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MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Good grief, Biehn is either really drunk in that video in the OP, or he's had a stroke

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MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

The Zombie Guy posted:

(and here's a little something for you m*me loving fucks)



Oh poo poo, I can't believe it took this long, but it is perfect

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Yeah Reese didn’t do “tech stuff”

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Xenomrph posted:

From Dusk Til Dawn is another one to show people blind, because the vampire stuff comes out of loving nowhere.

HA! I actually managed this many years back with a friend. The ONLY thing she knew about it was that George Clooney was a criminal.

We were pretty drunk and high and the look on her face when Selma Hayek sprouts fangs was :discourse:

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Splicer posted:

Imagine going into Psycho unspoiled. Halfway through the film BAM main character murdered in the shower, suddenly you're watching a police procedural.

I have wished for so long I could have experienced this film without knowing anything about it. Imagine those 1960 theater audiences seeing it, Janet Leigh is the big star, and then she gets murdered halfway through, in an extremely disturbing (for the time) manner.

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Jay_Zombie posted:

If watching Steve Irwin has taught me anything, it's that that is the safest way to pick up a dangerous animal.

Crikey! Look that this bugger!
*picks up xeno by the tail*
Isn't he a beaaauuuuuty!
*inner jaw snaps at face*
Not that little mouth inside it's big mouth, that can punch through a human skull in one bite!!
*xeno impotently swipes with claws, just out of reach*
Look at those claws! They're razor sharp. You don't want those bad boys to get ahold of you.
*xeno hisses in frustration*
Now, normally these Xenomorphs live in a hive like community so it's safe to say that there's more of these babies creepy crawling around here somewhere, so we're going to let this one go an move on.
*gently lowers xeno back into the water where it, completely confused by what just happened, tentatively swims off*

LOL I've read this in his voice several times and cannot stop laughing.

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Has anyone ever tried the "fix" for Colonial Marines, where you change one character in the .ini file and it supposedly makes the alien AI better?

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

I'm not suspicious about it. I was wondering if it really makes a difference in the gameplay. I have the game in my Steam library but it's not installed, but I was thinking about giving it a whirl again if it really changes things for the better.

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

I just wish someone would make an adaptation with the powered armor.

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

This was the Starship Trooper game I played growing up, which I wish to hell I still had:

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/670/starship-troopers

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

mind the walrus posted:

How in the gently caress did this only make it online in 2020?

No poo poo!!!! Holy LOL, this is great!

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

If we are going to hornypost in here, we have to at least talk about Linda Hamilton in 1984. She was the most beautiful woman mine teenage eyes had ever seen.

Then, seven years later, she eclipsed herself in T2. Just as beautiful and also I felt like she might possibly be able to kick my rear end (I was a 22-year old Lance Corporal in the Marine Corps in 1991)

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Owlbear Camus posted:

The crew of the Independent cargo freighter USCSS Germaine Krull made it away from a game preserve planet of stalking alien trophy hunters without losing any of its crew. They didn't save anyone imperiled there ,aside from one junior Weyland Yutani executive, or score any salvage or treasure, but sometimes coming out with your skin intact is a win.

I actually listened to the whole thing! Sounds like a fun rpg.

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Owlbear Camus posted:

I'll put up part 2 just for you then. <3

I need to do some editing, I opened some inopportune windows during that sesh.

Sweet! My favorite player was the one who really adopted the jaded space trucker attitude: "Lady, I dunno poo poo about poo poo."

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Man I feel a deep sense of foreboding and anxiety, just at the initial menu screen of that game, when the music starts.

I was thoroughly traumatized by seeing Alien in the theater at the age of ten, and to this day something about that film and the xenos in general is seriously disturbing. When I got Isolation, I used to play it in the dark with headphones on (and often slightly high) and there were times I'd have to pause and get up and walk around just to calm down.

Good times.

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

I will never forget my first attempt at Medical. I had so many bad experiences I took to cowering in lockers. I just had so much trouble forcing myself to get out of there and move to the next goal.

Many times I would step out of the locker, take a few steps, then "NOPE" out, turn around, and dart right back inside. Sit in there, listening and peering out the slits saying "Welp, I guess this locker is my life now."

Of course, you know what eventually starts happening if you spend too much times in the lockers...

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Was this the thread wheres some folks were using a discord for comms and playing AvP?

And was it AvP2010?

If so, I have that in my Steam library, I would like to reinstall it and familiarize myself with it again, then join you, if I may.

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

I thought about Aliens and Predators so much a few days back that I bought the "predators: 3-movie collection" on blu-ray

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

BiggerBoat posted:

I think everyone did and I feel the same way. I remember liking it well enough and know it made a ton of cash but it's never quoted, referenced, memed or ever really even talked about. I don't even remember the main character's names.

You aren't the only one. It is the least-remembered most-successful picture of all time.

I thought it was wildly entertaining in its intended 3D format. Saw it twice in the theater, haven't spent a second thinking about it in the years since.

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Good Lord.

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

BiggerBoat posted:

Same. I just replayed it after never having beaten it and, tbh, it didn't feel that long. Matter of fact, then ending seemed rather abrupt. Could just be i had heard so much about the length. Agree they really nailed everything and that every fan of the movies should play it. Desperately want a sequel.

Only thing that seemed off a little was the THUMP THUMP THUMP hulking sound of the creature but I guess they needed that for game play purposes. I always interpreted the creatures as light - like insects - and very stealthy while moving.

EDIT:

ALso read this article on ALiens that I thought was good. Haven't seen it posted yet

https://film.avclub.com/aliens-is-nothing-like-alien-and-all-the-better-for-it-1798252777

Yeah, they had to make it noisy. Otherwise the game would be unplayable,you'd just be killed over and over.

I was thoroughly traumatized by seeing Alien in the theater at age ten, and playing this game as an old gave me the same kinds of feelings. When this game came out I would play it in a completely dark room while using mind-altering substances, and there were times when I would have to pause the game and get up and turn on the lights and walk around a bit, just to calm the gently caress down :roflolmao:

Just an incredibly awesome game, and the amount of love and attention to detail the dev team put into it is mind-boggling.

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

BiggerBoat posted:

A christmas tree totally covered in face huggers might actually get me to enjoy this rotten holiday, get up off my rear end and put up a loving tree.

My Dad and Stepmom got me this ornament for Christmas a few years back and it goes on the tree every year:

https://www.coolthings.com/hallmark-keepsake-ornaments-aliens-p-5000-power-loader/

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Owlbear Camus posted:

It was the 80's. Honestly not even in the top 3 for cringe brownface casting.

Honorary mention to Delta Force where Robert Forster does a turn as Abdul the plane-hijacking terrorist.


LOL, I know I saw this film back when it came out and I had no memory of this. Just looked up some clips on YouTube, and oh my goodness...

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Robert Facepalmer posted:

Thanks, OSHA thread!

Come on, now. Who among us has not drawn themselves as the hero in their own comic book

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Remulak posted:

Oh man I’m gonna pour one out for King Of The Squibs:

https://youtu.be/ZFvqDaFpXeM

And if you and friends never tried an ‘independent film’ shoot, a blasting cap under a blood filled rubber loving HURTS.

In retrospect, where the hell did that dude get a blasting cap, and why didn’t he put something under it?

I just love how 209 keeps firing long after the guy is clearly dead, no intention of stopping ever

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Torquemada posted:

with additional commentary from SMG about how the whole movie is an analogy for the struggle of the proletariat against the predatory rapaciousness of the corporate future.

I don’t know I’d you were joking or if you’ve seen it, but that has literally played out several times for years now

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Mutant Headcrab posted:

So the entire book is geared up for running a campaign for Colonial Marines. It has a story driven campaign that weaves a narrative across multiple worlds, dealing with everything from drat dirty space commies, to Engineer ruins, to secret off-the-book black ops facilities. It also has random tables and more bare bones scenarios to help create your own custom campaign, as well as notes on how to file the serial numbers of the story campaign for your own use.

Equipment wise, it gives stat blocks for new small arms, heavy ordinance, and vehicles (including tanks!) for both the USCMC and their equivalents in the 3WE, UPP, and ICSC. Same for starships, with some new information for Connestoga-class ships and new ships entirely for both the UA and UPP. Special appearance by the same ship class as the Betty from Alien Resurrection. There is new art for a chunk of the new equipment, but not all of it. Same with the ships, though the few that don't get art are likely not the kind you'll end up having players use.

There are new talents and starting classes (or Military Occupational Specialties) for Marine players. Things like medics, vehicle specialists, et.

There isn't much new as far as Xenos go. There's a new bio-engineered drone that has a built in expiration date and can't produce queens they sometimes survive the kill switch and they still reproduce through ovomorphosis. There's also a gross chestburster mutation that spreads a disease that makes you explode in a gore eruption. Anathema stat blocks if you missed them in Destroyer of Worlds. While xenomorphs and black goo are featured, a lot of the book is about the secret organizations on both sides of a rapidly heating cold war trying to be the first to actually weaponize xenomorphs.

Speaking of black goo, this book serves as a continuation of the events of the Destroyer of Worlds book. I'll be curious to see if this meta-plot continues to progress in future books.

*EDIT*

The Arcturian thing is settled once and for all. Arcturians are all but directly stated to be another Engineer project, look incredibly close to human, and share a lot of our genetics. Also on their planet are the Arcturas, the semi-intelligent cave apes from the old Leading Edge RPG.

I know this RPG is know for being extremely deadly for PCs, in terms of contact with the aliens. How does the USCMC fare?

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Gambrinus posted:

I just got to the hospital bit in Alien: Isolation. Hid in a cupboard for a bit then got run over by the alien and killed dead.

Almost literally poo poo myself earlier as well when what I thought was a dead android grabbed my leg. Arsehole.

Took me about two nights of playthrough, a couple of hours each night, to make it through medical. I totally avoided spoilers then, totally avoided looking up anything about the game.

I would get scared and cower inside of a locker or under a desk, listening to the thing's footsteps, listening for the telltale sounds that indicate it's about to drop down out of a vent. Basically just become paralyzed standing in a locker, thinking, "Welp. This is my life now."

This is exactly what you cannot do. As a piece of graffiti you see on the wall earlier indicates-- KEEP MOVING!

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Owlbear Camus posted:

SteegSon is in competition but all the canonical sources show they are sucking hind tit.

I love how the Isolation writers decided that they would use thw obvious inferiority of their synthetics as a selling distinction with the tagline "you always know a Working Joe."

Yeah, there is a lot of neat lore hidden in the emails on the terminals in AI.

Seegson saw themselves as a competitor to W-Y, but they were basically outgunned. I believe some of the stuff you can read on the terminals in game talks about how Sevastopol station was built in an area where there were soon going to be trade routes, and it was going to be big business as a place to stop and rest, refuel, repair, etc.

But W-Y used their corporate connections to ensure that the trade routes never actually developed out that way, kept the routes in places where W-Y had their stations, and Sevastopol eventually became a dead-end spot out in the middle of nowhere. Which leads to Seegson eventually deciding to decommission the station, write it off as a loss, and this begins a couple of months before the events of the game.

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Do we have high hopes for the new Fireteam Elite game, or nah?

I know very little about it, aside from having watched the trailer.

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Was this one ever posted in here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kaffFpSUS0

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Xenomrph posted:

The old Dark Horse/Bantam EU didn’t explain a whole lot, or when they did it ended up being irrelevant (or incorrect) bullshit meant to distract the characters, and the over-explanation was intentional and kind of the point.

What I’m saying is that Aliens: Labyrinth is a really good comic and everyone should read it.

I recently got most of the Alien Omnibus novelizations (not the comics):

Aliens Omnibus: Volume 1
- Earth Hive
- Nightmare Asylum
- The Female War

Aliens Omnibus: Volume 2
- Genocide
- Alien Harvest

Aliens Omnibus: Volume 3
- Rogue
- Labyrinth

Aliens Omnibus: Volume 4
- Music of the Spears
- Berserker

Aliens Omnibus: Volume 6
- Cauldron
- Steel Egg

Aliens Omnibus: Volume 7
- Criminal Enterprise
- No Exit

I'd already read all of the ones in Vol.1 a while back, so I started in with Genocide. Which had a couple of moments, but was not great. I think i will skip up to Labyrinth next.

I've read most of this stuff in comic book form in years past, I just wanted to check out the novelizations, because I had recently read the Cold Forge, and Out of the Shadows/Sea of Sorrow/River of Pain

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:

drat I forgot about this. Chet here looks like he wants to sell you a lightly used police interceptor. Only driven to church on Sundays.

That's his specialty!

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

WHY BONER NOW posted:

Apropos to the conversation, I've been listening to Aliens: Bug Hunt, an anthology style book with various stories set in the Alien universe. I don't know if it's considered canon or whatever, but there's some background info/answers to questions no one asked. It has a Star Wars EU vibe of "everything and everyone needs a backstory". I haven't experienced much Alien fiction outside the movies, so maybe that's standard. Anyway here's a list of some things in the book:

Bishop being activated for the first time, he is "special"/has emotions, also Hudson taught him the knife trick
Hicks has a tragic story concerning his wife who was another marine
There was some kind of love triangle between Hudson, Dietrick, and some other guy
Frost and Dietrick had an adventure involving some kind of space insect that attaches to a host and lays eggs in them, lol. Afterwards Dietrick says "if I ever have to fight those things again, I'm bringing a flamethrower! :haw:
Carter Burke backstory which I have to admit I did find interesting


Regarding how eggs function,
One of the stories is told from the perspective of the xenomorphs, and the eggs are not considered alive, but react to a few different stimuli, such as carbon dioxide being expelled by potential hosts. Furthermore, as far as food is concerned, a queen hocks a loogie into the mouth of a baby queen because she desperately needs nutrition to grow. It also says if alone, a queen will eat anything she can, but in a controlled hive, she will be given special nutrition to help her grow as fast as possible, reaching adult size in less than a week.


There's some outright wacky stuff in the book too like a dude who was experimented upon by a drug company, and when in danger he hulks out. As in, he grown huge, his skin turns red colored, he grows spikes and becomes super strong.

This stuff really isn't my cup of tea so I've been playing the audiobook in the background as I do other things. I'm sure I've missed a ton of details but whatever. I've discovered I prefer Alien content to be more "serious" rather than pulpy

I did enjoy the story about the origins of the Pulse rifle, and the one told from the POV of the facehugger/chestburster/young queen. But overall, I did not like this collection very much at all.

Predator: If it Bleeds is a collection along the same kinds of lines that was much better IMO

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Sunswipe posted:

I think the xenos having evolved somewhere is a far more terrifying thought. What sort of ecosystem would produce something like that? What sort of defenses have the other species on that planet developed? What if xenomorphs aren't the top of the food chain on that planet? These all seem to me to lead to far more interesting film possibilities than Ridley Scott's half-assed ruminations on gods.

It's EU stuff, but there is a lot of speculation about that very thing in a lot of the comics and novels. Like, imagine some type of beast that can easily take a xeno out, and caused them to evolve this acidic blood? That's a planet you do NOT want to go to.

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

MrMojok posted:

I recently got most of the Alien Omnibus novelizations (not the comics):

Aliens Omnibus: Volume 1
- Earth Hive
- Nightmare Asylum
- The Female War

Aliens Omnibus: Volume 2
- Genocide
- Alien Harvest

Aliens Omnibus: Volume 3
- Rogue
- Labyrinth

Aliens Omnibus: Volume 4
- Music of the Spears
- Berserker

Aliens Omnibus: Volume 6
- Cauldron
- Steel Egg

Aliens Omnibus: Volume 7
- Criminal Enterprise
- No Exit

I'd already read all of the ones in Vol.1 a while back, so I started in with Genocide. Which had a couple of moments, but was not great. I think i will skip up to Labyrinth next.

I've read most of this stuff in comic book form in years past, I just wanted to check out the novelizations, because I had recently read the Cold Forge, and Out of the Shadows/Sea of Sorrow/River of Pain

@xenomrph, you have any suggestions here? Have you read any of these?

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Xenomrph posted:

Of course, I've read all of them. :v:

It's been a long time since I read them so I'm not sure how well they hold up nowadays, but they're all pretty neat and bring different stuff to the table depending on what you're looking for.

Criminal Enterprise is pretty cool, and No Exit is great until the last like 1/5 of the book where the author says "Oh poo poo, I have a deadline to meet!" and just.... ends the book. It's not even a cliffhanger or anything, it's just a super-sloppy and unsatisfying ending.

I'm a huge fan of Labyrinth (the comic), but the novel is solid and will make do in a pinch.

Just finished Criminal Enterprise. I like that one a lot!

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Dirt5o8 posted:

So I just finished the short story book "Bug Hunt ". Skipped over a few chapters because the writing was pretty bad but overall it was a good book. The story from the alien's perspective was pretty goofy and fun.

It sounds like a one-off idea but is there anything else from the Alien's POV?

I quoted a couple of parts of the Alien Resurrection novel a couple of years back in the other thread. It is... not good.

MrMojok posted:

I'm sure my fellow Alien fans will recall the scene where Brad Dourif's character Dr. Gediman has his face plastered to the transparent window into one of the alien holding cells. An alien shoots its inner jaws at the plexiglass, right at his face. He gets pissed and douses it with liquid nitrogen, to teach it a lesson. Here, from the novelization, the thoughts of that drone:

alien drone posted:

The big warrior quivered in the small, strange place, his rage boundless.

That little, soft prey hurt me, burned me!

He whipped his tail in fury, as he watched the prey manipulate his devices, perform functions the warrior could only guess at. The warrior stared at the dangerous red pad in reach of the small being. He read the words “Fail-safe,” written beside it, and “Warning! Nitrogen jets!” He watched the small creature—the name “Gediman” printed on it—as it made words appear on a device it held.

Earlier, Wren, Gediman, and General Perez are looking at the queen, in her holding cell:

alien queen posted:

One of the humans was talking to the others. That’s all the humans seemed to do, stand and view her and talk with one another. She didn’t understand them, but then, she didn’t need to. She knew the colony had faced them before. There had been victories, there had been defeats. There would be victory again. She could wait. She was good at waiting, even if right now, she was bored to death.

The name on one of the observers’ garment read “Peréz.” The names on the other two read “Gediman,” and “Wren.” The sign over the mechanism that opened the door they had entered through read, YOU MUST SUMMON THE GUARD ON DUTY BEFORE THE DOOR WILL BE OPENED. It said the same thing in six other languages and she could read those languages. She didn’t question how she could do those things, any more than she questioned how she could breathe, or think, or eliminate. She just did them.

I think the idea here is that since the Queen came from Ripley, and has her DNA, it can read. But seems like this also means all queens who came from humans can read. And their offspring can too.

There are some other things that annoy me about this book. One of them is that the author like to use exclamation points to emphasize actions. It's just something that has always seemed amateurish to me.

quote:

In three quick moves he had the gun assembled and armed. Still moving with slow, easy motions, he aimed the gun at the ceiling…
And fired!

Perhaps I'm being too harsh on this novelization? I dunno.


MrMojok posted:


the alien drone Gediman punished posted:

He could see the color of its emotions, whether it was hot or cold, and whether it felt pain or fear. He could see it felt fear of the warrior—but not enough. Especially not now that it proved it could hurt the warrior. The “Gediman” radiated the color of pride, of accomplishment.

I will remember that color when I come for you.
And I will come for you.

The Gediman’s body would be building materials for the crèche. Once it was secured there, the warrior would decide if it would serve as food for the Queen, or if it was suitable to bear her young, or even if it would serve as food for the young. He could decide, even, if Gediman should bear young and also be its first meal.

And since you have hurt me and taken pleasure in it, I will decide to do with you whatever will keep you alive the longest.

The warrior would watch until the Gediman’s pride melted away, and with it every emotion it ever had, until there was nothing left but fear, an all-encompassing fear like the Gediman had never known.

The main characters (Ripley, and all the aliens) live with ghosts in their heads who quote lines from the previous films at them:

quote:

Ripley curled up tight within her shadow and stared into the darkness, trying not to let the young woman’s words touch her. She was tired, so very tired—But she didn’t dare sleep.

I don’t wanna sleep, a small, thin voice said in her head. I have scary dreams.

Who had said that? Ripley couldn’t remember, but the memory stabbed like a knife.

<snip>

Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility. Ripley could not recall who had said that to her or when, but she remembered it, nonetheless. It filled her with a crushing sadness.

<snip>

The warrior watched the changing emotions of the two humans who stood with their backs to him and his brothers. Another warrior stood at his side, while alone in the back of the cage sat the third—the smallest of the three. The second warrior paced nervously, but the first stood his ground, watching, waiting. He eyed the red button, now unnoticed by the humans.

The humans were upset, worried, nervous. Their colors were flaring, whatever was causing their concern still ongoing. There were strange sounds out there, voices, loud meaningless noise, flashing lights. It was interesting, but it wasn’t about to distract the warrior from his primary objective.

There had to be a way to turn the humans’ unexpected problem to their advantage.

A memory came to him. From the Mother.

I don’t know which species is worse… You don’t see them loving each other over…

It was not his memory, and he was not sure what all of it meant. But there was meaning there, something for him to learn. He considered…

Lastly, Vriess's first encounter with the aliens, while he's grabbing parts for the Betty:

quote:

Then, it was back, he could hear it—or could it be a different one? This one was more aggressive, not just scrabbling around the ceiling, but trying to get through it. Suddenly, it broke a comer of the tiling free and shoved its head through. And it was all head, a huge, elongated, nightmare head with no eyes, no ears, no hair, just skull and—

TEETH!
Gigantic, steel fangs, millions of them in a huge maw hissing right at him! Then its mouth opened wide, and something came out and—and—
THERE WERE MORE TEETH!

Vriess cracked finally and screamed hysterically. His finger squeezed the trigger. He fired, and fired, and fired.

The thing with teeth screamed back at him and exploded into a million fragments, all of them raining down on the berserk Vriess.

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

I am almost certain it’s the case that the first time anyone saw the sentry gun scene in Aliens, it was when the movie aired for the first time on CBS in about 1988.

I remember this airing, watched it with some friends and I was thrilled to see that scene, having not known it even existed. I can’t remember if the early scenes showing the colony were in there or not.

It was probably next on a director’s cut version issued on VHS in the early 90s.

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MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Chekhov’s powerloader

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