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Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!


Propaganda Machine posted:

I'm cool with the lottery. That money mostly goes to tax-funded things like public schools.

Did you know that Nevada does not have a lottery? Bet the Gaming Commission had nothing to do with that.

Less the commission and more Sheldon Adelson. There’s three things that man hates and they’re Internet gambling, Marijuana and the lottery. The man donates 20-30 million dollars every election cycle to the RNC for candidates that support bans on those causes. He’s personally responsible for that ban on online poker a few years ago and had the bill written in such a way that any money in accounts owned by Americans on those sites was forfeit.

He overextended this election cycle though. The day after the midterms, which Adelson watched in the Whitehouse with Trump, a memo was sent to the DoJ reinterpreting the Wire Act that allowed states with legal online gambling to allow cross traffic accounts. If you lived in Delaware or Jersey you could use your Harrah’s account to gamble at the Harrah’s Los Vegas properties online suite. Now that’s illegal and companies are out millions invested in developing the software and architecture. That broke some unwritten rule among casino owners(almost every casino owner serves or has served on the RNC executive board) and now they’re gunning for him.

Macdeo Lurjtux fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Mar 7, 2019

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Norwegian Rudo
May 8, 2013


Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

Less the commission and more Sheldon Adelson. There’s three things that man hates and they’re Internet gambling, Marijuana and the lottery.

And Arabs.

Watermelon Daiquiri
Jul 10, 2010




they shouldve done a loving rube goldberg machine instead of the hand

Tarquinn
Jul 3, 2007

"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."


Hell Gem

Watermelon Daiquiri posted:

they shouldve done a loving rube goldberg machine instead of the hand

The hand was still funny, though.


Also, HBO robocalling all those officials, doesn't that constitute harassment? I mean for the sake of all 'murricans I hope it will be successful and I am sure HBO's legal team triple checked it, but it still seems a little bit weird.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005



They missed it in the turnaround but Trump has since lied multiple times about the "Tim Apple" thing. First he claimed that he ACTUALLY said "Tim Cook Apple" which is blatantly not true. Later on Twitter he claimed he was referring to Tim Cook and Apple at the same time as Tim/Apple.

Tarquinn posted:

The hand was still funny, though.


Also, HBO robocalling all those officials, doesn't that constitute harassment? I mean for the sake of all 'murricans I hope it will be successful and I am sure HBO's legal team triple checked it, but it still seems a little bit weird.

It probably falls under one of those things about how government officials having to take calls on government lines and aren't allowed to block people.

ninjewtsu
Oct 9, 2012



I imagine it has a similar level of legality as setting up a robot to mass call a longer list of specific people, perhaps for business purposes, is I think the larger point being made. John's presumably using the exact same loopholes that actual scam companies use to get away with robocalling.

Woden
May 6, 2006


https://www.fcc.gov/political-campa...calls-robotexts

You can robo-call landlines even without prior express consent, so I guess they're doing that. There's other rules in the linked pdf but I'm too lazy to figure it all out.

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

STOP BEING EVIL.


That bit on how laughing at Trump tends to soften how much of a monster he is really hit home for me. He used reality TV to remake his career, and regardless of how incredibly stupid he may actually be, he does know how to be a clown. And many of his supporters see the more monstrous things he gets caught with as more clowning around, not to be taken seriously or on face value. Back in the day with W, it felt like laughing at him had a power to it, because he was a pathetic man trying to put forth a serious image to get power to abuse, but Trump is so not-serious he doesn't even bother to lie well. He constantly puts out easy jokes as chaff for people to get caught up on so they won't bother with the more uncomfortable material.

I also continue to be surprised at how many people are acting like the allegations of Michael Jackson molesting children are new. People have been talking about them for years, when I was in middle school, long after his career had dwindled, it was one of the only things I knew about Michael Jackson.

And in happier news, John Oliver made a brief appearance on his old show, The Bugle if any of you are interested or like puns.

Phenotype
Jul 24, 2007

You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance.



Woden posted:

https://www.fcc.gov/political-campa...calls-robotexts

You can robo-call landlines even without prior express consent, so I guess they're doing that. There's other rules in the linked pdf but I'm too lazy to figure it all out.

I wondered if it's an example of rich people/corporation privilege, where you can break all the laws you want since they're only penalized with a fine, so you just have to factor paying the fine into your budget. For all the money John blows on this show, I can easily imagine a $20k line item on the budget for "Pay Robocall Fines."

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...



Pork Pro

Phenotype posted:

I wondered if it's an example of rich people/corporation privilege, where you can break all the laws you want since they're only penalized with a fine, so you just have to factor paying the fine into your budget. For all the money John blows on this show, I can easily imagine a $20k line item on the budget for "Pay Robocall Fines."

For certain, how much money did he blow on the jockstrap and wax presidents? If he can fit it into the season's budget, there's a good argument to be made for going forward. I imagine this will become more difficult with ATT, however...

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

"You are the best poster... do not let anyone say otherwise."


SlothfulCobra posted:

That bit on how laughing at Trump tends to soften how much of a monster he is really hit home for me. He used reality TV to remake his career, and regardless of how incredibly stupid he may actually be, he does know how to be a clown. And many of his supporters see the more monstrous things he gets caught with as more clowning around, not to be taken seriously or on face value. Back in the day with W, it felt like laughing at him had a power to it, because he was a pathetic man trying to put forth a serious image to get power to abuse, but Trump is so not-serious he doesn't even bother to lie well. He constantly puts out easy jokes as chaff for people to get caught up on so they won't bother with the more uncomfortable material.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump...468569800839169
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump...471621672960000

It's incredibly stupid and I still can't stop laughing

Orange Devil
Sep 30, 2010

CUNT


I guess this is where politics as entertainment leads.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!


Just continues his standard ‘let tv choose his talking points’. 60 Minutes just aired a piece about many of the recent Boeing crashes stemming from failure in the stall correction programs in the auto pilot.

The entire point of the piece was Boeing blaming pilot error and 60 Minutes pointing out that Boeing installed the program update without actually telling the airlines that it exists so the crashes were caused by the pilots frantically trying to overcorrect what appeared to be a computer malfunction.

Orange Devil
Sep 30, 2010

CUNT


So looks like Boeing killed 330 people. Want to take bets on how many Boeing higher ups will be held responsible?

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...



Pork Pro


Idiocracy wasn't meant to be a roadmap...

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011






Tarquinn posted:

The hand was still funny, though.


Also, HBO robocalling all those officials, doesn't that constitute harassment? I mean for the sake of all 'murricans I hope it will be successful and I am sure HBO's legal team triple checked it, but it still seems a little bit weird.

Surely John Oliver won't insult any powerful people this week says increasingly more nervous HBO lawyer.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!



Orange Devil posted:

So looks like Boeing killed 330 people. Want to take bets on how many Boeing higher ups will be held responsible?

Put it all on zero!



e: they'll quietly change the software and blame a dead pilot.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!


IRQ posted:

Put it all on zero!



e: they'll quietly change the software and blame a dead pilot.

They’ve already put out a statement saying it’s not their fault if the airlines didn’t read the patch notes.

The Cheshire Cat
Jun 10, 2008



Fun Shoe

Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:

Idiocracy wasn't meant to be a roadmap...

The president in Idiocracy was a better president than Trump. Sure he was stupid but he wasn't maliciously stupid. He was just incompetent.

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007


Cybernetic Crumb

Camacho at least took the smartest people he could find and charged then with fixing all the nation's problems, so not all that incompetent

Phenotype
Jul 24, 2007

You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance.



That's honestly what I thought Trump would do.

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...



Pork Pro

Phenotype posted:

That's honestly what I thought Trump would do.

His whole gimmick was "You're Fired," the epitome of ~80's Guy~ professional development. That kind of attitude doesn't attract talent.

I think the best insight we've had into Trump in comedy, and perhaps at all, was Tony Atamanuik's The President Show...amazingly prescient.

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

STOP BEING EVIL.


An okay episode. There's kind of an elephant in the room of a particular elephant that isn't in the room for once, a certain somebody that remarkably wasn't mentioned throughout the whole episode. Public outcry is sometimes the only outlet the people have against certain bad people in power, which is why they refine these outrage responses, before they get bored and turn it on some rando.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011






SlothfulCobra posted:

An okay episode. There's kind of an elephant in the room of a particular elephant that isn't in the room for once, a certain somebody that remarkably wasn't mentioned throughout the whole episode. Public outcry is sometimes the only outlet the people have against certain bad people in power, which is why they refine these outrage responses, before they get bored and turn it on some rando.

But he brought that up. He said that public shaming isn't always bad because of those reasons you mentioned.

END ME SCOOB
Mar 27, 2007

Like, I shoulda known the dog would smell it, man. I was way too high to bury him deep enough! I guess we gotta do this, huh? Alright, Scoob, get ready for my full power! DON'T HOLD BACK, PAL!

ZOINKS!

This was a subject I didn't see coming but boy am I okay with putting McMahon on blast as a lapsed wrestling fan.

PicklePants
May 8, 2007
Woo!

I'm too pretty happy that Vince is on blast. He's a lovely person, and his wife is a lovely person, who.. if I recall, is currently posted in Trump's Small Business Administration.

So.. you know, gently caress them.

Oh.. apparently she JUST announced her resignation from the SBA.. As in, Friday.

I don't know if this will have too much of an impact on the WWE, especially with Vince about to toss a whole poo poo ton of money to re-start the XFL.

tarlibone
Aug 1, 2014

<this space left intentionally blank, will be updated later. Fuck Lowtax>
Am I a... bad person?
AM I??


Fun Shoe

I remember when WWF changed to WWE, but I never learned the real reason why. Oh, I heard rumors, and I got a few different reasons from different people, but it all sounded like guesses to me. I had no idea that the WWF got wrestlingmoved into submission by a bunch of pandafuckers.

I mean, c'mon, that's just silly. That's South Park-level farce.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

Excuse me, I'd like to
speak to the moderator




It's pretty wacky that the WWE turned out to be only the second worst company to ever use the WWF brand

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

I will NEVER become THE PIRATE KING!!! I am just a lazy, hypocritical idiot.


I always knew that the McMan's were rightwing gently caress heads, but yeesh his offscreen persona is even worse than his onscreen one.

I'm surprised that so many wrestlers are conservatives or libertarians being how hosed up the WWE is.

Phenotype
Jul 24, 2007

You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance.



That clip they played of that interview was really telling. The interviewer is saying "They worked for you 200 nights a year..." and trails off, and there's a second of silence where Vince looks down for a sec like he might actually be thinking about it, then you can see his face change and he does his mock-crying bit and swipes at the interviewer's notes. It's like he might have had actually feelings for a second, but just shut it all down because gently caress this, gently caress that guy, I'm not gonna feel bad. It's not like he was directly inflamed by something the interviewer said, he had dead silence for a second and took the time to decide the best way to respond was to blow up. Seems like a real, real rear end in a top hat.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

I will NEVER become THE PIRATE KING!!! I am just a lazy, hypocritical idiot.


It took me a second to realize that the interview wasn't staged, because of the "WWE" TV background and Vince being such an rear end in a top hat on camera.

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible




Phenotype posted:

That clip they played of that interview was really telling. The interviewer is saying "They worked for you 200 nights a year..." and trails off, and there's a second of silence where Vince looks down for a sec like he might actually be thinking about it, then you can see his face change and he does his mock-crying bit and swipes at the interviewer's notes. It's like he might have had actually feelings for a second, but just shut it all down because gently caress this, gently caress that guy, I'm not gonna feel bad. It's not like he was directly inflamed by something the interviewer said, he had dead silence for a second and took the time to decide the best way to respond was to blow up. Seems like a real, real rear end in a top hat.

Vince once said in an 90s interview, regarding steroid use among wrestlers, that it was a necessity because they were wrestling 300 dates a year. Of course, he conveniently left out how he was the one making them do 300 dates a year.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!


He also makes all the on air talent, excepting the top earners, pay their own way. Even the guys too injured to wrestle that week still need to accompany the crew in case they feel like shooting some promo vids.

Hakkesshu
Nov 3, 2009



They could do like three more episodes on this topic. They didn't even get into stuff like Benoit, Hogan, the way they basically deperson fired wrestlers, steroids, or the McMahons' political connections.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.



John Oliver could spent an entire season on the heinous poo poo WWE has done and has its fingers in and not even touch the surface. It would just be a perpetual string of "That was mostly good, but what about..."

If you're curious to dig in the wrestling forum recently did a deep dive in a very easy to digest tournament format.

https://forums.somethingawful.com/s...hreadid=3876203

https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/...688935596736512

STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Apr 1, 2019

Goons Are Great
Nov 24, 2013

Please drink responsibly




This was the first time for me to actually realize that WWE exists in does things that non-wrestling fans hear about. Nice to see horizons expanded by this show, don't think I knew anything about that before.

What an industry that is.

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

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Hakkesshu posted:

They could do like three more episodes on this topic. They didn't even get into stuff like Benoit, Hogan, the way they basically deperson fired wrestlers, steroids, or the McMahons' political connections.
Or the Ring Boy scandal that is basically Penn State levels bad

LadyPictureShow
Nov 18, 2005

Success!




I'm sure I'll be disgusted and horrified by what the 'Ring Boy Scandal' entails, but at the same time, can someone give me a vague rundown or a link to an article?

I'm sure it's more terrible than the name implies.

About the extent of my 'McMahon/WWE treat wrestlers like poo poo' scandals is what happened to Road Warrior Hawk when WWE worked it into a storyline, and someone poured a full bottle of actual JD into his mouth/on his face.

LadyPictureShow fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Apr 2, 2019

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible




LadyPictureShow posted:

I'm sure I'll be disgusted and horrified by what the 'Ring Boy Scandal' entails, but at the same time, can someone give me a vague rundown or a link to an article?

I'm sure it's more terrible than the name implies.

About the extent of my 'McMahon/WWE treat wrestlers like poo poo' scandals is what happened to Road Warrior Hawk when WWE worked it into a storyline, and someone poured a full bottle of actual JD into his mouth/on his face.

MassRafTer posted:

After doing some more research on the ring boy scandal spurred on by some very helpful quotes from Bix it seems that Mel Phillips raped at least dozens of children and it may have been over 100. Vince McMahon was likely warned of what he was doing several times, including a letter from Lord Littlebrook.

Vince actually let Mel go (he would deny Mel was ever employed by the WWF which was true in the sense that John Cena was never employed by WWE) because what he told Meltzer and another reporter that Mel had peculiar and unnatural relationships with children but REHIRED him with the promise he not hang around kids.

Then there's Terry Garvin and the Terry Garvin School of Self Defense that Gorilla would joke about. Maybe Tony Schiavone was right not to want to pay tribute to him.

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STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.



LadyPictureShow posted:

I'm sure I'll be disgusted and horrified by what the 'Ring Boy Scandal' entails, but at the same time, can someone give me a vague rundown or a link to an article?

I'm sure it's more terrible than the name implies

Its basically a UPenn/Paterno-esque story of WWE employing and covering up for MULTIPLE pedophile abusers. This is the writeup done but I actually don't think it even touches on things. Through the course of that whole thread we kept digging deeper into it and learning worse and worse poo poo.

https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/...375892607098880
https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/...375894746181633
https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/...pagenumber%3D15

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