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syzpid
Aug 9, 2014


NAG posted:

• The existing backyard ring has a perfect record of not harming anyone.

I imagine the only way Scarface would consider the ring injuring someone would be if it came to life and tried to swallow someone.

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NAG
Jul 13, 2009



DJExile posted:

Bless you for these write-ups, they've been great

Mugsbaloney posted:

Excellent writeups, really enjoyed these.

Thank you, it's been nice to get back into it.

staguar posted:

I think Backyard Bangers is another fight group out west that they're affiliated with.

Or it's a gonzo porn site starring Scarface, Mighty Mouse and the local talent.

It could also be an innocuous British sausage brand for backyard grilling, I suppose.

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

syzpid posted:

I imagine the only way Scarface would consider the ring injuring someone would be if it came to life and tried to swallow someone.

It’s West Virginia, that’s always a possibility.

NAG
Jul 13, 2009



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-cQdEoNVng

Streetbeefs is opening up a new Tidewater chapter called Undisputed, to be run by underboss Cornflake. Videos will air on the regular channel as usual. If you were hoping for a Scarface All Stars, you will be disappointed; it's just a local promotion for people that couldn't travel to the regular events.

There is also a California event coming late July/early August.

staguar
Aug 29, 2004


In the latest Scarface Being Sketchy news, the Virgina Athletic/Boxing Commission finally got ahold of him and told him that he has to carry insurance on his business.

But he still says that it's not a real fight promotion and he can't pay fighters.

former glory
Jul 11, 2011



I wonder what the premium is on a ramshackle backyard amateur fighting circuit.

NAG
Jul 13, 2009



staguar posted:

In the latest Scarface Being Sketchy news, the Virgina Athletic/Boxing Commission finally got ahold of him and told him that he has to carry insurance on his business.

But he still says that it's not a real fight promotion and he can't pay fighters.

It's the end of things

overmind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.



staguar posted:

In the latest Scarface Being Sketchy news, the Virgina Athletic/Boxing Commission finally got ahold of him and told him that he has to carry insurance on his business.

But he still says that it's not a real fight promotion and he can't pay fighters.

Time to go to international waters

chaleski
Apr 25, 2014



Street Beefs but on a riverboat

DJExile
Jun 27, 2007



would love me some riverbeefs

Hirez
Feb 3, 2003

Weber scored 49 points?



who needs fight island when you have fight boat

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008


DJExile posted:

would love me some fleetbeefs

staguar
Aug 29, 2004


They just re-uploaded one of the weirdest beef fights featuring a NINJA!

I really want to see Rising Phoenix vs Ninja Ron.

NAG
Jul 13, 2009



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzGn4I_V3j8

Beef bulletin
• Next event is going to be a Streetbeefs Mixers Extravaganza, where fighters are matched without regard for skill levels or weight classes
• Going forward, new fighters need more than three yard matches on their records to level up to Superstars and fight the more familiar competitors
• Streetbeefs is now defined as a "club", perhaps in an attempt to avoid problems with the athlete/boxing commission
• Streetbeefs expects loyalty from their fighters and will be operating on a poorly-defined "one strike and you're out" policy, somehow, weeding out disloyal fools that won't promote them on social media
• It's very hot in Virginia

staguar
Aug 29, 2004


NAG posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzGn4I_V3j8

Beef bulletin


• Streetbeefs is now defined as a "club", perhaps in an attempt to avoid problems with the athlete/boxing commission

Scarface doing everything he can to not go legit and pay the fighters or get insurance.

Qoey
Jun 2, 2014


staguar posted:

They just re-uploaded one of the weirdest beef fights featuring a NINJA!

I really want to see Rising Phoenix vs Ninja Ron.

The Mexican Banda tuba in the background really makes this special

Hirez
Feb 3, 2003

Weber scored 49 points?



I love the club part

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008


staguar posted:

They just re-uploaded one of the weirdest beef fights featuring a NINJA!

I really want to see Rising Phoenix vs Ninja Ron.

his opponent left him hanging after he quit lmao that's loving embarrassing.

chaleski
Apr 25, 2014



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GjugTk9ovcI

We'll certainly never get an official StreetBeefs game but I guess this is a real thing the UFC's doing

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

hail cgatan




That certainly looks like satans back yard. Needs some poorly painted plywood.

Firechicken
Sep 4, 2019

by Pragmatica


.delete please

Firechicken fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Jul 14, 2020

Firechicken
Sep 4, 2019

by Pragmatica


Hey everyone, im excited to tell you, my organization, Scrapyard Fights has merged with Streetbeefs. We are now Streetbeefs Scrapyard. We're located in WA State and will be throwing our first event sat July 25th. Or videos will be uploaded to the streetbeefs channel probably Sunday/Monday.

Firechicken fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Jul 22, 2020

Firechicken
Sep 4, 2019

by Pragmatica


Here it is, our first fight is up!!


True Grit VS Fury
https://youtu.be/p4W-M-BJD8A

ShineDog
May 21, 2007
It is inevitable!

So wait are you like a street beef partiallly owned subsidiary now? I thought this was your own thing.

staguar
Aug 29, 2004


Yeah, what happened to starting your own thing?

Are you going to be paying fighters or does Scarface get to keep any money generated from this also?

Firechicken
Sep 4, 2019

by Pragmatica


We are our own group, but now we are under the streetbeefs name. We can pretty much do what we want as long as it stays in the spirit of streetbeefs. I plan on putting on good quality fights roughly every 4-6 weeks.

Our next fights are on sat AUG 29th also looking to do a bjj tournament on a different date.

No, paying fighter is illegal.

I did a grappling match.

https://youtu.be/g-4P_Gp9LgE

Firechicken fucked around with this message at 08:04 on Aug 2, 2020

blue footed boobie
Sep 14, 2012


UEFA SUPREMACY

Firechicken posted:

We are our own group, but now we are under the streetbeefs name. We can pretty much do what we want as long as it stays in the spirit of streetbeefs. I plan on putting on good quality fights roughly every 4-6 weeks.

Our next fights are on sat AUG 29th also looking to do a bjj tournament on a different date.

No, paying fighter is illegal.

I did a grappling match.

https://youtu.be/g-4P_Gp9LgE

Please tell us about your experience negotiating this deal with Scarface.

staguar
Aug 29, 2004


No, paying fighters isn't illegal.

If you're going to run a fighting promotion, you should get licensed and use the revenue you generate to not exploit the fighters for your personal gain.

Here is where you get your promoter license.

Here is where you get your referees licensed.

Here is where your fighters get licensed.

Don't fall for Scarface being a sketchy gently caress and telling you that it's not legal to pay fighters. Just because he's a piece of poo poo who sheltered a pedophile and profits off of others getting brain damaged for free doesn't mean you have to do the same.

Gumball Gumption
Jan 7, 2012

GET BACK UP

If you're using Washington's mutual combat laws to get around poo poo, be careful because Washington doesn't have mutual combat laws. It just has it's laws written in a way so that there is no crime if two people fight, are not in a domestic relationship, and decide not to work with prosecution. So if someone fights and decides they got hurt a lot worse than they expected they could most likely press charges against at least the other fighter. If someone gets put into a coma or killed it would also be assumed that they would work with the protecution.

Also I'm not a lawyer so I could be wrong in places but this is my memory of how Washington's "mutual combat law" actually works.

SweetWillyRollbar
Jul 27, 2004

Would an advertising executive
Understand where the homeless live?
Would he know about the bubbles in his glass?
Would the bubbles in his glass
Understand what the man's golf cart is?
Do they know you can die frozen underneath an overpass?


If only I lived in the US so that I could risk brain damage AND a pandemic with nothing but a few blows to the face!

Gumball Gumption
Jan 7, 2012

GET BACK UP

Oh and that reminds me, in my earlier post I'm pretty sure "Domestic partnership" is just "have they lived together at any point?" So it two people are roommates and fight it falls under domestic fight laws. If they used to live together it might be enough. I guess my point is I hope you're not trying to use legal loopholes and if you are uh, make sure you have a shady but smart lawyer.

Gumball Gumption fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Aug 3, 2020

Firechicken
Sep 4, 2019

by Pragmatica


staguar posted:

No, paying fighters isn't illegal.

If you're going to run a fighting promotion, you should get licensed and use the revenue you generate to not exploit the fighters for your personal gain.

Here is where you get your promoter license.

Here is where you get your referees licensed.

Here is where your fighters get licensed.

Don't fall for Scarface being a sketchy gently caress and telling you that it's not legal to pay fighters. Just because he's a piece of poo poo who sheltered a pedophile and profits off of others getting brain damaged for free doesn't mean you have to do the same.

First off, that dude lied to everyone about his charges, including me, scarface wasn't sheltering anyone.

Second, it IS illegal to pay fighters. You understand that amateur fighters don't get paid, correct? In fact amateur fight promoters profit off of admission, which we don't charge. I haven't made anything off of this and have no clue how much I'm going to, i enjoy this and building a ring had given me abd my friends a place to get together and train.

I was fully prepared to not make anything for quite some time, but got ahold of scarface... now we're here.

Its pretty bad to call scarface names like that, he does a lot for the fighters that you don't even know. Im not going to go into it because i don't know what he's ok with me saying, but listen to me on this, he takes care of his friends and fighters. He's a good person. You seem salty though.

Firechicken
Sep 4, 2019

by Pragmatica


Gumball Gumption posted:

If you're using Washington's mutual combat laws to get around poo poo, be careful because Washington doesn't have mutual combat laws. It just has it's laws written in a way so that there is no crime if two people fight, are not in a domestic relationship, and decide not to work with prosecution. So if someone fights and decides they got hurt a lot worse than they expected they could most likely press charges against at least the other fighter. If someone gets put into a coma or killed it would also be assumed that they would work with the protecution.

Also I'm not a lawyer so I could be wrong in places but this is my memory of how Washington's "mutual combat law" actually works.

Thanks for the info, i am aware of this though. Ive talked to several law enforcement. I went to my local park the other day and there were 2 police officers watching people box, they said they didn't care because people were wearing gloves.

ShineDog
May 21, 2007
It is inevitable!

I like that apparently in the forms the referees medical sign-off can be handled by a naturopath

Gumball Gumption
Jan 7, 2012

GET BACK UP

Firechicken posted:

Thanks for the info, i am aware of this though. Ive talked to several law enforcement. I went to my local park the other day and there were 2 police officers watching people box, they said they didn't care because people were wearing gloves.

If your main legal advice is coming from law enforcement, IE cops, I'm going to again stress you want to talk to a lawyer. Cops don't know the law, they enforce it. They're often happy to lie about the law to get you to break it. There is nothing keeping them from deciding one day they're not cool with people boxing in the park. Good luck.

DJExile
Jun 27, 2007



Yeah, the "but this other cop said it was fine!" excuse isn't gonna fly if one of them wants to crack down on you. Talk to a criminal defense attorney and be certain of it.

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


Wait are you people seriously running fights in the middle of a pandemic

Are masks mandatory

JaySB
Nov 16, 2006





Firechicken posted:

Thanks for the info, i am aware of this though. Ive talked to several law enforcement. I went to my local park the other day and there were 2 police officers watching people box, they said they didn't care because people were wearing gloves.

You should definitely seek legal counsel from an attorney regarding this. There's a world of liability criminally and civilly that you can potentially be open to.

Regarding paying fighters, can't you legally give them a commission based on tickets sold? Like, they get their own promo code/flyer code/whatever and they get a % of the tickets that are purchased using said code.

DJExile
Jun 27, 2007



JaySB posted:

Regarding paying fighters, can't you legally give them a commission based on tickets sold? Like, they get their own promo code/flyer code/whatever and they get a % of the tickets that are purchased using said code.

He can, but if he does this then he has to run payroll or create 1099s.

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staguar
Aug 29, 2004


Scarface gets back into the ring and throws the most hilarious haymakers while not looking where he's punching.

Gotta love the "calls himself Cupcake...I gave him that name" in the interview afterwards.

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