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SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

if this isn't a cult game I will be sorely disappointed plus I'm signing up for this

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SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

Nep-Nep posted:

Yeah I'll do a confessional.

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

no wait I see that I already have a confessional

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

IcePhoenix posted:

...how can you see that?

I haven't a clue.

(I also cannot see any messages in the channel, nor can I see any of the participants, and I cannot send messages.)

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

IcePhoenix posted:

that's weird

can you see anything else? or was it just that channel?

just that one

anyway I have retreated to my own confessional

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

onsetOutsider posted:

woo! :toot:


no you loving didnt lol

I got mine too I don't know why you're denying it, unless you're scum

##vote oo

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

oh poo poo we started

okay so

i'm scum, my team is tobbs and flerp

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

flerp posted:

thanks for ruining the game

but you already joined!!!!!!

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

flerp posted:

##vote solus

you're not supposed to bus me day one!!!!

we talked about this in the discord we were going to bus tobbs!!!!!

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

onsetOutsider posted:

anyway, claiming scum even fake or as a joke is just never something town should do.

##vote SolusLunes

(did i do that right?)

no, you need to vote for tobbs

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

Tobbs Gnawed posted:

*sigh*

At least you can't say I was solely responsible for my team's loss this game.

I know, right?

we got saddled with flerp and sometimes that's just too much weight to put on my broad shoulders

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

onsetOutsider posted:

both of you stop humoring each other

stop humoring yourself

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

:colbert:

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

flerp posted:

look guys, let’s talk about this in the scumcord

I refuse to have my posting constrained only to the discord, I must also post to the thread

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

Tobbs Gnawed posted:

You literally posted this in scumcord verbatim, modkill IMO

poo poo

IP I throw myself on your mercy

onsetOutsider posted:

as far as im concerned all 3 of you are scum pulling the worst reverse psychology attempt ever

friend I just told you we were the scums, it's not reverse psychology

it's forward psychology

we get where we're going

with your psychology we're not just where we were, it's worse

we're behind where we were

and like that, we simply cannot get beyond thunderdome

you're the one holding us back here, bucko

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

but you've got to ask yourself

do you even want to get where you're going???

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

onsetOutsider posted:

if you think i care about your cryptic bullshit, youre wrong

your words hurt me more than you know

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

onsetOutsider posted:

i definitely feel like im gonna get killed for talking too much now tho...

Eh, you win some, you lose some. Besides, you're fine, I'm in this game, and if there's one thing I'm good at, it's getting lynched D1.

Realtalk though if you really think this is a game with three scum I don't know what to tell you.

To wildly setup spec:

I think this is a 10 to 1 cult game, with possible 3p (or a two-man scumteam) to basically prevent us from headshotting the cult leader D1 and winning immediately for town. But I could, of course, be wrong. The real interesting bit of information for setup spec will be how many people, IF ANY, die N1.

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

b-minus1 posted:

Why would a cult leader want to no lunch on d1

because it looks good for cred

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

Tobbs Gnawed posted:

Sol this may have been a bad gambit. I'm sorry for suggesting it I just really want flerp to lose again.

We tried, and what really matters is the friendships we made along the way.

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

onsetOutsider posted:

@solus, tobbs
if your little story youre playing out is true, it's extremely idiotic and unfunny and a terrible strategy as maf.
if it's fake, it's extremely idiotic and unfunny and a terrible strategy as town.

You're just jealous you didn't think of it

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

onsetOutsider posted:

i dont necessarily think you're town at all

then what DO you think, and why do you think you can't take part in it

it's day one, friendo

onsetOutsider posted:

out of you three, i only want to dunk solus though

now that's just not neighborly, I told you who scum was, and this is how you try to repay me

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

look I'll even get you a hat



are we even now

are we neighbors again

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

onsetOutsider posted:

i get it. ive played mafia before just not here or in this format.
in my lurking experience the jokes stick to, idk, NOT lying about game stuff?

perhaps those who aren't willing to joke about game stuff are the ones who have something to hide

scummitude, perhaps

:thunk:

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

onsetOutsider posted:

says the one building a gigantic wall of "i was just joking" to protect against any lies he's caught in...

oh friend I don't make jokes

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

every statement I make is a jewel, carefully crafted, sparkling in the light

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

onsetOutsider posted:

my kneejerk anger is subsiding...
maybe i can work w you guys. assuming u are friends...

town doesn't need friends

scum needs friends

don't worry about building friends

kill scum

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

Tobbs Gnawed posted:

If u are scum buddy up to town and bus your team it works good.

tobbs I will hold you to your statement of not bussing me d1

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

onsetOutsider posted:

forgive me i'm learning.
but also if you decieve me then you're dead to me. and also literally, by lynching

I mean there's perfectly valid reasons for town to lie

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

Dick Bastardly posted:

Yeah I don't think I agree with this, at least not the tone of how acceptable lying as town seems here.

There are situations were town gambits work, but this are so few and far between imo.

If you're not gambiting as town, are you even having fun?

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

Dick Bastardly posted:

I have more fun gambiting as scum tbh

well yes but this is about having fun as town

I understand this may not be applicable to you this game, but you need to work with me here

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

SalTheBard posted:

##vote asf

Terrible joke

##vote sal

I liked it

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

onsetOutsider posted:

hey btw more spectators should join the discord so that when i get killed n1 you can all yell at me about how bad ive been playing

eh, you're just new here and playing as the fun police, it's a phase that will pass

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

Dick Bastardly posted:

doesn't seem protown to me, no lunching

Hm. Opop, why a no-execute vote?

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

Retro Futurist posted:

I have like 5 posts and I’ve already explained my position as well as it’s going to be explainable at this stage, do your own homework.

I mean I read it, I just thought it was a joke, but you're serious

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

tobbs status: dead

flerp status: alive

:thunk:

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

Dick Bastardly posted:

I still don't know for certain if that claim was a joke or not

EXACTLY AS KEIKAKU

Dick Bastardly posted:

One possible motive for scum to kill Tobbs was to reinforce the reverse psychology that because Tobbs flipped town, Sol's claim that they are scumbros with Tobbs and flerp must be false. Planning a gambit like that doesn't really make sense but I've seen plenty of nonsensical things happen in games of sa mafia.

I don't like to believe any theory is "too dumb" to be true, because I'm worried scum might try to do really dumb things and try to get away with them for fun because why not. At least that's something I feel like I might do as scum.

I entirely agree with this. Optimal play is generally boring. Taking stupid risks for fun makes mafia enjoyable.

On the wild setup spec front, I would be unsurprised for it to be traditional scum + SK. Just because the kill flavors are the same doesn't mean that scum + SK is impossible.

Retro Futurist posted:

I could be spinning into crazy theory territory, but what if the two kills are due to there being two scum like I said, but rather than individual teams they’re working together, but can’t communicate. Scum claiming in that case would be a bold but wise move, they may not even know who the other is

Interesting, but... how would scum know? Unless they were told there are separate scum teams? Hm.

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

Dick Bastardly posted:

I'm not entirely sure the bolded part is sincere or not, but assuming it is: How is a "plan" to scum claim during jokephaize pro town?

Let's look at it from both perspectives (it's a joke vs. it's not a joke):

It's a joke: If it's a joke, or town gambit, then the purpose would be (I assume) to draw out scum votes as a "honey pot" of sorts. The logic here being; "It's so obvious a joke that only scum would take it to the point of crafting a narrative to cast shade on the joker." That could very well be the case here. This is the only logical reason I can think of that answers the question how a gambit like that could be pro-town. I guess it's up to town to decide the likelihood of this being the case with Sol's scumclaim.

It's not a joke: If it's not a joke, the purpose (I think) would be to simply play in a manner that's "too dumb to be scum" and thus cultivating town cred right off the bat whilst simultaneously advancing a reverse psychology ploy to not only craft more town cred by illustrating the flaw in the claim (that Tobbs is a scumbro, and by killing Tobbs and flipping them town shows the "jokiness" of the scum-claim) but also to frame flerp which is reinforced by the following post:


with what Sol is putting forward as a theory about scum-team set-up, I think it very likely that Sol is 3P at the very least and perhaps either trying to coordinate in thread with another unknown scum player (as evidenced by two NKs, I don't think the mod would have to necessarily divulge that info in a PM) or trying to suss out the other 3P/scum that could be adversarial to Sol.

Or it could really be that it's a town gambit to "honey pot" scum voters. :shrug:

First bolded part is not sincere. Second part of it is.

I actually have done this to draw out scum votes before, I don't think it succeeded this time. I mostly drew out a newbie voting on principle and a few joke votes. Nothing like scum trying to pile on an easy lynch.

I'm not entirely sure what point you're trying to make re: my theories about scumteam setup? Are you thinking that the two-scum-team thing was my theory? It isn't. It's idle setup spec regardless, and can be safely disregarded.

I also don't think you're coming from a disingenuous argument, I do think that you're willing to jump on it to the exclusion of any others. I'm not sure if this makes you scummy enough to seriously vote yet, but you are coming across as the scummiest one here, which means I need to look at someone else and see if I'm getting odd vibes off of you.

I also don't think flerp is scum just because tobbs died, and saying that I'm intentionally trying to not-frame frame flerp because of that, well. You either have a very high opinion of my ability to play mindgames, or you're reaching. A lot.

SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

Dick Bastardly posted:

*reads Onsets posts*

my heart: they're new, probably nothing awry here.

my mind: they're scum YOU FOOL

(and I have been fooled by this type of ploy before)

I think the greater part of me wants to look elsewhere. I'm thinking players that are participating a whole lot. I'm looking at ASF in this regard. Would vote Onset if it comes down to the wire (deadline is tonight I believe).

I generally agree with this read of onset.

It's sad but I don't think they're long for this world, town or not. Though I don't think it's reasonable to want to lynch them today (barring something changing).

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SolusLunes
Oct 10, 2011

I now have several regrets.

:barf:

onsetOutsider posted:

are you calling me NK bait?

Almost the exact opposite, in fact. I think you're too scummy for scum to kill, and I think that sooner or later you'll be lynched for being scummy.

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