couple this with a heavy dose of spite at the world (Imagine, for instance, if the Koch Brothers were murderously offended that the world and life itself would proceed onwards after they passed away due to old age and tried to kill everything else via climate change.) and you have a recipe for plans that make even Captain Planet villains tell the bad guys to chill out. Archonex fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Feb 5, 2021 |
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Oh no there's an entire board of assholes leading Pentex, the Malkavian is just one of them.
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What gets me is that the whole "Kill Gaia" thing has to hit the bottom line at some point- spilling so much oil is lost product and profit, blowing the entire quarter's budget on silver weapons, etc. Is there a timetable where Earth dies just before they file Chapter 11?
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Kavak posted:What gets me is that the whole "Kill Gaia" thing has to hit the bottom line at some point- spilling so much oil is lost product and profit, blowing the entire quarter's budget on silver weapons, etc. Is there a timetable where Earth dies just before they file Chapter 11? Pentex is one of the largest, if not the largest multinational megacorps in the WoD with dozens of subsidiary companies. They have a hand in everything from pharmaceuticals to major grocery/retail chains to military aircraft/missiles. If Endron spills a bunch of oil and loses profit/product it's bad for Endron internally but for Pentex as a whole it's a minor problem since their holdings are so diversified.
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PantsOptional posted:Pentex is one of the largest, if not the largest multinational megacorps in the WoD with dozens of subsidiary companies. They have a hand in everything from pharmaceuticals to major grocery/retail chains to military aircraft/missiles. If Endron spills a bunch of oil and loses profit/product it's bad for Endron internally but for Pentex as a whole it's a minor problem since their holdings are so diversified. Yeah but every single subsidiary and component does stuff like that, it has to add up at some point.
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 they fridge the daughter and in cutscenes her model isn't even really part of the fomori-thing she's merged with, you can see the top band of her underwear so she's only connected below the waist if at all. This game is so dumb.
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Kavak posted:What gets me is that the whole "Kill Gaia" thing has to hit the bottom line at some point- spilling so much oil is lost product and profit, blowing the entire quarter's budget on silver weapons, etc. Is there a timetable where Earth dies just before they file Chapter 11? I think according to W20 they're basically planning to build large glass eco-bubbles to move the executives into around the time the rest of the planet starts running out of oxygen.
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Rand Brittain posted:I think according to W20 they're basically planning to build large glass eco-bubbles to move the executives into around the time the rest of the planet starts running out of oxygen. I like that, appropriately supervillain.
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considering the ice caps are literally melting and far right maga hogs are still trying to drill for oil and loosen emissions regs and trying to push propaganda that its actually the jew space lasers that are lighting the forests on fire there is no more room for subtlety in fiction
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Phobophilia posted:like rolling coal is a thing your average chud has within their budget and means it literally destroys their engine how is that not within pentex wheelhouse
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8nZvhHcBYE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8nZvhHcBYE as expected. the werewolf rpg isnt that great or good.
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Got the other werewolf game heart of the forest in the most recent humble bundle will report back.
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TheCenturion posted:oWoD, to my mind, was geared towards the age of it's audience, and kind of grew up with them. Definitely agreed. And having been at those age groups as they were released, it resonated with me in a way bad fiction often does with nerdy teens. And Archaeopteryx can love Lost-style two inch depth mystery box stories all they want, but I’m definitely not reading their 2 page screed about why that makes them better than me lmao.
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Southpaugh posted:Got the other werewolf game heart of the forest in the most recent humble bundle will report back. I played through it and it's neat but it took me 80 minutes to finish a playthrough. Seems like there's some variance depending on the choices you make but I cant imagine there's more than 3-4 hours of content in it overall. I've also played through VTM: Night Road, and I can't recommend that game enough. It's a lot more barren in it's presentation than the other WoD visual novels, but it has a fairly interesting cast of characters, and it feels like the character you build actually changes the game quite a bit. There's also a full stat, hunger and humanity systems, so it really scratched that bloodlines itch.
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Apologies if this is the wrong thread for this; I've had the mighty urge to play the original, again, recently. Is there any meaningful difference between the GOG/Steam versions and if so which is the one I should go with? And what's the current suggested/must-have list of mods and fan-patches?
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I have come across a mod for Crusader Kings 3 called Princes of Darkness. I only saw a little of it, but it seemed like a pretty interesting take on the world of darkness, since CK2/3 are about plotting and scheming and what have you. Any experience or opinions on that one? Is it a work in progress or completed? I might end up buying CK3 just for that mod some day. There is a version for CK2 also.
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SlightlyMad posted:I have come across a mod for Crusader Kings 3 called Princes of Darkness. I only saw a little of it, but it seemed like a pretty interesting take on the world of darkness, since CK2/3 are about plotting and scheming and what have you. Any experience or opinions on that one? Is it a work in progress or completed? I might end up buying CK3 just for that mod some day. There is a version for CK2 also. You have to feed for it, and more than half the time feeding just doesn't work so you eventually run out of blood. I'm sure this will be fixed eventually, but as of last time I tried it (a week ago) it was inevitable.
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New Dev Updatequote:Good morning, everyone
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AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA HOLY poo poo AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH WHAT THE gently caress AHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Games > Vampire: Bloodlines II - Now more of a disastrous development than Bloodlines 1
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This game is going to be the duke nukem forever of janky rpgs
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"yeah we're starting over" isn't the best impression to give
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This game is now a sunk cost and they should just kill it already.
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Time to put all their eggs in the Vampire - Swansong basket that's still in development. At least an episodic Telltale-esque game on a smaller scale sounds like it has less scope to gently caress up. I've mentioned in the thread before that The Council by the same developers was an interesting game that shat itself midway through so there's the possibility for the developers to improve. Boogle posted:This game is now a sunk cost and they should just kill it already. The revival of the old WoD is kinda that as a whole, yeah, it's been a debacle at almost every turn. bewilderment fucked around with this message at 08:56 on Feb 23, 2021 |
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what the gently caress they don't even know who is developing this???
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The game is in development but there's nobody developing the game. Cool.
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bewilderment posted:The revival of the old WoD is kinda that as a whole, yeah, it's been a debacle at almost every turn. That's not my impression at all. Sure the V5 thing was a petty high profile disaster but that was years ago now. People liked the New York and Heart of the Forest VN's. Some of the Onyx books are very popular. I dunno about sales or revenue, though.
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My immediate reaction during the announcement of "why the gently caress are they giving this to Hardsuit Labs" turned out to be the right one
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On their Discord, a Paradox guy is saying they can't talk about which dev is picking it up until all the legal details are sorted.
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