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Expecting that an experienced player like toal couldn't get their head around the mechanic of their role... is that plausible?
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And to not sound so harsh but I do think Toal is a GOOD scum player. I mean, they bamboozled me in their last game but if theyre playing town right now, they're not very good with how many mistakes they claimed to make and how aggravating their posts are.
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Tired Moritz posted:Its very obvious that Toal saw the nk and decide to bait the doc out. They know they can get away from bullshit because they're good at playing dumb and throwing so many theories at people that everyone get mixed up. The doc (mona) had already claimed..... I wouldn't need to do anything.... to do that.... As I said before and every time all the time. I submitted my action and mod told me I got it wrong. I had to choose one person to protect, like a doc, and one to kill. The role is not literally called 'doctor', and I never thought it was literally a vanilla doctor. I introduced myself as the doctor of the game because I assumed there would only be one protection role in the game, because I do protect people and protections are powerful. Again. Proving that I'm dumb because I claimed to attempt to counter claim a doctor with it doesn't prove that my role is scum or that I'm playing a scum game.
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Mar 14, 2019 01:32
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b-minus1 posted:youll have to wait until tomorrpw sorry something something i'll mysteriously die in the night and you don't have to make a case because nobody will ever call you on it
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Mar 14, 2019 01:32
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Why are people voting toal? The role claim? It being mishandled? No night kill?
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Mar 14, 2019 01:33
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Tm jails toal Toal attempts to redirect mona and soda Solus claims targeting mona. Soda gunsmiths successfully but is redirected to self? Mona fails and solus fails. Hmmm 
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Mar 14, 2019 01:33
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The implication that someone walked in a role madness game and didnt read their role PM properly is mindboggling.
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Mar 14, 2019 01:34
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Tm jails toal No. Soda didnt redirect. Mona got redirected back to self.
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Mar 14, 2019 01:34
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Tm jails toal Soda successfully gunsmithed Dancer, and got 'no gun' we don't know who dancer masoned yet.
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Mar 14, 2019 01:35
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If you all keep me alive today I can literally make sure Mona doesn't die and we can protect each other and cheese scum.
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Mar 14, 2019 01:36
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That's the reality of the situation why scum are coming down on me/voting and walking away. Lol.
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Mar 14, 2019 01:37
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The last game we had a million backups, I have no idea how you can walk in so cockily and say that youre the "protective role" unless you got more information than everyone else.
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Mar 14, 2019 01:38
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So mona failed because of self doc? That's bizarre? Unless there is a town and scum jailer there has to be a liar in soda solus mona and toal. Only way solus fails is if mona is jailed, or mona is blocked and solus are blocked independently of one another. Tm jails toal Toal targs mona and soda Soda gunzmiths dancer Birb busdrives mona and soda?? Mona self docs but fails Solus targets mona and fails. Something here is bullshit
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Mar 14, 2019 01:39
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Oh I guess birb could be lying too
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Mar 14, 2019 01:40
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Hey maybe Toal is a self-redirector.
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Mar 14, 2019 01:40
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I'm like 95% sure scum are mostly on me unless they are exercising EXTREME restraint lol. TM I'm just like this, I assume there's 1 of each type unless there's a special gimmick because there's a lot of roles in mafia and 16 players is not enough to exhaust them all without overlap. I make stupid setup spec all the time, its what I do. Mona also claimed under pressure with vague details, so I thought it was a real catch.
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Mar 14, 2019 01:41
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Tired Moritz posted:Hey maybe Toal is a self-redirector. See like what is this? There is absolutely no evidence for this. lmao. Anomalous Amalgam posted:So mona failed because of self doc? That's bizarre? Unless there is a town and scum jailer there has to be a liar in soda solus mona and toal. Why wouldn't someone role blocking solus or something be possible. I don't understand.
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Mar 14, 2019 01:43
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Oh I guess birb could be lying too I'm comfortable with a no lynch at this point now i know toal was jailed.
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Mar 14, 2019 01:44
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Tired Moritz posted:Guys, toal might be a simple self-redirector. Did you jail someone other than toal? How would a self direct proc if you jailed toal.
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Mar 14, 2019 01:45
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Toalpaz posted:See like what is this? There is absolutely no evidence for this. lmao. It's more of why is mona's result a failure. That seems nonstandard for a self doc result.
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Mar 14, 2019 01:46
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i hurt myself in my confusion
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Mar 14, 2019 01:46
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Tired Moritz posted:Hey maybe Toal is a self-redirector. I don't get what you mean. If you jailed toal then toal was jailed?
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Mar 14, 2019 01:46
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Did you jail someone other than toal? How would a self direct proc if you jailed toal. Probably comes down to the mod
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Mar 14, 2019 01:46
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Toalpaz posted:If you all keep me alive today I can literally make sure Mona doesn't die and we can protect each other and cheese scum. Ps: I dont like this post. It's a very "dont vote me" post. The quick change from thinking youre the only protective role to "actually we can like totally cheese scum if I keep living DONT KILL ME" feels very not town. No conviction.
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Mar 14, 2019 01:47
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Given my role its unlikely that people can self doc. I can't protect myself.
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Mar 14, 2019 01:47
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:It's more of why is mona's result a failure. That seems nonstandard for a self doc result. What would take priority? A bus or a jail?
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Mar 14, 2019 01:47
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Did you jail someone other than toal? How would a self direct proc if you jailed toal. I was thinking like toal has a passive that redirects any ability that was used on them onto others. Toalpaz posted:See like what is this? There is absolutely no evidence for this. lmao. Oh, so you can throw five hundred theories but I can't even throw one? Nice.
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Mar 14, 2019 01:49
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I don't really know what is going on. 
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Mar 14, 2019 01:49
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Hey toal, why are you asking to be spared when you threatened to self hammer earlier?
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Mar 14, 2019 01:50
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Toalpaz posted:Given my role its unlikely that people can self doc. I can't protect myself. *This is also why I believe Mona now. Because the Bern bus to himself makes sense with the protection limitations that I have too, and mona claimed action failure early.
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Mar 14, 2019 01:50
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hambeet posted:Hey toal, why are you asking to be spared when you threatened to self hammer earlier? I was very emotional before and I had a good nights rest and felt better. I was also at -2
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Mar 14, 2019 01:50
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hambeet posted:What would take priority? A bus or a jail? Player 1 TM jails Player 2 Toal Player 2 Toal allegedly deathswaps Player 3 Mona and Player 4 Soda Player 5 Birb bus drove mona and soda In this situation. The bus from mona would occur before the block and a redirect after the block. Sooo toal couldn't have self directed mona or anyone else if TM jailed.
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Mar 14, 2019 01:57
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Player 1 TM jails Player 2 Toal The bus from birb would occur.* And if toal was lying and it resolves like a bus, then mona would have failed, but mona would have been the only target, why implicate soda at all? What incentive is there to overcomplicate what would be a lie.
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Mar 14, 2019 01:59
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The only way toal self redirected is if toal is scum and it would have to resolve as a bus on the stack. Otherwise it is impossible.
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Mar 14, 2019 02:00
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That being the case that means solus probably role roleblocked mona and claimed a failed action thinking mona was jailed. That's my theory.
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Mar 14, 2019 02:00
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:That being the case that means solus probably role roleblocked mona and claimed a failed action thinking mona was jailed. Not thinking, but knowing mona had been blocked and using the confusion.
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Mar 14, 2019 02:01
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hey tM, whats your flavor
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Mar 14, 2019 02:01
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:The only way toal self redirected is if toal is scum and it would have to resolve as a bus on the stack. Otherwise it is impossible. Okay so this is the solution.
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##vote binus Since this night action mafia is confusing me, I'm gonna vote the person who promised ~A CASE~ on me and hasn't delivered. Plus I don't even know what the gently caress with Toal.
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