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FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

veni veni veni posted:

Now that I'm finishing up part 2, I have to admit it's pretty hard to give MJ the benefit of the doubt in any way, shape or form. I feel like I want to keep a neutral stance considering a lot of factors, but deep down it's hard to believe any of this poo poo isn't true.

That's where I'm at as well. There's no "proof" but there is so much smoke and this isn't a court of law. The dude is dead- yeah he doesn't get to "defend" himself but the man wanted other people's children in his bed and wanted access to his bedroom extremely controlled while they were there.

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FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Just finished The Highwaymen on Netflix and it was pretty good, if somewhat forgettable. One thing the film did that I found interesting was that Bonnie and Clyde were not really shown close up until the moment they are killed by the posse. The viewer sees them from afar at several points but when you finally see their faces, it really did humanize them in a way I wasn't expecting. A fine narrative device that elevated an otherwise passable film.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Was Geordi "horny"? I haven't seen TNG in a few years but I don't remember that being a part of his character.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Frog Act posted:

so I just finished rewatching game of thrones (man I forgot how thoroughly derailed the writing is by season 7) and it got me really jonesing for a like, actually realistic period piece? one that acknowledges things like geography, demographics, social diversity, etc or at least is an interestingly authentic representation of some historical period. I was looking at Gunpowder on HBO but it has pretty middling reviews?

ROME on HBO was one of the better shows for displaying how lovely slaves were generally treated in Roman society. It's also one of the best shows ever. The Last Kingdom is also pretty good in depicting the different social and religious conflicts that were going on in pre-medieval England.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

I liked it because I honestly couldn't predict what was going to happen at all and that in itself was pretty entertaining. Plus I'll watch anything with Oscar Isaac in it.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

garycoleisgod posted:

It's odd too because the characters are seemingly being punished for their actions, but the actions being punished aren't "Deciding to rob and murder a drug lord" so much as "Well, you took like 20% too much money". Like if they had still been murdering thieves, but had taken like $200m instead of $250m they would be fine, which is an odd message.

And for me the entire movie existed in a quantum state of being both an indictment of these tough dudes and a celebration of how bad-rear end they were and never collapsing into a single answer. This isn't a case of interesting ambiguity either, but just a movie that couldn't make up it's mind. I'm still baffled by the ending where they have nobly left the money behind and given their shares to Afflecks family, only for Hunman to give Isaac the coordinates of the money, so he can get it when the snow thaws. I have no idea what that is saying.

I found myself examining what my own decision calculus would be in that situation and I think I get what the writer was going for. Up until a certain point in the film, leaving money behind was seen by some of the characters as giving away something they possessed. It's definitely a mindset that I could see controlling someone's decision making process, especially in the moment. Sure the difference between 40 and 50 million each doesn't sound like a lot but if you're thinking of it the other way, i.e. "why the gently caress would anyone just leave 10 mill sitting here?!" it makes more sense.

I also found the ambiguity to be interesting. Even within the group there was a large continuum concerning whether or not what they were doing was right, and whether or not the plan should have been abandoned when people started getting killed. For me, that's what I took away from the end: Charlie's character didn't want the money. He didn't want that on his conscience, but he knew Oscar's character well enough to know it wouldn't bother him. That's the message of the film for me. These guys were brothers in arms but once that brotherhood was really tested outside the RoE, they weren't similar people at all.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Raskolnikov2089 posted:

Really weird seeing Marlo Stanfield as a cop in Bosch

Agreed - and he's a pretty straight edge cop obsessed with fashion no less. It's quite the role reversal.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Just gave Prospect a watch on Hulu and enjoyed it.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

I too was joyless but then it went mainstream.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Just finished The Red Sea Diving Resort and it was pretty good. Like a much less depressing Tears of the Sun but where the heroes don't have to kill anyone.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

veni veni veni posted:

The circular nature of season 1 wasn’t a bad thing. Season 1 was great. Season 2 just felt aimless.


Season 2 was pure misery porn. 3 needs to be significantly better to be worth a watch.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Joe Chill posted:

Yeah the movie was way more chud than the book.

Yes and no. That scene in particular was horrendous but the book has this stuff all throughout. As someone else mentioned, the main thrust of WWZ the book is that apartheid turned out to be actually good because it was awesome practice for the apocalypse. All the limp wristed liberals had to take their lumps and admit Israel and South Africa were right this whole time!

That it was written by Mel Brooks's son makes the whole thing even weirder.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Just finished ep 1 of season 2 of The Terror and I am digging it.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

The Spy on Netflix was really good. I had no idea it was based on a real guy until the end.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Terminal autist posted:

Really appreciate the recap on el camino reminding me how poo poo the last season of breaking bad was

Amazing username / post combo here.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

The King and The Irishman both just dropped on Netflix this weekend. Firing up the former tonight and the latter at some point this week. Pretty good week for NF I'm guessing.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

I really enjoyed The King from start to finish. One of the most gorgeous films I've seen in recent memory. The acting was outstanding (I'll watch Mendelson in anything, holy poo poo) and the score was brilliant. The violence was sparse but affecting.

9/10

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Marmaduke! posted:


The overall point is that battles with soldiers drowning in mud and crushed by each other has never really been a thing in battle scenes, but now it seems newer shows are copying the style of GoT's best battle. The other Netflix film with Robert the Bruce did a similar but not quite so jarring battle.

Your criticism would be valid for just about any other battle save Agincourt, which was/is singularly famous for creating an insanely compacted mass of fully armored, plate wearing soldiers in a virtually inescapable bog.

Also the battle of the bastards is one of the dumbest portrayals of mass combat ever put to screen and claiming a fairly legitimate, historical recounting of Agincourt ripped off that trash is pretty hilarious.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Past Tense Ragu posted:

You're just completely not understanding his point at all. He's saying the way the battle is presented is plagiarized from Game of Thrones. Like when Lord of the Rings came out and every battle scene after it for years looked just like its battle scenes. Not just in content but in form.

Yeah and his evidence is there was mud and people getting crushed in it. GoT had aerial camera views, one man running through a CG cavalry charge followed by a shaky cam, and multiple dramatic slow motion shots. The King had none of those and its centerpiece was a lengthy continuous take that followed the protagonist as he selected targets of opportunity in the chaos. It didn't "look like" GoT except that it was a muddy battle with medieval weaponry. It was not similarly directed at all.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Admittedly I've only seen The King once so I may be mistaken on those points. But even if I am, all those elements were present in the battle of gaugamela in Alexander which was filmed in 2004 so the idea that GoT invented any of those things is pretty dumb.

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FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Re: Mandalorian, is there some obvious reason he says "no droids" in the taxi scene?

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Jose Oquendo posted:

Dominic West as Detective McClunkey.

I know people talk about spit takes like they are a common thing but this is the first and only time I've had soda fire out my nose from laughing at something mid-drink. Nicely done.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

George H.W. oval office posted:

My fiancée wants to watch some US history documentaries since she’s forgotten everything from grade school. What are a good fee that range from beginnings to now?

Ken Burns's Civil War is pretty much the Gold Standard for US history documentaries. It doesn't hold the South's feet to the fire nearly enough for being a slave-based aggressor but it doesn't glorify the South either, so that's about as good as one can hope for from an American filmmaker.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

I'm 3 episodes into Messiah on Netflix and it's pretty good so far. The protagonist actor is insanely charismatic. I would follow that guy into the desert.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

The Outsider on HBO Go is really solid. Mendelsohn may be my favorite actor working today so I admit I'm biased, but it has a True Detective vibe going for it, in the best way.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Counterpart is really good.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

I think Ozark finally broke me. Not sure why, but when Laura linney broke into that family's/ their old home and hosed with their stuff before leaving, it was just so casually and pointlessly evil. Purposefully taking away those kids' sense of security purely for pleasure, I mean, I know they've done hosed up things but something about that just totally killed my interest in the show.

Wouldn't watch a show that follows the zany antics of a child molester, and they've almost reached that level.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Starks posted:

Personally I thought the ozark scene where they (s2 spoiler) murder a priest in front of his newborn child was a little worse than when Wendy taught a sheltered rich family a valuable lesson about the importance of changing your locks when you buy a new house.

You're right those kids deserved it.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

married but discreet posted:

I refuse! Tom Waits one was okay, last story had a good premise and ended prematurely - rest felt like dollar store Coen imitation.

100% agreed. Probably the biggest let down of any film I can recall. Well, that one and Hateful Eight.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Ozark is more cynical / nihilistic. It is not better than BB, especially since BB completely stuck the landing and we have no idea if Ozark will follow suit.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

I weep for the Skinny Pete spinoff that will never be.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

I would say that honestly, Ruth is the only character on Ozark that would negatively impact the show if she left / died. None of the other characters stand out in any real way. They are all pretty much complete shitbags with no redeeming qualities and very little to say as they try to ratfuck one another.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Inside Man is such a great flick.

All the bit characters really make it.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Knives Out was the most fun I've had at the theater in a long time.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

I too could not get in to Justified. It wasn't bad, I just didn't find it that good at all.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

veni veni veni posted:

Is that Rome HBO show still worth watching? I remember it having a lot of buzz back in the day but haven’t heard anyone bring it up in years. Watched Gladiator for the first time in years last weekend and wouldn’t mind some more of that.

ROME is top shelf viewing because it has one of the all time best protagonist bromance duos. Seriously, it doesn't get any better than Vorenus and Pullo. The ending feels so earned.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Yeah I mean the show isn't shy about the way slaves are treated. One of the very first scenes, young Octavian slaps the living poo poo out of a grown woman slave because she lightly bumps into him. It's so casual you might even not notice it.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Finally got around to watching Ali today. I've seen most of Mann's other notable stuff. Ali was, well, incredible. The way the film depicts the story as a front in the Civil Rights Movement of the late 60s was really poignant.

I don't care for will Smith but he gave a stellar performance, as did Jon voight and several other supporting cast. Jamie Foxx and Mario van peebles...I'm still on a bit of a high from watching it (on Prime).

If you haven't seen it I can't recommend it enough.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Hamilton is for people who want to have a bite sized sampling of history filtered through a musical as a substitute for putting in any effort to learn history.

That's also why it's egregious dodging of slavery is such an important component of its success.

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FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Best for me was also Grindhouse. Best crowd I've ever been a part of watching a film. Worst / most awkward was seeing Sphere and a guy a couple rows back had really pronounced Tourette's. It didn't bother me but I just felt so bad for the guy the whole time, and people were of course being passive aggressive and lovely about it.

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