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"Trust the Process" "Suck for Luck" "Patrick Ewing Sweepstakes" Of the four big US sports, all four generally acquire talent through an amateur draft process, with a draft seed based on ypur previous year's record. This has lead some teams to decide on a metastrategy of "tanking," or losing on purpose to secure a better draft seed and, because these drafts are not serpentine (meaning you pick the same spot every round), secure the best talent available each round (this matters more in the NBA which has far fewer rounds) However, sports are a specialized sort of live entertainment industry. The goal is to put the best product on the field/court/ice as possible, and tell fans -who spent a LOT of money on tickets- that you are at least trying to spoil someone else's season. Obviously you can have rebuilding years when you know you dont have the personnel for a title run - but stranger things have happened and it aint over till any given Sunday and all that. Tanking is just miserable though. It's knowing not only is this a rebuilding year, but the team is consciously designed to be bad just to get to hope a rookie will end the tailspin. You wouldn't accept going to a Metallica concert with some 9 year old on a recorder replacing James Hetfield so Metallica can save some money on this tour so the next tour can hire a badass guitarist! So I put it to SAS: what processes can we Institute to stop tanking and compel teams, even rebuilding ones, to at least attempt to put a watchable product in front of fans? Contrarian take: with the success of the Astros and nets after a tanking process, should tanking be dealt with?
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Feels Villeneuve posted:relegate teams to the minor leagues thanks everyone I mean, yes promotion/relegation solves this nicely, but how do teams deal with payroll? Or do they just not become eligible for postseason play ? I dont know enough about how soccer handles it.
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Feb 27, 2019 19:54
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DJExile posted:Minor league relegation would never work with any north american league. G-Hawk posted:as an astros fans, i'm happy they tanked and see no reason to try to stop it. I just don't know that saying "hey fans, we're gonna be bad for this year and probably next year" works in all situations. Again, they are (at their core) entertainment ventures, so they need to be entertaining to watch. A bunch of AAAA-guys hacking at ML pitches for two years while you sandbag prospects isn't "fun" Shrecknet fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Feb 27, 2019 |
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rare Magic card l00k posted:Eliminate the draft. This is actually a pretty compelling argument, and makes a lot of sense from a labor rights standpoint too. The only concern is MLB, which has no salary cap so smaller-market teams literally could have no cost-controlled talent ever - although that itself may be desirable after the Yanks/Sawks pay $100m upfront for "The Next Mike Trout" a couple times and end up with four years of "The Next Matt Weiters"
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Feb 27, 2019 20:45
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fisting by many posted:the NPB's (Japanese baseball) draft system
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Feb 27, 2019 21:12
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DJExile posted:Yeah nixing the draft would be a good start. How would nixing the draft affect player salaries? Would anyone sign a FA contract with rookie pay #s? Someone already mentioned how its impossible to put a championship NHL team on the ice at fair market value; would overall salaries go down or would the players bargain for an expanded cap?
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Tanking has tangible effect on salesquote:There are of course other ways to explain such a drop in attendance, but those are topics Manfred doesn’t really want to broach in public. One issue is that more teams than ever are more willing than ever to put a non-competitive product on the field. The Astros did it "the right way" by broadcasting that they were intentionally tanking, and doing fan events like cheap hot dogs or whatever. But teams that do not explicitly state their tanking, and do not take steps to improve the fan experience in other ways, are going to suffer.
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