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Who should have won All-Stars?
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Monet X Change 17 12.41%
Trinity the Tuck 36 26.28%
club96 84 61.31%
Total: 137 votes
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Pinwiz11
Jan 26, 2009

I'm becom-, I'm becom-,
I'm becoming
Tana in, Tana in my mind.



On one hand I'm happy that Lucian is either getting back to himself or realizes he needs a lot of help.

On the other... Gurl, wha?

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QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.
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Fleta Mcgurn posted:

As do I, I just don't know what his rant is referring to. Did he do something? What happened?

Right before the 2016 election he posted a bunch of racist stuff calling people the nword, posting his flaccid dick pics, and saying the Clintons murderers and stuff (I'll give him that last one). He may have also said some transphobic stuff, I don't remember. But basically it was a very messy public meltdown where he didn't log off until he was permanently banned from Twitter.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.

QuickbreathFinisher posted:

Right before the 2016 election he posted a bunch of racist stuff calling people the nword, posting his flaccid dick pics, and saying the Clintons murderers and stuff (I'll give him that last one). He may have also said some transphobic stuff, I don't remember. But basically it was a very messy public meltdown where he didn't log off until he was permanently banned from Twitter.

Holy poo poo. Thanks for the explanation.

resting mitch face
Apr 9, 2005

5) I hear you.
Lucian is also a Sandy Hook denier and suggested that maybe [satan voice] ARIANA GRANDE [/satan voice] had something to do with the bombing that killed 22 people at her show.


Question tho. Hasn't he claimed the weed defense before?

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.
WHAT

I loving...

Just...

drat.

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

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resting mitch face posted:

Lucian is also a Sandy Hook denier and suggested that maybe [satan voice] ARIANA GRANDE [/satan voice] had something to do with the bombing that killed 22 people at her show.


Question tho. Hasn't he claimed the weed defense before?

WOW lmao I completely missed these two somehow.

But yes I think he mentioned weed psychosis after one of the particularly bad meltdowns.

QuickbreathFinisher fucked around with this message at 13:49 on Dec 26, 2019

ICHIBAHN
Feb 21, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Oh yeah he's completely out there. If there's a bizarre hateful theory out there, he believes it

nunsexmonkrock
Apr 13, 2008
If any thread would appreciate this, I think this is the one. RIP Devine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFiqO0Qpa_g

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Divine.

nunsexmonkrock
Apr 13, 2008

Yes, stupid phone auto correcting things to the wrong poo poo. Here is another: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd2Gzkkwe9Q

A God Damn Ghost
Nov 25, 2007

booyah!
I took a break from drag race for a while and I just got around to watching DRUK, I'm up to snatch game now. Oh my god how refreshing it is! It's so lighthearted and joyful, I think the judging is mostly about right so far, they aren't overselling the drama or the social justice corner or axing someone good to make way for someone else's storyline, it just feels much less heavily edited and like the queens are having so much fun. It's a showcase of drag talent. I love this season and DDC in particular.

I think the Vivienne's Trump impression was incredibly good but I'm still pretty tired of it as a thing. But I'm an American so that probably doesn't help that I see like 50x more of it.

It got me thinking about playing male characters in Snatch Game. I do think the Vivienne's Trump character was dragged up enough to feel like it fit in Snatch Game, despite not being a person tied to gay culture, which I generally prefer. But it felt like a performance of that brand of toxic hypermasculinity that turns around into being super camp, so it felt like it fit. Whereas I did not think Sum Ting's Attenborough fit at all. Maybe that was due to her giving a weak performance, but I didn't get much in the way of a performance of gender or queerness or camp, so it felt out of place for me. I think there's something worth exploring in the crusty old male British academic/explorer archetype. I guess this is turning into a What Is Drag? post, sorry, ha.

DDC for the crown.

ICHIBAHN
Feb 21, 2007

by Cyrano4747
The Vivienne is taking her cancellation really badly

zelah
Dec 1, 2004

Diabetes, you are not invited to my pizza party.
Wait she’s canceled now too?

ICHIBAHN
Feb 21, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Yep. Used the term "fishy" on TV then logged on to twitter dot com to fix it

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

I'm on a twitter break, can someone post some screenshots for me to enjoy.

I've only just clocked that fishy is dodgy af because fish is a derogatory term for women.

ICHIBAHN
Feb 21, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Also transphobic

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


^SHTPSTS

Gary’s Answer

notaspy posted:

I'm on a twitter break, can someone post some screenshots for me to enjoy.

I've only just clocked that fishy is dodgy af because fish is a derogatory term for women.

Don't feel too bad, it's only recently that anybody has bothered to listen when non cismale queers talk about poo poo that bothers us.

ICHIBAHN posted:

Also transphobic

This too. Hollow Eve wasn't wrong when they said that the term embodied the assumption that women and vaginas are an inextricably linked thing.

Behind Maslow
Apr 11, 2008

I'm rewatching season 2 and a few observations:

-Raven's phone call with his mom felt akward. When she answered she didn't know who he was. I don't know if it was bad editing or what, but I cringed.

-Jujubee is trashed during her lip sync with Sahara and it's amazing. I heard that she drank everyones drinks during Untucked and this created a rule of amounts of alcohol consumed.

-Morgan seems so boring. She was boring even in AS3. This is weird because I've seen YouTube videos of her and she always turns it out. Like Drag Race Morgan is bland, and outside she is outstanding. Don't know why.

-it sucks that Sahara passed. She was super talented and I think would have killed on AS.

-Jujubee is still one of my favories.

-Tyra still deserved the win.

caligulamprey
Jan 23, 2007

It never stops.

Behind Maslow posted:

I'm rewatching season 2 and a few observations:
Shadiest moment of the season is the mini-challenge where they match baby pictures, but Mystique's has her adult head photoshopped onto a baby. They show off everyone guffawing at this and then afterwards Ru tells everyone that they did this because all of Mystique's family photos burned in a house fire. Stone cold.

Pinwiz11
Jan 26, 2009

I'm becom-, I'm becom-,
I'm becoming
Tana in, Tana in my mind.



FINALLY

https://twitter.com/WorldOfWonder/status/1214681952516591616

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




I wonder which we're getting first.

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺
Reddit says we are getting celebrity drag race/as5/season 12 in that order and they seem to somehow have their poo poo together about this one thing

It’s weird how they seem to always film all stars last but air it first but I assume there’s some sensible production reason I’m not aware of

Bushido Brown
Mar 30, 2011

Rumor is S12 before AS5 now. Which, more time between AS seasons could be good.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Bushido Brown posted:

Rumor is S12 before AS5 now. Which, more time between AS seasons could be good.

Could be good if they hadn't already filmed it. Alas.

Bushido Brown
Mar 30, 2011

esperterra posted:

Could be good if they hadn't already filmed it. Alas.

Yeah, wouldn't change anything for AS5, but could maybe improve AS6 if that's the new pattern.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!

Malcolm Turnbeug posted:

Reddit says we are getting celebrity drag race/as5/season 12 in that order and they seem to somehow have their poo poo together about this one thing

It’s weird how they seem to always film all stars last but air it first but I assume there’s some sensible production reason I’m not aware of

Any word on who is on Celebrity Drag Race, and what the format is?

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

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Nihonniboku posted:

Any word on who is on Celebrity Drag Race, and what the format is?

Not as far as I know but I haven’t been too deep into the spoiler sub, presumably their normal methodology of tracking cancelled gigs is a bit harder when the recruitment pool is a broad category like ‘anyone remotely famous’

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




I think it's supposed to be more like Drag U.

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

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esperterra posted:

I think it's supposed to be more like Drag U.

I kind of hope not but maybe that’s just drag u leaving a bad taste in my mouth, I think a show about drag that doesn’t treat it as a contest would be really good but I don’t have faith in wow or ru Paul to pull it off

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!

Malcolm Turnbeug posted:

I kind of hope not but maybe that’s just drag u leaving a bad taste in my mouth, I think a show about drag that doesn’t treat it as a contest would be really good but I don’t have faith in wow or ru Paul to pull it off

Yeah, the stories that Julie Goldman used to tell on the Gay Pimp podcast about her time on Drag U were really terrible. If I remember correctly, when they weren't filming, they made her stay in basically a closet with a folding chair and no food or water. She had no say in how they dressed her, it was all pre planned. She thought that production treated her terribly, and she never wanted any involvement with the show again.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




tote up a bags
Jun 8, 2006

die stoats die


This is the moment Ginger became president

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.
Ru got so mad lmaooooo

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺
People say season 7 was forgettable but I can perfectly remember the look on his face saying ‘that show helped a lot of people’

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.
Season 7 was loving awesome and I'll defend it for days. *"dances" away like Pearl*

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺
Yeah I like the cast a lot it was a fine season it just feels very disconnected from previous seasons for some reason. I’d like to blame the untucked change but I wasn’t watching untucked alongside the show until I got to season 8 and was watching it week by week

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.
I think part of it comes from people disliking Violet and a lot of people not wanting Pearl to have gone as far as she did (which...I disagree, but...understandable.) If you look at the cast list alone, it was an incredible loving season!

blizzardvizard
Sep 12, 2012

Shhh... don't wake up the sleeping lion :3:

The cast was amazing but the challenges suuuuuucked. When Violet said that she was "sick of these group acting challenges" she summed it up. Fashion was mainly the cast's strong suit to begin with and we only got a total of one (1) sewing challenge, plus the acting challenges were just horrible and unfunny.

If Season 7 had gotten a healthy amount of sewing challenges like we've been getting recently it would've been an incredible season.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.

blizzardvizard posted:

The cast was amazing but the challenges suuuuuucked. When Violet said that she was "sick of these group acting challenges" she summed it up. Fashion was mainly the cast's strong suit to begin with and we only got a total of one (1) sewing challenge, plus the acting challenges were just horrible and unfunny.

If Season 7 had gotten a healthy amount of sewing challenges like we've been getting recently it would've been an incredible season.

Yeah, the acting challenges were extremely bad, which is odd because I feel like it was a very strong Snatch Game overall. But acting challenges are always horrendous- "Breast World," anyone? I've seen elementary school ESL presentations that were more coherent than that poo poo.

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Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!

blizzardvizard posted:

The cast was amazing but the challenges suuuuuucked. When Violet said that she was "sick of these group acting challenges" she summed it up. Fashion was mainly the cast's strong suit to begin with and we only got a total of one (1) sewing challenge, plus the acting challenges were just horrible and unfunny.

If Season 7 had gotten a healthy amount of sewing challenges like we've been getting recently it would've been an incredible season.

Yeah, I think this was a big part of it.

But, I'll also share my pet theory again. Ru has a strong idea of who she wants to win each year, and who is just cannon fodder. She wouldn't put her two favorites in one season because she'll just save that winner for next season. On the other end, some of these voted first out are generally messes. Does she really think they have what it takes to earn the crown? Hell no. But she is making a TV show, and somebody has to go home first.

This was first challenged in season 4 when she planned on giving Chad Michaels the crown. But then Sharon Needles came along, and surprised everyone. Having performed strongly, being a favorite of the fans, and the main opponent of the season villain PhiPhi, there would have been a revolt had she not crowned Sharon.

Her plan was foiled again in season 7. She planned to give the crown to Kennedy Davenport. But Kennedy just wasn't bringing it. She struggled in several challenges, and was put in the top in instances when she clearly should have been in the bottom. Ru was dragging Kennedy's corpse to the finish line until she could no longer justify Kennedy taking the crown, and Kennedy was cut loose. She had already cut fan favorite Katya. She hated Pearl. Ginger's negativity had soured her reputation with the fans. Leaving her with Violet?

Now, I think Violet has since redeemed herself, and I think that she was worthy of the win. But we got to the final 3, and there was a collective MEH.

Fleta Mcgurn posted:

Yeah, the acting challenges were extremely bad, which is odd because I feel like it was a very strong Snatch Game overall. But acting challenges are always horrendous- "Breast World," anyone? I've seen elementary school ESL presentations that were more coherent than that poo poo.

I don't understand why they just don't bring in some actual comedians to punch up those scripts some. I'm sure Joel Kim Booster or Mano Agapian would absolutely love to get in there and help out.

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