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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:O6-era hockey is a pretty good comp for pre-integration or deadball baseball This has no bearing on anything, but I love how Original Six is such a wildly inappropriate term.
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howe_sam posted:The NHL was founded in 1917 (plus the Stanley Cup is older that) and the NFL was founded in 1920. That's not even twenty years after the founding of the AL. Is there anyone in the history of the NHL or NFL that is seen as an all time great that played before the 50s? But baseball is pretty unique for having Ty Cobb and Cy Young and Babe Ruth etc.
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Jim Thorpe is the only one I can think of Hockey’s first “great” would have been...Bobby Orr I guess?
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zapplez posted:Is there anyone in the history of the NHL or NFL that is seen as an all time great that played before the 50s? In hockey? Geordie Howe's debut was 1946
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GalacticAcid posted:Jim Thorpe is the only one I can think of Rocket Richard? And gently caress I always forget Ted Williams fought in WW2. I guess my whole thing is any stats pre-war shouldn't count.
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Red grange was the 20s College football was bigger than the nfl then Jim Thorpe as mentioned. Bronko Nagurski.
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zapplez posted:Is there anyone in the history of the NHL or NFL that is seen as an all time great that played before the 50s? Not even in the NBA. George Mikan was considered to be the greatest player of all time up until the early 60s, but he played a different game. That’s the fundamental difference between baseball and the the other big 3 sports. Baseball has always been the same basic game with a few minor tweaks here and there - the DH is probably the biggest one, and that barely made a difference in only one league. The NFL didn’t have the forward pass until well after its inception, and it wasn’t even widely used until the late 50s. The NBA made massive changes that reinvented the game like the shot clock and the 3 point shot. The NHL didn’t expand beyond a regional pastime until the late 60s, only fielding 6 teams, none of which was further south than Philadelphia. There simply haven’t been changes like that in baseball, so you can still compare eras. Comparing the NBA of even the 70s to 3 decades prior is impossible.
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Jean-Paul Hockèy is the greatest of all time and is Wayne Gretzky's real dad although they never met and Wayne never expressed his regret to anyone except me, in a dream.
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GPTribefan posted:Not even in the NBA. George Mikan was considered to be the greatest player of all time up until the early 60s, but he played a different game. It took 20 years before baseball invented balls and strikes don't give me that crap
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Feb 22, 2019 02:02
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Every pre-integration World Series title should be voided, with the obvious exceptions of 1909 and 1925.
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Feb 22, 2019 02:06
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https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1098749489521836032 There is like 0% chance of the Padres actually signing him, but still...
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JoeCL posted:https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1098749489521836032 I hope they do and just fuckin blow the Dodgers out of the water in 2020
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Feb 22, 2019 02:09
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I will laugh/cry so loving hard if the Padres/Reds come out of the offseason completely stacked.
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Feb 22, 2019 02:11
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gently caress it, I'm on board. Go Padres.
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Feb 22, 2019 02:11
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NL 2019 is gonna rock
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GPTribefan posted:Not even in the NBA. George Mikan was considered to be the greatest player of all time up until the early 60s, but he played a different game. Lowering the mound, making spitballs illegal, tightening the covering, juicing the core of the ball
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Feb 22, 2019 02:12
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https://deadspin.com/sb-nation-hired-a-disgraced-pastor-to-lead-a-team-site-1832800373 Sorry, Pirates fans
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Intruder posted:Lowering the mound, making spitballs illegal, tightening the covering, juicing the core of the ball Replacing balls when they get dirty and scuffed up is a big one too. Using just one ball all game was a huge factor in the deadball era.
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hifi posted:It took 20 years before baseball invented balls and strikes don't give me that crap
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Feb 22, 2019 02:21
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I seriously mean it that I hope the Padres sign Harper so that every few weeks I can watch an ESPN game and be like "Oh yeah! Eric Hosmer is a Padre! I forgot." Like its now one of my big little wants for the '19 season. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Feb 22, 2019 |
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seiferguy posted:https://deadspin.com/sb-nation-hired-a-disgraced-pastor-to-lead-a-team-site-1832800373 Lol I thought the dude seemed weird. I was thinking about how bad his post today was. Hope he gets fired
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Feb 22, 2019 02:37
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SBN's Pirates site wasn't too bad 10 years ago. What happened? I do know at some point they changed the name from "Buc 'Em", but many of their blogs (Yankees, Giants) have had a name change over the years.
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It’s still quite good, the comment section is atrocious with a couple of exceptions They publish a lot of Wilbur Miller (byline WTM) and Alex Stumpf, probably the two best pirates-focused writers around for my money
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I'd talk poo poo but the Cubs SB Nation site is run by Al Yellon, who is absolutely the loving worst so  
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Sydin posted:I'd talk poo poo but the Cubs SB Nation site is run by Al Yellon, who is absolutely the loving worst so Dumb > Evil
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Intruder posted:Lowering the mound, making spitballs illegal, tightening the covering, juicing the core of the ball Hell, early baseball the pitcher was almost on the same team as the hitter, the hitter could ask for a low or high pitch.
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zapplez posted:Is there anyone in the history of the NHL or NFL that is seen as an all time great that played before the 50s? In hockey, some people discount anything pre-90s because of the ridiculous high rates of scoring in the 80s. People still think of Gretzky as the best, but it always comes with an asterisk to some. With that said, when comparing players across different eras, no one is really saying that Player A from 1920 is better than Player B from present day. What they are saying is that relative to their peers, Player A had a more impressive career than Player B. It's more of a fun thought experiment comparing players from different eras, and giving a more historical look of how a player actually stacks up.
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so this is a bonkers story from the SI power-rankings article:quote:in 2012, SI’s Tom Verducci informed him that he had pulled one ball into the stands his entire career to that point and Votto remembered it 
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howe_sam posted:The NHL was founded in 1917 (plus the Stanley Cup is older that) and the NFL was founded in 1920. That's not even twenty years after the founding of the AL. Who loving cares about the AL? It hasn't been real baseball since the early seventies.
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howe_sam posted:The NHL was founded in 1917 (plus the Stanley Cup is older that) and the NFL was founded in 1920. That's not even twenty years after the founding of the AL. (also you're completely missing the fact that baseball's rules have been mostly static since 1889 when the leagues agreed to award a base on balls to four. No other sport has been that static, for that long, and that's why MLB records are more important.)
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TheFlyingLlama posted:if you've ever played one of the baseball management sims (like baseball mogul or Out of the Park Baseball) it's actually hilarious to try simming a league with teams from vastly different eras and just watch the game just break. OOTP fucks this up real bad because they sim deadball era players as just hitting poorly (same contact, less power) instead of applying a modifier to hit distance. IE, the problem is the sim model.
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:OOTP fucks this up real bad because they sim deadball era players as just hitting poorly (same contact, less power) instead of applying a modifier to hit distance. Does it properly account for spit?
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Mustached Demon posted:Does it properly account for spit? Not at all as far as I've seen, deadball / spitball era hitters just get lovely scores for power and that's it. Kinda disappointing.
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euphronius posted:How much caffeine is in 48 oz of coffee per day. I dunno but when I was on my psych rotations in med school and participating in shock therapy we would give patients like 2-300 mg caffeine to help induce seizures.
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UZR IS BULLSHIT posted:I hope they do and just fuckin blow the Dodgers out of the water in 2020
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Re: The Mariners in the playoffs, Felix is already in midseason form https://twitter.com/RyanDivish/status/1098294075327864832/video/1 
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euphronius posted:How much caffeine is in 48 oz of coffee per day. Rule of thumb appears to be 60 mg/8 oz cup I've been drinking a 12 cup pot per day for nearly two decades, which comes out to 720g of caffeine every day, which explains a lot.
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Shiroc posted:Re: The Mariners in the playoffs, Felix is already in midseason form oh good
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