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Let me be Sabbat you coward game
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Mar 22, 2019 20:00
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User posted:Clutch those pearls. Heaven forbid bloodsucking ancient monsters be portrayed with unwoke beliefs. Uh, no. You're missing the point here. The issue is not that the vampires themselves have quote unquote unwoke beliefs, the problem is that entire Clans are racist stereotypes. And that those Clans were written by people, they aren't naturally occurring racist stereotypes or some poo poo.
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Mar 23, 2019 01:58
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This thread is a case study in why the #1 problem with the World of Darkness is the fact that the fanbase are some of the worst troglodytes on earth. Just absolutely insufferable edgelords who never mentally matured beyond the 90s. Much like Swedracula really.
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Mar 24, 2019 03:58
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King Vidiot posted:But what does that have to do with the reveal? Why would one be painted in later? Therese and Jeanette were actual sisters as children, Jeanette wasn't just a figment of Therese's imagination. Therese killed her father and sister, they literally spell it out in the game. It's just a family portrait painted before Therese killed her father and sister. I don't believe so no. Therese was sexually abused by her father. Jeanette was never real. Disassociative identity disorder in media typically correlates to childhood abuse, like Therese had. Jeanette is an invented persona to be the recipient of that abuse that "deserves" it. To disassociate from the abuse. She definitely killed her father but there was never a Jeanette. Captain Oblivious fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Mar 24, 2019 |
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Mar 24, 2019 15:37
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I'm genuinely sad they made the Sabbat just up and leave to the Middle East, they were one of the more interesting parts of the setting. Camarilla power struggles are all well and good but they get seriously old. Anarchs lack a compelling identity and message. Meanwhile the Sabbat's hell crusade to destroy the antediluvians and their commitment to alternate codes of morality (rather than Humanity) like in Paths of Blood made for fun campaigns. Seriously though I'm sick of the Camarilla 
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Mar 26, 2019 03:30
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sean10mm posted:Everybody does. Lasombra are fukken great. 
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Mar 28, 2019 20:18
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Basic Chunnel posted:Not really into the “all hubs all the time” choice. An open world by any other name… I mean "all hubs available at all times" also describes KOTOR 1 and 2. Would you describe those as open world games?
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Mar 30, 2019 04:46
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steinrokkan posted:You imagine nobody read the script before they built a game from it? Like they just threw the first draft to the programmers and asset creators? Yeah? It's not that unusual.
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Apr 1, 2019 02:27
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CottonWolf posted:As someone implied that there are people in this thread playing the game for the first time, I'll spoiler this. It's about the Voerman sisters: Most likely There was only ever one Voerman. Disassociative identity disorder is strongly linked to abuse as a child, you disassociate from the abuse, it's happening to someone else. Someone who deserves it. Tourette checks all the boxes. There was most likely never a sister. Just a single girl, sexually abused by her father, trying to find a way to cope until she snapped.
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Apr 3, 2019 05:48
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) and manifested Jeanette, her murdered sister, as an aspect of her personality then.
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Avasculous posted:I haven't read any V5 stuff, but my (admittedly fuzzy) recollection of V3 stuff is that: No, you remember correctly. In earlier iterations of VtM there was a big to do about Thin Bloods maybe possibly posing a legitimate threat but the fluff and mechanics never followed through in any serious way. DivineCoffee is articulating ideas that were PRESENT but not executed on in any way shape or form.
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Apr 5, 2019 00:43
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Really I like most of the V5 lore changes except for the part about the Sabbat 100% loving off to the middle east. Removing them entirely from play is a disappointing waste, and it sounds like the writers just weren't sure what to do with them. The Camarilla becoming more of a reactionary gated community and abandoning their attempts to present themselves as the default is cool, escalating war with the Anarchs is cool, the Second Inquisition is rad.
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Apr 5, 2019 02:11
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Crabtree posted:Well it isn't necessarily 100% of the Sabbat, but the entirety of the organization reveres Caine and hates the Antediluvian as Childr that devoured the Second Generation and Betrayed their originator. They are the part of the initial Anarch Revolt that didn't want to make peace with the Elders ever, the part that hated any trappings of control by anything that isn't Caine. Because Caine's coming back and will gently caress everyone's poo poo and we need to prove our loyalty to him, not elders, societies or kine through a Masquerade that denies OUR heritage and who WE really are! We need to eat the Antediluvians, assume their power and be the true benefactors of Gehenna! I mean that's kind of justifying it from an in lore perspective, which I don't care about because I'm looking at it from a structural perspective of "why was it written that way in the first place" and I think for the most part the whole middle east shtick thing is the weakest part of the V5 lore changes and Zapathasura never needed to happen at all really 
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Apr 5, 2019 02:37
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steinrokkan posted:I believe there are no clans in the game. You believe wrong. They've repeatedly said that, while you start as a Thin Blood, through some currently unknown method you join a Clan pretty early on and that there will be additional playable Clans post release.
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Apr 5, 2019 17:44
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alansmithee posted:There's also a bunch left over who never joined the Sabbat (Montano comes to mind as a major one) who are with the Camarilla, but yeah they seem to be becoming more prominent. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if they just eventually write out the Sabbat entirely with whatever war/battle is going on in the middle east now in V5. That seems to be the direction they’re going sadly. I have fond memories of Paths of Blood 
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Apr 7, 2019 18:39
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Xander77 posted:I feel like these lore dumps would have been absolutely fascinating if I could figure out wtf you're trying to say half the time. The english in that one is super mangled but what they're getting at is: Lasombra Elders are a peculiar case of defection from the Sabbat to the Camarilla, because no one really trusts them, but they also can't practically speaking turn them DOWN either. They're too much of a boon to say no to.
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Apr 7, 2019 22:13
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I don't know that there's a Vampire clan that isn't some shade of social darwinism. (But yes)
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Apr 7, 2019 22:27
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Tetrabor posted:I'm not a fan of it either because this thread has turned into Reddit with people regurgitating pages of WoD lore that has just about nothing to do with Bloodlines. So that you can talk about all the subject matter there is to talk about for this game such as And Face it my dudes this is basically just an OWoD Vampire appreciation station at this point precisely BECAUSE there's nothing else to talk about. If you wanna talk about Bloodlines 1, be the change you want to see in the world.
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Apr 8, 2019 05:23
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Tetrabor posted:The issue is that people bookmark this thread and expect to see new information on the game when there's +20 new posts, instead they're getting thread-shits by some goons who can't stick to the WoD thread specifically designed for this purpose. Yeah except the opposite of all that, because the people who care about this game are exactly the kind of people who want to just shoot the poo poo about the insane metaplot lmao. You'd have better luck pissing upwind man, maybe roll a stone wheel up an impossibly steep hill, any of those sound more productive than what you're doing.
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May 6, 2019 00:05
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:I think they should ditch Ventrue (for the initial five) and go Lasombra. They're close, but different enough, you know? This is my take. They've talked a lot about how they want to pick the most distinct Vampire Clans but...to be completely honest Ventrue and Toreador have a lot of thematic overlap. And Ventrue have a very passive/dull Discipline set. Lasombra gets you a lot of the same thematic/gameplay elements of Ventrue, the Dominate capable leader, plus shadow magic.
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May 15, 2019 17:27
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TheNamedSavior posted:Daily Mail is known for being racist old people propaganda that claimed we didn't come from africa. Check their rap sheet.
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May 19, 2019 05:43
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PantsOptional posted:So, the Anarchs then? Ehhh kinda? The Pioneers and Baron factions both seem to be different flavors of Anarchs. Doesn’t look like there’s really anybody analogous to the Bloodlines 1 Anarchs in terms of ideology as yet.
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Sep 20, 2019 15:15
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Zaphod42 posted:Hard to predict, but I almost feel the opposite impression. By splitting them up it means you can do that. If it was just "Clan Nosferatu" then it really wouldn't make sense having a Ventrue suddenly join the ranks. But since its "The Unseen", it excuses it. Yeah if anything it kinda seems like Clan is way LESS important in this city.
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Oct 10, 2019 02:49
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Khanstant posted:Is that the chick you turn into your blood thrall or whatever? The advantages of having a human be so slavishly devoted to you seems pretty obvious. The thing I hated was you couldn't save her the second time, you just kind of look down at her corpse and give her a JC Denton "what a shame" and move on. I was really hoping for more development on that front, she basically hangs around your slum and brings you delivery food one time. You can also be really mean to her, like, I insulted her appearance and next time I saw her she was wearing tiny panties and a small t-shirt. Felt skeevy. Maybe that's just the kind of vampire I am naturally but I would've been making myself a little army of thralls. Seems easy, give them a little bit of blood now and then. Blood that I just jack from random rich douchebags? The fact that you cannot save Heather the second time is the point of her character. Keeping her around is an irresponsible lovely thing to do. The actual cool and good thing is to save her the first time then cut her loose.
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Nov 1, 2019 22:42
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Magil of Shadow posted:Not if you're playing the Plus patch, however. There's a dialogue choice to command her to stay indoors after she mentions feeling like she was being watched. You miss out on the body armor she gives you, but it becomes available to purchase from Mercurio after the Sabbat mission that would have normally ended in her death. One of many reasons why the Plus patch is bad yes. Utterly missing the point of a story.
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Nov 2, 2019 18:14
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Poil posted:"I'll tie her fake eyelashes to her rear end hair and bowl her rear end into a car compactor! Demon whore!" Damsel has the absolute best lines 
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Nov 7, 2019 23:23
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Upmarket Mango posted:Sure but what does that have to do with this vampire videogame, are the devs located in Seattle or something? What it got to do with the story? The game takes place in Seattle. Regardless it’s too late for a major rewrite.
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Mar 23, 2020 21:26
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SuperKlaus posted:Wait sorry I know this has been covered but what the hell is the Sheriff? And there will be another one of whatever he is in the new game? Nagaloper. Weird offshoot Tzimisce Clan in Africa. Probably not.
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May 18, 2020 18:29
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:mostly cause Damsel is kinda a jerk Yeah but she's an entertaining jerk
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Jun 14, 2020 23:14
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Helical Nightmares posted:Speaking of secret worlds, how well did The Secret World do? It was nearly the World of Darkness: Mage MMO. It was a good game but how well did it do? Extremely not very. Too much launch jank, too niche, too little post launch support. MMOs are mostly a dead genre for good reason. Few MMOs can survive one of those things let alone three.
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Jun 18, 2020 05:38
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Anything short of derailing the game to go on Damsel's Wild Adventure to Destroy Capitalism counts as loving her up imo
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Jun 22, 2020 00:57
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Honestly despite the terrible assholes associated with the development of V5 I think most of the setting level changes in V5 do a good job of their stated objectives (shaking up an ossified setting so the player characters have more room to Actually Matter without resorting to full stop apocalypticism).
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Jul 14, 2020 17:41
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ChaseSP posted:I can't remember if it was a fan story or not but it basically involved a vampire being caught on a thermal camera and the government(UK I think ?) freaking the gently caress out at the revelations vampires are real and hold considerable power in society and immediately investing hard into kill squads with phosphorus rounds and installing thermal cameras everywhere while using it's considerable power to hack into basic rear end vampire sites to hunt them down. No that's essentially what happened in V5. The Second Inquisition involves world wide governments running vampire elders asses down like animals. Schrecknet was blown wide open, the UK is a total no go zone, the main Tremere Chantry got a hellfire rocket crammed up its rear end and the whole chain of blood fealty is broken now for a lot of Tremere, etc.
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Jul 15, 2020 04:44
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DeadFatDuckFat posted:Lol cmon guys, ropekid isn't gonna potentially burn bridges in the industry that he works in with baseless speculation just because goons ask him to We're shitposting here, not making actual asks.
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Aug 19, 2020 18:41
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But anyway what Ropekid should do is make a second SA account that coincidentally has the exact same avatar but with a photoshopped ridiculous Pink Panther moustache, and then post his baseless speculation under that flawless incognito disguise. Josh Clouseau.
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Aug 19, 2020 18:46
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Captain Monkey posted:How many excuses and cries of ‘other people’s fault’ does a person get though? Game making is a highly collaborative enterprise so uh Somewhere between zero and many? There is no hard rule, I don’t know why you think there would be one.
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Oct 12, 2020 19:36
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We don’t need to “know” to make some pretty damned informed guesses. Signs aren’t looking good.
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Oct 20, 2020 16:59
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Seriously what the gently caress is going on over there
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Oct 26, 2020 23:51
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HBS makes actually good games so yes, they should have. But on the other hand I'd rather not inflict the Vampire videogame curse on HBS they're good people who don't deserve that poo poo.
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Oct 27, 2020 22:53
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Insert a Name Here posted:I've never been sure; is this a d20 sort of game or is it hp/mana/abilities? Neither? It's d10/Storyteller based, which is the biggest single competitor paradigm to d20.
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Nov 12, 2020 11:25
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