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Mutant Headcrab
May 14, 2007
Just read issue 2 of the Marvel Alien comic. I don't like it. The characters are awful, the art continues to be bad, and part of the plot makes no sense to me.

Spoilers for Issue 2: So the artist's self-insert is chewed out for letting his son steal his (still active despite being retired) security card. He's told to go up and retrieve a sample before they scuttle the station as it's gone to poo poo. He asks for a team of synthetics, but the corporate dude is like, "Nah, you hosed up and you're getting just two "operatives." Even if the mission is mostly punitive, if this sample is important enough to be retrieved in the midst of an infestation, why aren't they committing more than just three people?

Also the protagonist is made fun of for being old, despite being built like a brick shithouse. This comic is bad.

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The Last Call
Sep 9, 2011

Rehabilitating sinner

Mutant Headcrab posted:

Just read issue 2 of the Marvel Alien comic. I don't like it. The characters are awful, the art continues to be bad, and part of the plot makes no sense to me.

Spoilers for Issue 2: So the artist's self-insert is chewed out for letting his son steal his (still active despite being retired) security card. He's told to go up and retrieve a sample before they scuttle the station as it's gone to poo poo. He asks for a team of synthetics, but the corporate dude is like, "Nah, you hosed up and you're getting just two "operatives." Even if the mission is mostly punitive, if this sample is important enough to be retrieved in the midst of an infestation, why aren't they committing more than just three people?

Also the protagonist is made fun of for being old, despite being built like a brick shithouse. This comic is bad.

I found it inoffensive, it's a typical Alien comic.

I do agree with your spoiler stuff. That is pretty dumb.

Paddyo
Aug 3, 2007

Owlbear Camus posted:

Biehn deserved way more work than I feel like he ended up getting. He's so good in everything.

Typing those sentences reminded me I haven't watched Tombstone in a while. That one has just an absolutely bonkers good cast. Everyone is in the motherfucker.

Michael Biehn is supposed to be a guest at a comic con in my area this summer. I'm not interested in autographs or any of that fan stuff, but I kind of feel like waiting in line just to tell him how great I think some of his roles have been, and how much enjoyment I've gotten out of them over the years. Whatever new media format comes out next, you'd better believe that some of the first movies that I buy / download/ ingest/ whatever will be Aliens, Tombstone, Abyss, and Terminator.

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



Inject those Aliens straight into my eyeballs, ‘Pitch Black’ style.

Also Alien Day is coming up in a few days, April 26th.

Yvershek
Nov 15, 2000

and there are no
diamonds in the
mine
Been sitting on this for a while, but my mom walked into Ripley losing Newt and then confronting the queen before narrowly escaping. It is literally the only time I''ve seen her being edge of your seat fully engaged with a movie. She hates action films.

I started with my Dad watching the first film. The chest bursting scene was somehow a complete surprise to him.

Joe Chill
Mar 21, 2013

"What's this dance called?"

"'Radioactive Flesh.' It's the latest - and the last!"
Playing Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun for the first time and I didn't realize Michael Biehn was in it. Now I feel like watching Aliens.


Yvershek posted:

Been sitting on this for a while, but my mom walked into Ripley losing Newt and then confronting the queen before narrowly escaping. It is literally the only time I''ve seen her being edge of your seat fully engaged with a movie. She hates action films.

I started with my Dad watching the first film. The chest bursting scene was somehow a complete surprise to him.

This is great!

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Joe Chill posted:

Now I feel like watching Aliens.

You should always feel like watching Aliens.

Joe Chill posted:

This is great!


it really is.

Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

Trolling Link for a decade


He was pretty good in that guest shot as Lang in the Mandalorian episode "the Jedi" as yet another world weary mercenary for hire..

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica

Binary Badger posted:

He was pretty good in that guest shot as Lang in the Mandalorian episode "the Jedi" as yet another world weary mercenary for hire..

Yeah he seemed pretty tired from all those star wars.

But he is great. I mostly remember him as Corporal Hicks with Real Battle Damage, and he was pretty weary there.

In the Abyss he played a better bomb than the actual bomb though. Lots of range.

Ghostnuke
Sep 21, 2005

Throw this in a pot, add some broth, a potato? Baby you got a stew going!


his quiet mental break in The Abyss is scarier than anything in that movie.

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel
Agreed. He was fantastic and scary as poo poo.

Floodixor
Aug 22, 2003

Forums Electronic MusiciaBRRRIIINGYIPYIPYIPYIP
I can't remember where I saw this but as far as genre description, I've heard of the series described as such:

Alien: horror
Aliens: action/adventure
Alien 3: thriller
Alien 4: fantasy

Largely attributed to the directors and what they generally produce.

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica

Floodixor posted:

I can't remember where I saw this but as far as genre description, I've heard of the series described as such:

Alien: horror
Aliens: action/adventure
Alien 3: thriller
Alien 4: fantasy

Largely attributed to the directors and what they generally produce.

Alien: existential horror dread
Aliens: same + action
Alien3: psychological thriller
Alien 4: French

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel
Both of those are correct.

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

I think my mass effect is broken

BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:

Alien: existential horror dread
Aliens: same + action
Alien3: psychological thriller
Alien 4: French

Alien: existential horror, specifically "your sexual anxieties and hang-ups are coming to kill you. And also sex you, but in a really icky and unpleasant way."
Aliens: War
Alein3: existential horror, namely "your loved ones are always a hair's breadth away from dying horrible deaths and there's gently caress-all you can do about it. Also, you're going to die sooner or later. Have fun with that."
Alien 4: Merde

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

Alien: porn
Aliens: porn
Alien 3: porn
Alien resurrection: french

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

Biplane posted:

Alien: porn
Aliens: porn
Alien 3: porn
Alien resurrection: french
Please do not summon the horny xenomorph posting

Robert Facepalmer
Jan 10, 2019


Alien: donut
Aliens: box of Timbits
Alien 3: brookie
Alien Resurrection: croissant

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

Splicer posted:

Please do not summon the horny xenomorph posting

You do not need to summon them. They are always near

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel

Splicer posted:

Please do not summon the horny xenomorph posting

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

Robert Facepalmer posted:

Alien: donut
Aliens: box of Timbits
Alien 3: brookie
Alien Resurrection: croissant
Alien: Mystery donut, unknown filling. Enjoyable but tense.
Aliens: Big flashy outside, surprisingly nuanced flavour.
Alien 3: Bitter coating, unpleasant filling, possibly toxic.
Alien 3 revised: Bitter coating, mostly pleasant filling, contaminants slightly above FDA limits.
Alien 4: Monster Energy and Doritos flavoured with creamy filling "personally manufactured and injected" by Joss Whedon.

Android Apocalypse
Apr 28, 2009

The future is
AUTOMATED
and you are
OBSOLETE

Illegal Hen

Robert Facepalmer posted:

Alien: donut
Aliens: box of Timbits
Alien 3: brookie
Alien Resurrection: croissant

I don't know what a brookie is but now I kind of want to try it.

Well, even that is dependent on whether it's original or assembly cut brookie.

EDIT: I have made a Mountain Dew flavored cake with Doritos crumbled topping for a friend's birthday and it was not as horrible as we expected. Honestly the analogy to Alien: Resurrection still tracks.

Android Apocalypse fucked around with this message at 15:28 on Apr 23, 2021

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?
An original cut brookie is made with dog milk

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

I did fall asleep reading a particularly erotic chapter
in my grandmother's journal.

She wrote very detailed descriptions of her experiences...

zenguitarman posted:

On this thread's recommendation I bought The Making Of Aliens book and it's really great and revealed a lot of things I didn't know/realize about the movie, even from watching the DVD extras and the Alien Theory YouTube.

First of all, the book is massive and weighs a ton



I never knew how involved Cameron was with literally everything. His concept art looks really good, and he even worked on miniatures and SFX too! He strikes me as a guy (at the time of shooting Aliens) that's so good at everything that he doesn't understand how everyone else isn't as talented as he is (which almost doomed the whole production when the crew in England basically mutinied). This movie almost never happened multiple times over, especially in its nascent stage of studios passing around scripts and treatments. The one thing I don't think he really understood very well was what James Horner needed. I knew Horner was pressed for time to say the least, but Gale Anne Hurd and Cameron really screwed him over.

Another thing I learned from the book was that Al Matthews was a loving G. This is so good:


And I think these might have been posted before, but have some rejected taglines

Absolutely check out the author's book for Alien while you're at it. The bits from HR Giger's diary are worth it on their own.

Edit: VVVVVV Exactly hahaha

SidneyIsTheKiller fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Apr 23, 2021

AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

of a full load.



SidneyIsTheKiller posted:

Absolutely check out the author's book for Alien while you're at it. The bits from HR Giger's diary are worth it on their own.

quote:

August 5, 1976

Dear Diary,

A breakthrough at last! This design for an alien has had me stumped, when finally it hit me. Dicks! Dicks everywhere! Also the eggs should look like vulvas (vulvae?)

Skyfire
Jul 2, 2004

Alien Isolation is free for the next week on Epic Games, just in case you weren't thinking about Aliens....

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

August 6, 1976

Vulvas on the facerapers fuckers violators kissers cuddlers too

Pissed Ape Sexist
Apr 19, 2008

I've been thinking about Aliens since I was nine years old and I watched the original film with my grandpa, and was immediately hooked. There were no action figure lines available at that time and, by the time there were (even though I was right in their target market), I was old enough to recognize that they were cheesy as hell. Today I have realized a dream long dormant. Today I am a man.



S/He came with an egg which doubles as a wonderful pencil holder. Cheers, Big Chap.

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



Whoa whoa did you just call the old Kenner toys “cheesy as hell”? :toughguy:

Pissed Ape Sexist
Apr 19, 2008

Sorry, man, I know. I wanted Alien toys to help keep the vibe of the first movie as I remember feeling it-- not to expand outward into something else. The xeno for me was emblematic of the environment/feel of the whole larger experience instead of being a label slapped on a rhino/snake/gorilla/flying thing. And that just wasn't there when I was a pup.

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

Alien toychat reminded me of the first time I saw Predator. Can't have been more than 8 or 9 years old, but the neighbor kid had a vhs copy of it, and it blew our minds. Spent the rest of the day making grenade launchers and machine guns out of empty toilet paper rolls and ducttape. Good times.

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



Pissed Ape Sexist posted:

Sorry, man, I know. I wanted Alien toys to help keep the vibe of the first movie as I remember feeling it-- not to expand outward into something else. The xeno for me was emblematic of the environment/feel of the whole larger experience instead of being a label slapped on a rhino/snake/gorilla/flying thing. And that just wasn't there when I was a pup.

I will not stand for someone slandering the fantastic Kenner toys, those things were my childhood. :colbert:

Animal Friend
Sep 7, 2011

OK so I had the date wrong for seeing The Abyss in the theatre but I did go see it.

Honestly I feel the same I did the first time. It works as a fantastic hard sci-fi story (aside from the small appearance of the aliens) until the submarine/nuke chase scene. I adore the movie up until Brigman drowns. The cast is perfect, there's that classic Cameron feel of everything being real- catching the Making Of feature and seeing them actually invent new technology for underwater filming, plus all the sets they built and training the actors had to go through made me want to see it again. Michael Biehn slowly losing his mind is great, and Ed Harris pulls off a calm sincerity that anchors all the otherworldly concepts with a deep empathy that makes them easier for the audience to process. Cameron's still got a great balance of realistic characters, snappy dialogue and tense situations.

The last act of the film just drags though. The slow descent into the trench, then the movie suddenly turning into a Star Trek episode about aliens weighing in on the violent nature of humanity. The Mutually Assured Destruction thing takes such a backseat for so much of the movie that hanging the aliens and the entire conclusion of the film on it, after all the character tension has already been resolved, just feels so forced and out of place.

I do appreciate Cameron's absolute hatred of the military. Although in hindsight it's kind of hilarious that the heroes are trying to drill for oil given the fossil fuel industry is responsible for the current existential crisis the earth is facing.

The version I saw I think was the directors cut? It had the scenes with the huge waves, which I don't remember seeing the first time. Its such a weird upping of the stakes going from our scrappy team of divers taking on the MIC and the unknown on the edge of the world to... Aliens solving the cold war and threatening the world with tidal waves.

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



Happy Alien Day, friends!

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel
:toot::peanut::toot:

Kaiju Cage Match
Nov 5, 2012




Thinking about Aliens on Alien Day.

Android Apocalypse
Apr 28, 2009

The future is
AUTOMATED
and you are
OBSOLETE

Illegal Hen

Animal Friend posted:

OK so I had the date wrong for seeing The Abyss in the theatre but I did go see it.

Honestly I feel the same I did the first time. It works as a fantastic hard sci-fi story (aside from the small appearance of the aliens) until the submarine/nuke chase scene. I adore the movie up until Brigman drowns. The cast is perfect, there's that classic Cameron feel of everything being real- catching the Making Of feature and seeing them actually invent new technology for underwater filming, plus all the sets they built and training the actors had to go through made me want to see it again. Michael Biehn slowly losing his mind is great, and Ed Harris pulls off a calm sincerity that anchors all the otherworldly concepts with a deep empathy that makes them easier for the audience to process. Cameron's still got a great balance of realistic characters, snappy dialogue and tense situations.

The last act of the film just drags though. The slow descent into the trench, then the movie suddenly turning into a Star Trek episode about aliens weighing in on the violent nature of humanity. The Mutually Assured Destruction thing takes such a backseat for so much of the movie that hanging the aliens and the entire conclusion of the film on it, after all the character tension has already been resolved, just feels so forced and out of place.

I do appreciate Cameron's absolute hatred of the military. Although in hindsight it's kind of hilarious that the heroes are trying to drill for oil given the fossil fuel industry is responsible for the current existential crisis the earth is facing.

The version I saw I think was the directors cut? It had the scenes with the huge waves, which I don't remember seeing the first time. Its such a weird upping of the stakes going from our scrappy team of divers taking on the MIC and the unknown on the edge of the world to... Aliens solving the cold war and threatening the world with tidal waves.

If you saw the version where there's tidal waves that freeze mid-air, you saw the director's cut.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



The trouble with having an Aliens day so close to May the Fourth is people just get you one generic sci-fi gift and say it's for both.

Android Apocalypse
Apr 28, 2009

The future is
AUTOMATED
and you are
OBSOLETE

Illegal Hen
It's like being born in December & your parents combining your birthday and Christmas presents into one event.

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Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Android Apocalypse posted:

It's like being born in December & your parents combining your birthday and Christmas presents into one event.

:thejoke:

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