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Xealot posted:This was definitely true of Stewart circa GWB, but I feel like it's difficult to be genuinely "centrist" and also have human empathy in the current situation. Republican thought has shifted into such a racist and draconian place, I don't know what a "moderate" position between them and something human would even look like, or how someone argues for such a compromise in good faith. I guess Biden is attempting that, but I think he fell asleep in 2014 and hasn't absorbed new information since before Trump entered office. Buddy, Bush had 14 year olds in Gitmo. So he was literally torturing children. You don't get to be "moderate" about that yet claim human empathy. Republican thought has been racist and draconian for decades. Y'all just kept looking away.
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Jun 10, 2020 09:47
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Orange Devil posted:Buddy, Bush had 14 year olds in Gitmo. So he was literally torturing children. You don't get to be "moderate" about that yet claim human empathy. It really started with Reagan. Ford was no saint but at least he tried to do some good social programs. Then the Gipper comes along with his piss on the poor economic system and jettisoning all of the nation's mentally ill onto the streets and it's been steadily downhill from them since
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Jun 10, 2020 10:19
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It started with Nixon, and it became inevitable with Ford's pardon of him. Unless you are not white, then it started way earlier than that.
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Jun 10, 2020 10:24
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Orange Devil posted:Buddy, Bush had 14 year olds in Gitmo. So he was literally torturing children. You don't get to be "moderate" about that yet claim human empathy. Hey, man, don't say "you." I'm not apologizing for GWB, or Reagan, or Nixon. I agree they were villains, as was Clinton on the topic of racial justice. I'm saying the political discourse has shifted in the last 20 years, and that circa 2001 there existed a space for "reasonable moderates" that some demographic respected, and that's where John Stewart fit in. GWB was doing supervillain poo poo overseas, but it was possible for media figures to comment on those actions without being publicly called a Leftist cuck or Soros puppet or secret Antifa radical by the entire Republican establishment. The Torture Report this period instigated was a famously bi-partisan thing, even if Republicans were still lining their pockets with Halliburton contracts. I'm saying that there was a category of centrism in political thought that was lauded as somehow virtuous at that time, but that now whatever illusion it was behind that is gone. Sure, Republicans were evil back then, too...but they knew to try and hide it, or at least pay lip service to some language of moderation. That's gone now.
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Jun 10, 2020 21:02
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Orange Devil posted:It started with Nixon, and it became inevitable with Ford's pardon of him. Nixon was a scumbag, but he looked and sounded and acted like a scumbag, so everybody who voted for him had to recognize what they were doing. Reagan's big innovation was putting on a whole song and dance around it so that everybody could become comfortable with all the absolute worst offenses of the party, and every successful Republican since basically relied on the same sort of entirely fictional public facade that Reagan maintained. And on the other side of the aisle, Bill Clinton defined the values that the Democratic party leadership would rally around to the exclusion of dealing with things like income inequality, increasing corporate power, and a worsening penal system. The new deal died at his feet, and his main accomplishment was balancing the national budget only for that money to become fodder for Republicans to feed to the wealthy while totally burying the truth about which party was more fiscally responsible. He basically wound up as the model for a non-progressive democrat that the party is desperately trying to cling to despite the country being destroyed by all the issues they ignore, and that's why there are so many people who get very aggressive about "centrists," because the democratic party has backstabbed progressive values constantly and refused to present a united front on extremely important issues while those issues destroy the country.
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Jun 10, 2020 21:35
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Has any other president besides Obama ordered the death of a US citizen and his son without a trial for posting YouTube videos while we are discussing sub-optimal presidents?
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Jun 10, 2020 22:30
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I'm not defending everything Obama did, but I would take 8 more years of him over 8 seconds of Trumpski. (Incidentally, "8 seconds of Trumpski" is what earned Stormy Daniels $130k!  )
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Jun 11, 2020 01:27
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Xealot posted:Hey, man, don't say "you." I'm not apologizing for GWB, or Reagan, or Nixon. I agree they were villains, as was Clinton on the topic of racial justice. The "you" referred to Stewart in that context.
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Jun 11, 2020 10:06
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Hormonal stalingrad implies he was victorious
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Jun 15, 2020 06:11
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something tells me ton that is gonna be against facial recognition the second he becomes a victim of police racial violence i give it three weeks
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Jun 15, 2020 13:14
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Jun 15, 2020 18:06
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I was watching some old clips from the BEFORE TIMES on youtube and hearing the live studio audiences reactions again felt weird
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Jun 17, 2020 19:22
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Good episode of Rat Week Tonight. With the cases exploding everywhere (in America at least) the situation in prisons almost never comes up. https://i.imgur.com/G6QjGUV.mp4
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Jun 22, 2020 23:47
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This week’s episode coincides with this fantastic and thoroughly depressing article in this week’s unusually-good issue of the New Yorker Punishment by Pandemic: In a penitentiary with one of the U.S.’s largest coronavirus outbreaks, prison terms become death sentences. Seriously, go out and buy this.  (Closer look)
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Jun 23, 2020 04:46
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I was kinda hoping that some of the protesting against police brutality would segue into criticism of rest of the penal system. Even aside from the immediate health risk, prisons and jails across the nation are barbaric and need to be heavily reformed. Many should be closed. There's even plenty of justification to end many prisoners' sentences, between overactive judges and police and the sentences being served for offenses that may not still be crimes. There's also plenty reason to criticize the sub-citizen treatment of people after they were released from jail, but that's a bit of a further tangent. John Oliver sounds pretty mad, and he really should be. The horror stories of people dying horribly and still being put further at risk can really grind you down.
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Jun 23, 2020 05:44
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I normally appreciate the deep dives into subjects, but its really not cutting it right now. poo poo is happening too fast.
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Jun 23, 2020 06:01
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I think he's done a deep dive on for-profit prisons before, hasn't he?
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Jun 23, 2020 21:26
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Yes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Pz3syET3DY
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Jun 24, 2020 04:32
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That "And now, this.." sure was something. Also, PS5 hype out of nowhere.
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Jun 29, 2020 08:26
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Stare-Out posted:That "And now, this.." sure was something. Good news Butch, you'll get to die for the flag real soon.
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Jun 29, 2020 17:01
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Alhazred posted:Good news Butch, you'll get to die for the flag real soon. Yeah goddamn, I wonder if he'll feel the same hooked up to a loving respirator.
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Jun 29, 2020 17:03
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I don't have HBO, what was the "And now, this" segment all about?
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Jun 29, 2020 17:29
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Kamrat posted:I don't have HBO, what was the "And now, this" segment all about? A bunch of AMERICAN PATRIOTS one after another bitching to some council in Florida about the mandate to wear masks and how it's un-american to force people to do that. With bonus WHO/CDC conspiracy bullshit and how one guy would die for the flag. Typical dumb crap.
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Stare-Out posted:A bunch of AMERICAN PATRIOTS one after another bitching to some council in Florida about the mandate to wear masks and how it's un-american to force people to do that. With bonus WHO/CDC conspiracy bullshit and how one guy would die for the flag. Typical dumb crap. Ah thanks! Yeah I figured it was something stupid like that.
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Jun 29, 2020 18:05
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The "clunk" that painting made gives me life.
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Jun 29, 2020 22:45
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Yeah, John just casually tossing it off camera was pretty great.
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Jun 30, 2020 00:15
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It's no surprise that the Senate doesn't want to do anything about the eviction crisis. They straight-up don't believe in preventing the suffering of people. You can hear it right where they say that passing another relief bill should be considered in the context of how well the economy is doing. The non-bigoted portion of their platform is based upon promising that they will have some kind of effect on the random fluctuations of the economy, and they refuse to make the connection between an economy going badly and human suffering, from the big suffering like people being murdered and dying in the thousands to the smaller suffering like crippling debt and lack of income mobility. I like how John Oliver made sure to clarify that the way rental housing works was already a crisis before the pandemic exacerbated it, because it's true. It needs massive reform, probably even central planning instead of relying on people who just want a safe return on their investment. And then Papa John is also proving how he's still fantastically wealthy despite being ousted by his company. I don't know what he's trying to build up good will for, but he could probably afford to live the rest of his life without working.
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SlothfulCobra posted:And then Papa John is also proving how he's still fantastically wealthy despite being ousted by his company. I don't know what he's trying to build up good will for, but he could probably afford to live the rest of his life without working. He wants to run for public office, potentially Governor of Kentucky next cycle. It was already in the plans before his meltdown. Which the stories that will come out if he tries to run for office will be nothing compared to what is already out. He is fairly universally loathed by anyone that has interacted with the guy. It is very well known that he would randomly pop into locations around the Louisville area unannounced and do incredibly inappropriate things. I have a close friend that worked at a location for a couple years after High School that he would stop in to on a regular basis. He would harass the female staff and it was basically told to them that they had to be quiet about it or else there would be ramifications to them personally. I haven't had one of his pizzas in almost 20 years and I hope I never give a cent to that piece of garbage ever again.
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Papa John can't provide healthcare to his employees because he needs to buy a statue wrongly demonstrating how eagles gently caress. This is the american dream.
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Jun 30, 2020 06:28
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Papa Bless or Papa Flex Papa Bless or Papa Flex
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SlothfulCobra posted:
It's a crisis in every country, even mine. Rich people are buying up apartments and renting it out to insane prices because they know people are desperate. In my opinion a regulated market is the only solution.
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Jun 30, 2020 09:48
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Alhazred posted:It's a crisis in every country, even mine. Rich people are buying up apartments and renting it out to insane prices because they know people are desperate. In my opinion a regulated market is the only solution. Easiest way to combat this is by introducing a compounding real estate tax. If you own a single property you have the standard tax rate. Your second property raises this. Every property after compounds that tax rate to a point where it is uneconomical to own that much property. You can also charge a higher tax rate to those that live out of state as well to curb property speculation, etc. You can also levy no-occupancy fines and taxes as well as the same on undeveloped land in residential or commercial areas.
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Djarum posted:Easiest way to combat this is by introducing a compounding real estate tax. If you own a single property you have the standard tax rate. Your second property raises this. Every property after compounds that tax rate to a point where it is uneconomical to own that much property. You can also charge a higher tax rate to those that live out of state as well to curb property speculation, etc. This is a really interesting solution I haven't heard before, and it's pretty elegant. That is, punishing real estate hoarders without ruining single homeowners in the process. I live in Los Angeles, which is pretty much one of the worst-case-scenarios for buying real estate in the US. Rich people speculating on property is a huge contributor to our collective misery; the other is a de facto property tax situation where those rates are locked in or near the assessed value of a property when it was purchased, ensuring that anyone who bought a home decades ago has little incentive to sell and every incentive to rent. The population is high, the available housing stock is low, the real estate values are inflated, and the only thing likely to change any of that is boomer homeowners dying en-masse (at which point those homes' values would be re-assessed for inheritance purposes.) I'd love to own property at some point in my life, but out-competing the super wealthy for an ever-dwindling housing stock makes that impossible. And I'm solidly middle-class by any national definition; I can't even begin to imagine how bad it is for poor residents of South Central or East LA getting gentrified out of their own communities. It sucks that most voting homeowners wouldn't understand this proposal if it became a ballot initiative. "TAXIFORNIA GONNA BIG TAX UR HOUSE / MAKE U HOMELESS / GOVERNMENT GREED BAD / VOTE NOpaid for by every pro-developer PAC in the region"
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What do you do about companies that legitimately own tons of properties to rent out? If you give them an exception, wealthy jerks will just incorporate that part of their lives into a company.
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Josh Lyman posted:What do you do about companies that legitimately own tons of properties to rent out? If you give them an exception, wealthy jerks will just incorporate that part of their lives into a company. Well under a plan like this, such a business would not be able to exist or if it did it could not be profitable. The idea would be to encourage ownership of property for all people by lowering the costs of property due to lack of scarcity. Those that are renting are in owner/operator situations so you have to actually interact with your renters and vice versa. Renting will still be in demand as you will have younger people just starting out in life, people moving to a new area for various reasons and not ready or wanting to settle down, etc. On the commercial/industrial side you might need to have things slightly looser but you can have very strict rules in it what zoning the properties are, the amount and size of property and vacancy to curb both misuse in ways you are thinking and encourage small business owners. I would envision things on the commercial side being almost like the mall concept in some ways in which you have an anchor business that may rent out additional space to smaller businesses. You would also have an increase in smaller local businesses as well. A plus in this is that mega businesses like a Wal-Mart or McDonalds would have a much more limited reach. I would assume they would move towards a purely franchise model which would limit their profits and power ultimately.
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Djarum posted:Easiest way to combat this is by introducing a compounding real estate tax. If you own a single property you have the standard tax rate. Your second property raises this. Every property after compounds that tax rate to a point where it is uneconomical to own that much property. We've had this for three years in my country and it hasn't actually made that much of a difference.
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Alhazred posted:We've had this for three years in my country and it hasn't actually made that much of a difference. Yeah, the rent just goes up. Just like a trade war, pass that extra cost on to the consumer. The US charges like 4x property tax on rental stuff already
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Alhazred posted:We've had this for three years in my country and it hasn't actually made that much of a difference. What country and how is it laid out. In how I think about it, even if you are very wealthy once you hit let’s say 4 pieces of property the cost of taxes coupled with occupancy requirements would make the costs so high that you would effectively be paying the assessment values every year in taxes. My first thought is that your country doesn’t have the penalties high enough to actively discourage property ownership after a certain point and is more looking to generate more tax revenue.
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