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Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

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tarlibone posted:

But it's still "elect me and I'll make all the bad go away, it's so simple!", and how anyone is falling for it is beyond me.

Maybe you missed the part where Bernie said electing him is not enough. I can understand if you hear Bernie talking about real solutions to real problems and your brain shuts off because you are accustomed to shitlib rhetoric. What do you think he could do to keep your attention better such that he may actually reach people like you?

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Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

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you are viewing sanders as if he were your typical liberal or conservative politician seeking federal office, to stroke their ego and for financial gain. you're wrong

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

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economy imploding could motivate people to pitchforks, empower the passing of sanders infrastructure plan and more

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

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LividLiquid posted:

Okay, so I guess it was better to have Trump in the white house than to hold your nose for Hillary? I'm so tired of this argument. Jesus Christ.

Ideological purity is for primaries.

This is a pretty dumb argument. When federal government officials don't support underclass interests, the underclass (and sympathizers) should not be compelled to support said officials. Quite disgusting, really.

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

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Greaseman posted:

We vote by mail around here and it's so easy and obvious that I don't see why it's not done in all states*.

*Voter suppression, I know.

Isn't this how people went to elderly voters homes to "help" them vote?

E:

Baronash posted:

An optical scanner is still a voting machine, and the bill Oliver is talking about covers those as well.

Unless you’re actually suggesting hand counting ballots, which is a massive undertaking.

Not really, if you're only voting for 1 office on that day. And without the requirement to install voting hardware at polling places, a barrier to setting up more polling places is reduced.

Corky Romanovsky fucked around with this message at 07:05 on Nov 5, 2019

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

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Craptacular! posted:

My machine shows me a paper printout of my ballot when I submit my vote. I don’t have a problem with machines when they have a physical backup for recounts.

How does the machine deal with erroneous ballots that require intervention by the user or staff to nullify? How is a recount triggered? How are audits performed? Physical backup alone is insufficient.

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Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

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Pretty cool that Oliver & co. ignored the biggest vulnerability with vote by mail to focus on red herrings. I'm generally in support of vote by mail, but we shouldn't just paper over concerns, rather honestly consider various risks, solutions and mitigation methods, and how best to implement vote by mail.

https://amp.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article227148109.html

This is just the most recent example I could find, almost certainly there are more.

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