Emalde posted:

Electric Phantasm posted:

I'm surprised no one pointed it out yet

Detective Pikachu spoilers Pokemon fusion is coming for Gen 8

Zore posted:

Its been canon since Red/Green

Chill Penguin posted:

Is there a reason people need to post about the anime in this thread? Isn't there an entire subforum for the discussion of anime? Surely there must be a Pokémon thread in ADTRW.

Araxxor posted:

Burn down the entire mobile games market.

RatHat posted:

In the series with the tagline "Catch 'em all!" you literally can't Catch them all.

Regalingualius posted:

Actually, I wonder if this is supposed to be a sneaky way of finally removing Stealth Rock.

Dehry posted:

https://www.usgamer.net/articles/pokemon-sword-and-shield-interview

quote:

But yeah, it was pretty much just balancing and getting this optimal selection of Pokemon for the adventure we wanted to provide.

mandatory lesbian posted:

the only reason they adhere to a strict release schedule is the need to make as a much money as possible to the detriment of the customer's desires. obviously, we must end capitalism to free the pokemon

Electric Phantasm posted:

Wingull are terrifying now.

https://i.imgur.com/uepSF2D.gifv

Their wings not moving freak me out.

Farecoal posted:

Magnezone is not great and I don't let my Magnetons ever evolve

The Bee posted:

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if Pokemon got some hefty content updates. Fellow 3DS alumnus turned disappointing Switch release Kirby went from a middling entry to the biggest Kirby game yet, with a ton of unique models and ability sets never present in Kirby games before. I can't imagine a flagship series like Pokemon would get less attention.

Flopsy posted:

And makes Mega evolutions into straight up body horror for...uhhh lore reasons I guess. gently caress man I'm tired.

Zore posted:

Way too many extraneous legendaries, loving up the level curve so that it still has 8/10 of the Pokemon with highest required levels to evolve which makes many of them almost impossible to use in game, horrible pacing on Pokemon variety for the first two gyms and locking almost a full quarter of the Dex to post gym 7, the start of locking normal rear end pokemon like Zorua behind events, the start of locking TMs behind events, and the really poorly implemented seasons gimmick. Also loving N. Just literally everything about N.


You know its bad when your revised 3rd version has to throw in half a dozen Pokemon at literally half they level they normally evolve at to let people actually use them.

Zore posted:

Making two dozen Pokemon lines that are incredibly weak until they evolve in the late game sucks. It sucked even in B/W because it means you can't actually have a Pawniard or Deino on your team because they loving suck until they evolve literally at the Elite 4. Trying to use any of the coolest Pokemon is a goddamn fools errand and that is the worst indictment of a Pokemon game that can exist.

Magikarp is only tolerable when its a Magikarp for a small portion of the game, not when you have to baby it for 8+ gyms. Especially when the Gyarados isn't even particularly strong!

Zore posted:

Yeah, and locking any TMs is incredibly lovely.

It was also bad in Gen 4, but we were only talking about the games post Gen 5. Plus Gen 4 had a larger National Pokedex so the legendaries took up comparatively less of it wheras they're a huge portion of Unova.

Zore posted:

Hydreigon
Volcarona
Briavary
Vanilluxe
Meinshao
Bisharp
Noivern
Klinklang
Beeheyem
Lampent
Golurk
Tynamo
Frillish
Ferroseee
Gothorita
Solosis

Are the ones I'm specifically talking about. Some of them do evolve after 6 gyms, but thats uh still a huge amount of time to be dragging along a Pokemon on par with a stage 1 starter stats-wise.

I like most of those Pokemon and its not fun to try to use them in game, which sucks.

Blaziken386 posted:

Tynamo has really lovely stats, TBH. I agree that they should've balanced it out a little better, if only because you get the thunderstone you need to evolve it in the cave you catch it in. It's in its second stage for all of five minutes.

Zore posted:

You should try to actually use some of them in game from a lower level. Its awful. Like Rufflet is available at level 9 in SuMo and its awful by by the time your team is 30. Then it has another 24 levels to evolution.

Good call on Noibat/Noivern, I forgot they were Gen 6.

Zore posted:

Gen VII reimplemented the Gen V exp scale. Gen VI was just a weird step back for some reason

Bongo Bill posted:

Incidentally, this is most likely to be the "balance" that they were talking about when it comes to fitting older pokemon into the new generation. It takes design work to make changes to move lists, evolution levels, etc., and if skipping a generation for some means more capacity for integrating others into the game, that's a reasonable trade-off.

Elfgames posted:

cool that's not the kind of balance they mean

Blaze Dragon posted:

It's less that the Gen 5 sprites are pretty and more that they have a lot of personality in their movement.

Contrast with the modern 3D models that are very clean but also pretty boring in action, with unimpressive poses that show nothing about the Pokémon they represent and some even lack important details like Typhlosion's or Blaziken's flames.

less laughter posted:

Golett is series mascot worthy

oddium posted:

get rid of pokémon battles

TheKingofSprings posted:

Baseless pessimism is pointless, but there's clearly a basis for it here and it's perfectly reasonable to say "this looks bad" when what the developers are selectively picking and choosing to show looks bad!

If you don't like people being negative about something you're free to tune out if you want! Nobody's stopping you and that might in fact be a really sensible thing to do, but you're not the arbiter of whether or not something's valid or meaningful when it comes to other people's complaints about a billion dollar company being really loving lazy and inept.

Alxprit posted:

Fine. I'll come back when there's better news.

SyntheticPolygon posted:

What was incomplete about Sun and Moon? They were pretty good and well received Pokemon games I feel? I don't understand this new narrative that Gamefreak has been in freefall for a decade and that Gen VII was worse than Gen VI and Gen VIII is continuing the trend. Like in what world was S/M more rushed than X and Y?


I think it's pretty silly to think that just because Gamefreak is not spending as much time on making Pokemon models that they'll use that extra time to flesh out the rest of the game. I don't think it's necessarily the case that because there's less work in one area that there will be more work in other areas of the game.


E:


What is there to suggest SwSh will have less new things than any other new pokemon game? I expect it will have about as much new pokemon as Sun and Moon or X and Y and the same amount of new moves and new mechanics or whatever.

Zuzie posted:

Who would have thunk that coding in 100 to 300 Pokemon in 4 and a half months would be outright impossible, especially when the game is already in a finished state?

Funky Valentine posted:

The next time someone asks about it, Game Freak will prune twenty more Pokemon from SwSh.

Funky Valentine posted:

The fight raged on for a century
Many lives were claimed but eventually
The champion stood, the rest saw their better
Happiny in a blood-stained sweater

Blaze Dragon posted:

If you meant it as a joke, congratulations, you've genuinely made me laugh incredibly hard.

If you meant it seriously, may I suggest our LP subforum? Specifically, the threads for "Reborn" and "Rejuvenation". Or, if you want something archived, the LP Archive has "Uranium".

Takoluka posted:

Have we really reached the point of "A Pokémon might not be in a new game, so future mainline series games will be worse than Snakewood?"

Cipher Pol 9 posted:

"Pokemon Home might have battling" is pie-in-the-sky idealist nonsense but "A Pokemon that I like might not be available in Sword/Shield and therefore mainline Pokemon games are going to be worse than lovely fangames" is a perfectly reasonable conclusion. God bless.

I'm gonna miss Mega Heracross too but I'll live with him not being available in one title just like I lived through every other monster, variant, or feature that hasn't made the jump between generations. It's sad, but the whole reason this has to happen is that there's going to be over one thousand of these things now. There are other options. Relax, find a new friend to bring along this time, enjoy yourself. Then hope your fave will be back next year. Or skip all those steps and Sword/Shield and just do the last bit for a year.

sharrrk posted:

i think dynamaxing is dumb and don't know why they feel the need to keep making new gimmicks every gen. mega evolution was good and they should have just kept going with that

For_Great_Justice posted:

The technical issue is the one they dug themselves though I don't see why its a defense, the entire point is add new stuff to capture.

The meta will fluctuate but once primals and legends are allowed its always the same few. The hoen trio is there every time. Maybe ax a few legendaries an let other stuff on.

Cipher Pol 9 posted:

Vew few people did. I remember little to no complaints during the initial reveal either. But once the National Dex controversy occured, people started picking the hell out of every frame they could find so they could further justify their anger. That's why anytime someone says "They got rid of Stantler for this?!" you can be guaranteed they are about to show you Wingull, Scorbunny, or the Tree.

Bleck posted:

I hope there is not a person around who would sacrifice more pokemon for more particle effects

Licarn posted:

I would gladly sacrifice most of Gen 2 for nothing, so getting particle effects in return would be gravy.

Funky Valentine posted:

I would throw all of Gen 2 and honestly like half of Gen 4 on the pyre if it meant that there would be more pretty lights in my Pokemon game.