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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:well that sounds like a challenge to me It would be pretty hard to lose a modern downtown to a wildfire unless the entire fire department was in a coma but all those sprawl-rear end suburbs filled with stick-built, wood-framed mcmansions with vinyl siding are loving toast on a 100 year timescale. They cover too large an area to defend and the nature of the construction is too flammable to harden against fire storms.
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Trabisnikof posted:i think we'll see both a combination of seawalls for the wealthy and just letting things flood. plus in general the people in the low lying flood prone areas are poor and the rich people live on the hill when possible. When it comes to seawalls and such, I can't but help think of Bangladesh with its dense population among hundreds of miles of coastline. We would need an army of Dr Strange wizards to hold back all of what's coming for those people in the next couple decades, and that's ignoring any doomsday glaciers breaking off. And Bangladesh is not alone there in the imminently hosed category. This world is not even close to being prepared for climate refugees nor all of the destroyed ecology and annihilated infrastructure. Rich countries are going to find it harder to keep current global commerce together when their exploited regions start going bust due to rapid climate change over the next 2 decades. So we're already baked in for a really bad time no matter what we do, minus magic. So yeah, I also fully expect the rich to continue saving themselves. Too bad it won't be as cool as those ships in that 2012 movie lol.
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Lost Time posted:When it comes to seawalls and such, I can't but help think of Bangladesh with its dense population among hundreds of miles of coastline. We would need an army of Dr Strange wizards to hold back all of what's coming for those people in the next couple decades, and that's ignoring any doomsday glaciers breaking off. And Bangladesh is not alone there in the imminently hosed category. i can’t remember where i saw it, but someone was talking about how innovative and how much cost was saved because some levees in Bangladesh have trees planted on top so that when the levee gets over topped people can climb into the tree and ??? versus building a levee as tall as the tree+levee lol
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Accretionist posted:HEDGEROWS.FLV: poo poo this was surprisingly cool, that looks way better than a lot of fence types and probably the cheapest by a lot.
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reminder: whitey did climate change
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# ? Apr 10, 2021 19:59 |
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Lost Time posted:This world is not even close to being prepared for climate refugees nor all of the destroyed ecology and annihilated infrastructure. no i think they've invented auto-turrets already, though biden seems to be going the cheap route of landmines everywhere instead at least that's how the western world is preparing for the climate refugees
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Shima Honnou posted:though biden seems to be going the cheap route of landmines everywhere instead i literally do not know if this is a joke or not at this point
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Shima Honnou posted:no i think they've invented auto-turrets already, though biden seems to be going the cheap route of landmines everywhere instead Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:i literally do not know if this is a joke or not at this point lol yeah, I don't put anything past this guy https://twitter.com/TamanishaJohn/status/1337797683130589184
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Shima Honnou posted:no i think they've invented auto-turrets already, though biden seems to be going the cheap route of landmines everywhere instead Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:i literally do not know if this is a joke or not at this point It's pretty easy to see if you read between the policy lines. Hubbert has issued a correction as of 20:47 on Apr 10, 2021 |
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idiots believing fusion snake oil businesses navy rehabilitating cold fusion ghost forests arctic thunderstorms becoming common
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# ? Apr 10, 2021 20:49 |
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Cold fusion is more probable than it was before, I think, especially since we got our hands on room temperature superconductors, something that was considered to be complete science fiction until like six months ago
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Grapplejack posted:Cold fusion is more probable than it was before, I think, especially since we got our hands on room temperature superconductors, something that was considered to be complete science fiction until like six months ago Does cold fusion bypass any of the current materials engineering problems that regular fusion has?
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Lost Time posted:lol yeah, I don't put anything past this guy when MY president says the quiet parts loud, he does it with a n95 mask on, tyvm. we believe in SCIENCE here.
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Grapplejack posted:Cold fusion is more probable than it was before, I think, especially since we got our hands on room temperature superconductors, something that was considered to be complete science fiction until like six months ago well, room temperature and insanely high pressure superconductors since IIRC the material only became superconductive at high temps under hundreds of gigapascals of pressure
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Gods_Butthole posted:Does cold fusion bypass any of the current materials engineering problems that regular fusion has? does cold fusion bypass the fossil fuel corporations that will kill it the second it starts looking viable
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Shima Honnou posted:does cold fusion bypass the fossil fuel corporations that will kill it the second it starts looking viable The Joe Biden administration wouldn't allow that, they loving love science. Or do they love loving science?
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Shima Honnou posted:does cold fusion bypass the fossil fuel corporations that will kill it the second it starts looking viable maybe once the doomsday glaciers start dropping into the sea we'll stop listening to them...............................................
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# ? Apr 10, 2021 21:48 |
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the navy doesnt think its actually fusion they think its some weird weak nuclear force or something and they want to weaponize it asap under the name low energy nuclear reactions (lenr) as a power source for devices in the field
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Real hurthling! posted:the navy doesnt think its actually fusion they think its some weird weak nuclear force or something and they want to weaponize it asap under the name low energy nuclear reactions (lenr) as a power source for devices in the field https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/its-not-cold-fusion-but-its-something/ quote:In 1997, theorist Lewis Larsen looked at some of this data and noticed a similarity to elemental abundances he had learned about while a student in Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar's astrophysics class at the University of Chicago. Larsen suspected that a neutronization process was occurring in low-energy nuclear reactions (LENR). Physicist Allan Widom joined Larsen's team in 2004, and in 2006 they published a theory in the European Physical Journal C - Particles and Fields. It sounds pretty cool I guess, not a particle physicist though so don't really get most of the implications here.
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# ? Apr 10, 2021 22:20 |
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We could technically do cold fusion but it takes a shitload of energy to make the muons necessary for it.
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Completely anecdotal but it was 39C here yesterday when the mean maximum temperature for this part of Texas in April is 37C. It loving suuuuucked Edit: 2017 saw our record high at 44C and 2021 our record low at -12C, loving Texas weather jisforjosh has issued a correction as of 23:00 on Apr 10, 2021 |
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brakeless posted:well, room temperature and insanely high pressure superconductors since IIRC the material only became superconductive at high temps under hundreds of gigapascals of pressure i watched a video of the scientist who developed that and he seems really nice, and quite honest that they’ve basically swapped one insanely extreme requirement for another , but i guess it’s a start?
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Jel Shaker posted:i watched a video of the scientist who developed that and he seems really nice, and quite honest that they’ve basically swapped one insanely extreme requirement for another , but i guess it’s a start? yep it's like looking at the problem from another angle. so maybe a combined strategy could learn from it.
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Wakko posted:wildfire can't burn a metropolis to the ground but suburbs are already getting torched and changing out your indoor HEPA filters is now a seasonal chore on the west coast. not sure what you're expecting here. the southwest is just going to get increasingly unpleasant to live in year over year. basically how much protection coastal areas have from wildfires, due to mountains or other geography (that is not forests) in between.
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California must clearcut the remaining forests and salt the earth with latest generation herbicides, so nothing will ever grow again and nothing will ever burn again. Death to the coastal oak. Death to the redwood. Death to the sequoia. DEATH! DEATH! DEATH!
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Bathtub Cheese posted:reminder: whitey did climate change
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my hope is that wildfires render california uninhabitable before sea level rise renders florida uninhabitable, but i appreciate that's unlikely
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redleader posted:my hope is that wildfires render california uninhabitable before sea level rise renders florida uninhabitable, but i appreciate that's unlikely
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This is a fascinating article on animal navigation: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/04/05/why-animals-dont-get-lost I mention it here because it finishes on a note of "...and we're loving it up" (which seems to be the closing thoughts of literally any article about nature these days): quote:Problems like these aren’t caused by higher temperatures, per se. The Goulds point out that, throughout the two-hundred-million-year evolutionary history of birds and the six-hundred-million-year evolutionary history of vertebrates, “average global temperatures have ranged from below freezing to above one hundred degrees Fahrenheit.” During that time, the ocean has been both hundreds of feet higher and hundreds of feet lower than it is today. Not every species survived those fluctuations, but most animals can adapt to even drastic environmental change, if it happens gradually. Ornithologists suspect that those bar-headed geese fly over Mt. Everest because they have been doing so since before it existed. When it began rising up from the land, some sixty million years ago, they simply moved upward with it.
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perepelki posted:a fox couldn't find its way out of an escape room faster than a goon, but i know which one would more gracefully handle two weeks without electricity
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:This is a fascinating article on animal navigation: This was a good read thanks for linking.
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listened to an interview with Adam Curtis this morning that was okay; disappointed to hear him say ‘for twenty years the climate change people said we just needed to hold steady, keep things stable, but now with this green new deal, and with technology, we can actually think about making a difference’ he’s always kinda felt like a technocrat who thinks the wrong technocrats are running the show (I dunno, not super versed in him), but that little quip almost made me tune out
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meanwhile thanks for the radio eco shock recommendation, rime
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:listened to an interview with Adam Curtis this morning that was okay; disappointed to hear him say ‘for twenty years the climate change people said we just needed to hold steady, keep things stable, but now with this green new deal, and with technology, we can actually think about making a difference’ he isnt very leftist hes just a guy with a fun style and access to the bbc footage archive
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afaict Curtis is an iconoclast and has no real coherent political ideology other than a good eye for things that are stupid and don't work, which these days is more than enough for an entire documentarian career
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Real hurthling! posted:he isnt very leftist hes just a guy with a fun style and access to the bbc footage archive yeah this he does occasionally challenge the conventional narrative and go a bit further (US middle east policy esp. wrt Syria, Gaddafi, how psycho the control freaks in charge are) but whenever he talks about the USSR or China you can feel free to tune him out entirely he's like "these people tried to make their societies better, but they failed" but he doesn't really spell out why it failed besides some handwaving about power and such. it's imperium, stupid
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how hard would it be for someone/a group to go in and sabotage the glacier and kickstart all of this. like using explosives to sever the ice tongue or whatever. in uh minecraft
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Tekne posted:California must clearcut the remaining forests and salt the earth with latest generation herbicides, so nothing will ever grow again and nothing will ever burn again. Death to the coastal oak. Death to the redwood. Death to the sequoia. DEATH! DEATH! DEATH! I like those trees though
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Pobrecito posted:how hard would it be for someone/a group to go in and sabotage the glacier and kickstart all of this. like using explosives to sever the ice tongue or whatever. in uh minecraft I just want this poo poo to be over with already. Just kick the whole thing off and accelerate everything into the ground. It's the anticipation that's killing me. I also wanna be able to say "I told you so, dad! " while he's still alive.
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Pobrecito posted:how hard would it be for someone/a group to go in and sabotage the glacier and kickstart all of this. like using explosives to sever the ice tongue or whatever. in uh minecraft All of that is noise compared to the amount of energy being delivered to Thwaites from below by warm water currents
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