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Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo
They overpaid for the hammer imo.

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Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Truga posted:

any onion site is still technically private, as long as you understand that at this point most of the tor endpoints are NSA/CIA

Does this mean they know all about my darkweb weed purchases but do nothing about it because I'm just a nobody?

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

Trainee PornStar posted:

Does this mean they know all about my darkweb weed purchases but do nothing about it because I'm just a nobody?

it means they know when you accessed something in the onion network, they just can't tell what because it's end to end encrypted, unless they also run your weed shop

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

they can tell because they’ve broken or created all the encryption algorithms you’re allowed to use and because they ordered all American and European companies to back door all their hardware and software layers for the NSA

https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/1433451378391883782?s=20

there is epic QQ now from the MIC about how draconian and unsportsmanlike China is being by exploiting American-made holes.

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

Right, for the EROEI for energy entering the economy (EROEIext) as opposed to the EROEI that's typically investigated at the power source itself (EROEIst). For EROEIst they found that wind is in line with the literature.

What's interesting here is their EROEIext figure for fossil fuels is ~4:1, with about 75% of the production being usable. According to their plot of discretionary energy sources onshore wind only slightly worse with 65-70% being usable, which is frankly phenomenal. Photovoltaics are worse by quite a bit at just over 40%, but still offer enough discretionary energy to make them worth it.

Rime posted:

Full supply chain considerations result in an EROEI of 3:1, mega big-time LOL at the suggestion that wind has the same EROEI of Oil.

The paper Cold on a Cob posted makes the comparison between wind and fossil fuels pretty decent given that fossil fuels only have EROEIext of 4:1.

Blockade
Oct 22, 2008

Trainee PornStar posted:

Does this mean they know all about my darkweb weed purchases but do nothing about it because I'm just a nobody?

Pretty much, they're not going to blow their load on nobody drug doers and scare people off

kater
Nov 16, 2010

Hexigrammus posted:


In Grade 12 I learned the name of the dangly bit that hangs down from the roof of an earthworm's gut. Despite later taking a 3rd year invertebrate zoology course this piece of knowledge has been utterly and completely useless in my life. A lietmotif for the rest of my highschool experience, unfortunately.

well??

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

Climate impact of a transatlantic flight could cost global economy $3,000

A return flight from the UK to New York could cost the global economy more than $3,000 (Ł2,170) in the long run, owing to the effects of the climate crisis, according to a report.

Researchers examined the economic cost of the climate crisis and found it would cut about 37% from global GDP this century, more than twice the drop experienced in the Great Depression.

A British Airways Boeing 747 aircraft makes a flypast over London Heathrow airport
Airlines need to do more than plant trees to hit net zero, MPs told

For every tonne of carbon dioxide emitted, the global economy would be $3,000 worse off by the end of the century, they estimated.

IAMKOREA
Apr 21, 2007

Jel Shaker posted:

Climate impact of a transatlantic flight could cost global economy $3,000

A return flight from the UK to New York could cost the global economy more than $3,000 (Ł2,170) in the long run, owing to the effects of the climate crisis, according to a report.

Researchers examined the economic cost of the climate crisis and found it would cut about 37% from global GDP this century, more than twice the drop experienced in the Great Depression.

A British Airways Boeing 747 aircraft makes a flypast over London Heathrow airport
Airlines need to do more than plant trees to hit net zero, MPs told

For every tonne of carbon dioxide emitted, the global economy would be $3,000 worse off by the end of the century, they estimated.

Oh, the global economy would be $3000 dollars worst off? I better cancel my flight, that sounds awful!!!

Complications
Jun 19, 2014

Sure, the global economy will be $3000 poorer per flight, but have you considered that the finest neoliberal economists assure us that the global economy will also be orders of magnitude larger than it is today and much better able to handle such costs?

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Blockade posted:

Pretty much, they're not going to blow their load on nobody drug doers and scare people off

I'd always assumed that to be the case, I'm glad it's not just me being paranoid.

Man Musk
Jan 13, 2010

Complications posted:

siberia's even more on fire than we are

welp! Lopez Island, WA ?

IAMKOREA
Apr 21, 2007
someone post the paper about how the best economists in the world don't think climate change will impact any company whose employees have climate controlled work spaces

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Complications posted:

Sure, the global economy will be $3000 poorer per flight, but have you considered that the finest neoliberal economists assure us that the global economy will also be orders of magnitude larger than it is today and much better able to handle such costs?

read this as “the finest neoliberal economists will be orders of magnitude larger than they are today” and had to change my trousers

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Jel Shaker posted:

Climate impact of a transatlantic flight could cost global economy $3,000

A return flight from the UK to New York could cost the global economy more than $3,000 (Ł2,170) in the long run, owing to the effects of the climate crisis, according to a report.

Researchers examined the economic cost of the climate crisis and found it would cut about 37% from global GDP this century, more than twice the drop experienced in the Great Depression.

A British Airways Boeing 747 aircraft makes a flypast over London Heathrow airport
Airlines need to do more than plant trees to hit net zero, MPs told

For every tonne of carbon dioxide emitted, the global economy would be $3,000 worse off by the end of the century, they estimated.

What's a round trip New York - London flight in economy pricing out to these days? A quarter of what it's stealing from the world? Less?

Hexigrammus
May 22, 2006

Cheech Wizard stories are clean, wholesome, reflective truths that go great with the marijuana munchies and a blow job.

Spreading the wealth: typhlosole.

Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

I'm helping!



Jel Shaker posted:

Climate impact of a transatlantic flight could cost global economy $3,000

A return flight from the UK to New York could cost the global economy more than $3,000 (Ł2,170) in the long run, owing to the effects of the climate crisis, according to a report.

Researchers examined the economic cost of the climate crisis and found it would cut about 37% from global GDP this century, more than twice the drop experienced in the Great Depression.

A British Airways Boeing 747 aircraft makes a flypast over London Heathrow airport
Airlines need to do more than plant trees to hit net zero, MPs told

For every tonne of carbon dioxide emitted, the global economy would be $3,000 worse off by the end of the century, they estimated.

By these numbers, every ten litres of gasoline does $69 of damage to the world economy. A quarter-pound burger does $10 of damage.

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Chamale posted:

$69 of damage to the world economy

:nice:

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Jel Shaker posted:

Climate impact of a transatlantic flight could cost global economy $3,000

A return flight from the UK to New York could cost the global economy more than $3,000 (Ł2,170) in the long run, owing to the effects of the climate crisis, according to a report.

Researchers examined the economic cost of the climate crisis and found it would cut about 37% from global GDP this century, more than twice the drop experienced in the Great Depression.

A British Airways Boeing 747 aircraft makes a flypast over London Heathrow airport
Airlines need to do more than plant trees to hit net zero, MPs told

For every tonne of carbon dioxide emitted, the global economy would be $3,000 worse off by the end of the century, they estimated.

quote:

The research was conducted by experts from Cambridge University, University College London and Imperial College London, as well as international partners from Switzerland, Germany, the US and Austria.

Most estimates had assumed fires, floods, droughts and other impacts of the climate crisis did not affect economic growth, the authors said, but there was “mounting evidence to the contrary”.
lol. lmao

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

mawarannahr posted:

read this as “the finest neoliberal economists will be orders of magnitude larger than they are today” and had to change my trousers
are liberal economists capable of analyzing socio-economic relations based on physical inputs and outputs like labor and raw metals or is it all Number

IAMKOREA
Apr 21, 2007

its literally just "how much more expensive is air conditioning at ambient + 2 C? we are very smart!"

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

there is another much cited report out there addressing the economic effects of climate change where the author discounted all the outcomes of climate change as occurring "outside" and so were irrelevant to "inside" economic activities

bag em and tag em
Nov 4, 2008

Admiral Ray posted:

Oh drat, alright. Hmm, I've gotta go on a hunt for the most corrosive energy drinks then.

Wasn't there a suit against Mountain Dew where someone claimed they found a mouse in their can and MD's defense was "nah, a mouse would have completely dissolved by the time you bought it so you're lying"?

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

bedpan posted:

there is another much cited report out there addressing the economic effects of climate change where the author discounted all the outcomes of climate change as occurring "outside" and so were irrelevant to "inside" economic activities

William Nordhaus. He also regarded the average increase in temperature like a diurnal temperature change. They gave him that fake Nobel for it.

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

SplitSoul posted:

William Nordhaus. He also regarded the average increase in temperature like a diurnal temperature change. They gave him that fake Nobel for it.

how there isn’t an ig nobel for just dumb economists, rather than fun and quirky studies, i have no idea

Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

I'm helping!



bedpan posted:

there is another much cited report out there addressing the economic effects of climate change where the author discounted all the outcomes of climate change as occurring "outside" and so were irrelevant to "inside" economic activities

80% reduction in agricultural output was projected to have no impact on other economic sectors

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

bag em and tag em posted:

Wasn't there a suit against Mountain Dew where someone claimed they found a mouse in their can and MD's defense was "nah, a mouse would have completely dissolved by the time you bought it so you're lying"?

Lmao, I sure hope so!

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit

College Slice

Truga posted:

it means they know when you accessed something in the onion network, they just can't tell what because it's end to end encrypted, unless they also run your weed shop

they run everything on onion guaranteed its all ops

Complications
Jun 19, 2014

Chamale posted:

80% reduction in agricultural output was projected to have no impact on other economic sectors

That report was the most hilarious thing. Right at the start it assumed that 80% of the economy wasn't vulnerable to climate change, then after a bunch of blah blah blah justifying that and making up numbers the conclusion spat out that they expected something like a 16% total reduction of economic output which wasn't bad due to the assumed intervening number growth and just completely ignored the obvious hole in losing 16/20 of things like agriculture and fishing.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Jel Shaker posted:

how there isn’t an ig nobel for just dumb economists, rather than fun and quirky studies, i have no idea

Pretty sure you're just describing the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences.

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Truga posted:

it means they know when you accessed something in the onion network, they just can't tell what because it's end to end encrypted, unless they also run your weed shop

If the service happens to control the entry and exit node, it would absolutely know what server you're accessing.

Hubbert
Mar 25, 2007

At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
now that everyone appears to be sufficiently broke-brained enough to have a conversation about our future energy reality without shrieking and pissing themselves about ecofascist malthusianism, i will now ask the most important question of all:

did everyone have a good labor day weekend?

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Hubbert posted:

now that everyone appears to be sufficiently broke-brained enough to have a conversation about our future energy reality without shrieking and pissing themselves about ecofascist malthusianism, i will now ask the most important question of all:

did everyone have a good labor day weekend?

This is a very Malthusian question, IMO

ughhhh
Oct 17, 2012

Hubbert posted:

now that everyone appears to be sufficiently broke-brained enough to have a conversation about our future energy reality without shrieking and pissing themselves about ecofascist malthusianism, i will now ask the most important question of all:

did everyone have a good labor day weekend?

I'm mad at everyone patting themselves on the back over how great their mutual aid is going which couldn't function/need without the waste and opulence of the system..

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.

comedyblissoption posted:

are liberal economists capable of analyzing socio-economic relations based on physical inputs and outputs like labor and raw metals or is it all Number

Any real economist knows that Financial Services are the only part of the economy that matters.

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.
lol what's a wheat???? you mean that thing I shorted twelve thousand tons of yesterday, bro, those are just numbers on a screen. lol look at this bitch acting like """"wheat"""" is a real thing

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

how much for one oat? thinking of getting into commodity trading.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

bag em and tag em posted:

Wasn't there a suit against Mountain Dew where someone claimed they found a mouse in their can and MD's defense was "nah, a mouse would have completely dissolved by the time you bought it so you're lying"?

there have been a few of these. the guy that taught my electron microscopy course was used as an expert witness fairly often, and he told us about one such case where a woman said she stopped to get a soda on the way home from work. the machine gave her diet instead of regular coke/pepsi. she drank some and thought it tasted funny but “chalked it up” to it being diet instead of regular, as she rarely drank diet. she drank some more and couldn’t get past the flavour so she dumped it out and quelle horreur there was a dead mouse inside.

as it turns out he found nearly invisible scratchings on the edge of the drinking hole and corresponding shavings in the mouse’s stomach contents, which meant the woman had stuffed the poor creature into the soda can while it was still alive

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum

Hubbert posted:

now that everyone appears to be sufficiently broke-brained enough to have a conversation about our future energy reality without shrieking and pissing themselves about ecofascist malthusianism, i will now ask the most important question of all:

did everyone have a good labor day weekend?

I spent it alternately grinding fiberglass and arguing about that paper with Liberals who claim it is an imperialist attempt to perpetuate western civilization at the expense of the developing world - because of the line about a one child policy.

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Mameluke
Aug 2, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

that's crazy especially when you consider that the economy is 92% indoors and thus unaffected by climate change!! wow flights must be REALLY bad

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