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God Hole posted:So on Friday I got together with a bunch of kids and youth workers in my tiny Ukrainian village and we did some superficial cleanup on a local pond (pulled bottles and trash out of it) and planted 15 trees and 10 bushes. Yeah, it’s a drop in the ocean, but we’ve been riding high an ecological mindfulness wave recently and hopefully this will have been an empowering experience for the kids and get them a little more invested in the ecological health of their community. this is a good post
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After the Dragonflies WS Merwin Dragonflies were as common as sunlight hovering in their own days backward forward and sideways as though they were memory now there are grown-ups hurrying who never saw one and do not know what they are not seeing the veins in a dragonfly’s wings were made of light the veins in the leaves knew them and the flowing rivers the dragonflies came out of the color of water knowing their own way when we appeared in their eyes we were strangers they took their light with them when they went there will be no one to remember us
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Apr 15, 2019 19:28
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Loling at remembering my avatar. Haven't posted for years, must have pissed someone in the bad forum off by saying something controversial like maybe we shouldn't dump pesticides that kill bees all over the crops.
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kraken! posted:
Funny thing about MEA and solvent based carbon capture... Solvent based capture is the only industrially proven technology, and MEA is the reference solvent because it actually works. It's been around for 100 years. There are newer generation solvents that improve on MEA marginally, but in any case a carbon capture unit at a power plant is going to reduce power output by 30 percent or so from what I've heard. Why? Look up the heat of reaction between MEA and CO2 - it's huge. Absorbing the CO2 is easy. Getting it out of the solvent so you can store it and recirculate the solvent? That takes an incredible amount of energy. CCS is technically possible right now. We know how to do everything. It is just a question of policy. Which means, obviously, we are hosed.
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we aren't even close to assessing those questions at my level, I'm having a hard enough time telling my classmates that any CCU/CCS process operated by companies based on incentives is just a handout to the rich for what will inevitably the worst solution. The main waste generated by the process I'm looking at is monoethanolamine, which is pretty non-toxic and a pretty standard way of concentrating CO2. Making gigatons of PET is not a good way to sequester carbon, just the result of a bunch of decisions being made for me.
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Truga posted:fat chance, op When I saw this the other day I felt like someone punched me in the stomach. Still do.
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Jun 26, 2019 14:34
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To clarify, it feels worst than the time a bully sucker punched me in 7th grade and I bawled my eyes out.
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Jun 26, 2019 14:43
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Can't bawl now, of course, even though the planet is dying. I've got important grown up work to do!
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Jun 26, 2019 14:51
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Lol at a loving grad student who thinks he has all the answers. Oh a grad student on a full ride, I mean (as if there's any other kind in stem). Just loving insufferable. I don't even know what this lovely argument is about I just want my daily doom mainline. Jfc
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Aug 23, 2019 15:17
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Nocturtle posted:I understand the need to aggressively advocate for more nuclear power. It's just that we got into this mess through a disregard for science and inability to make hard and unpopular choices, so now we need to solve it through a disregard for science and inability to make hard unpopular choices. What about the Halliburton scientists who figured out fracking? I think their science was pretty highly regarded.
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Aug 23, 2019 19:32
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sandwiches_and_ham posted:met some new friends tonight who strongly recommended doing something starting with "c" and ending with "ne". i'm almost 40 and have never touched anything stronger than a joint my whole life but climate extinction makes me wonder if perhaps i should just say gently caress it and enjoy poo poo that i never would have touched otherwise. if we're doomed ASAP, might as well go out with some pleasure Don't mix it with alcohol it's bad for your heart. Other than that go for it. Why not.
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Aug 31, 2019 17:21
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Strikes me as kind of silly to make a big deal about food transport being a problem for veganism as if meat eaters don't also eat vegetables transported from faraway places.
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Sep 3, 2019 06:15
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I have nothing to back this up but there's just no way people used to eat as much meat in the past before refrigerators and supermarkets. I find the idea that current meat consumption rates are somehow natural except in like, Eskimo communities, completely absurd. People used to eat way less meat and they ought to again. loving lol at crying over a vegan eating quinoa as if people don't serve quinoa as a side to steaks from cows fattened on soy grown in what used to be the Amazon rainforest.
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Sep 3, 2019 17:31
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Kurnugia posted:no one is crying about vegans eating quinoas, whatever that is, the point was that you personally not eating meat doesn't stop brazilian fascists from burning the amazon for pasture land I eat meat (not very much) but anyway yes they are. Ron Paul atreides argument is literally that quinoa supply chain is bad, scroll up.
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Sep 3, 2019 17:37
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Kurnugia posted:uhh... it does tho? Except Ron Paul's quinoa bullshit is a total red herring because there is no vegan oath that requires you to eat quinoa. And lol at pretending you don't know what quinoa is as if they don't sell it at DM you goon.
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Sep 3, 2019 17:59
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Kurnugia posted:whats dm German drug store there are 3 within walking distance from my place, I guess they didn't get to Finland yet. But I can literally also buy quinoa at like most corner stores here as well. Are you guys seriously still eating nothing but pine bark and pickled herring?
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Sep 3, 2019 18:06
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How do you get momentum to pass those laws if no one is even willing to bother doing it on a personal basis?
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Sep 3, 2019 18:08
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Well duh there's no solution, we're going to burn every drop of oil we can until the oceans are completely dead. Everyone knows it. But whining about how people who take individual action are dumb is the most goony "well actshully" bullshit I can imagine.
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Sep 3, 2019 18:13
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I literally had to scroll up and make sure I wasn't in D&D. Can you idiots shut up? By the way Kurnugia, vitamín d supplementation might help your cum piss problem.
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Sep 3, 2019 18:36
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Kurnugia posted:heres my dinner btw Haha no way that rules
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Sep 3, 2019 18:48
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It's me, the guy unwilling to stop eating burgers every day for lunch and dinner until there's a drat collective to join!
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Sep 3, 2019 19:02
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Like if you really believe that meaningful collective action against climate change is possible (its not, we're hosed then why not start implementing the necessary changes in your life right now? They're mostly better for you anyways.
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Sep 3, 2019 19:03
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Oxxidation posted:why do people always state these hypotheticals as if we want to live Never underestimate the human will to survive even in the most horryfing conditions imaginable. 
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Sep 3, 2019 19:12
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baw posted:like you said that switching from red meat means everyone will eat avocados or quinoa and all the alternatives are equally bad. which is false by just about any way you want to quantify "bad" Nope lentils don't exist it's either beef or quinoa harvested by peruvian children who now have to subsist off of crickets because they can no longer afford quinoa.
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Sep 3, 2019 19:55
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V. Illych L. posted:the difference is so tiny that it might as well have. a law banning industrial production of beef, on the other hand, might have an impact. however, it's harder to argue for such a law if your position is "i have already done this and so should you and, indeed, everyone" rather than "we should stop eating beef together" So like no one can stop eating meat until everyone agrees to di it together? Wow great idea I bet baw sure feels like a bozo now.
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Sep 3, 2019 20:01
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It's been said before but it's crazy to think we're waiting for some insane climate change related catastrophe. I'm pretty sure climate change feels real as gently caress if you're drinking from a toilet in a concentration camp after having your baby ripped from your arms by fascists after migrating because corn, which your ancestors literally created, doesn't grow anymore in your home country.
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Blockade posted:I was watching Chernobyl with some of my born rich lib friends, one of them said "can you believe the ugly tiny concrete apartments communists would make the poor live in?". I've said this before in cspam but it was mind blowing for me to go into an apartment in an old communist block for the first time. The outside was decrepit but inside there was as much warmth and life as any other home I'd ever been to. Outside the garden was carefully tended by grandmas and old men made sauerkraut and butchered pigs in the garages. There was a much stronger feeling of community and belonging than I've ever felt anywhere in the US. I'd take living in a block over mowing a lawn in suburbia any day of the week. And that was all still after capitalism destroyed their country.
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Also those apartment blocks, if in a large city, almost certainly are in walking distance to a tram. How many Americans can afford housing within walking distance to light rail?
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I guess my single point of reference led me to believe that living next to a light rail stop was way better for property values than it really is. Well nevertheless,
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Although you guys are talking about pretty big cities, whereas in many ex Soviet countries trams aren't uncommon in small or medium cities of only a few 100,000.
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I saw a documentary on Netflix a few years back about cyclist commuters and apparently LA at one point had a huge wooden boardwalk that acted as a highway for cyclists but the car industry destroyed it and you can still find traces of it in the alleys behind people's houses and stuff.
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Sep 9, 2019 20:29
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succ posted:Go to any middle class home and the AC never leaves 68. Now imagine explaining to them their lifestyle is unsustainable. poo poo like this makes me want to weep until I realize that I actually lust for the death of all humans.
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Sep 9, 2019 20:54
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:What is "the brink"? What magical transformative thing happens once we cross it? Well we all pass the brink at different times. There's a lot of Hondurans sitting in concentration camps in Texas who passed the brink a while ago.
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Sep 9, 2019 21:42
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Shima Honnou posted:Sister of a friend moved to Qatar recently and when I protested that it was dumb as poo poo and probably a death sentence their answer was it's okay because everything is air conditioned there. I had to go to Dubai once for work and it was literally hell on earth. My hotels entrance was basically an American style interstate off ramp, but also every street was basically built like an American interstate and walking anywhere was impossible. I didn't interact with a single Emirati, they all walked around like some demigods in their flowing white robes. At least there were a lot of chill Indians and therefore good food. Idk what Qatar is like but I can't imagine it's too different.
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Sep 9, 2019 21:47
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Sing Along posted:same for the survivors of dorian in the bahamas and, as is often cited, the population of syria. there are also a lot of people in india who are likely wistfully looking back at the brink You won't know you've passed the brink until you do, and after you pass it none of the unpassed will really care.
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Sep 9, 2019 21:52
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One time on a business trip in Denver I was heading back to my hotel after work. It was 5 o'clock and the crosswalk was packed with people heading home. A pathetic looking skinny woman was screaming "HELP ME! PLEASE SOMEONE HELP ME!" She dropped to her knees then let herself fall prostrate just absolutely loving bawling with misery. Not a single person looked directly at her. The little white man appeared on the crosswalk sign and I crossed the street with fifty other people leaving her all alone. Welp good luck Bahama people lol
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:We're talking about a planetary brink not a personal one. Where's the planetary brink? What happens? Losing an entire country (Syria) is hardly personal. We're already there, buddy. Its person by person, village by village, city by city. Planetary? Pretty sure the rock we live on will keep being a rock for a while.
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If your definition of the brink is earth being a prokaryotic soup, I'd suggest you change it. Global fascism and genocide coinciding with the destruction of nature (all advancing rapidly literally right now) is good enough for me.
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:Hey glad you finally figured out the point, there is no brink only a very large sliding scale of despair that we can affect. A different dude brought up the word brink, but anyway it doesn't matter. Guess we agree that any useful definition of brink is one we have already passed.
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hobbesmaster posted:some people use that argument unironically too yeah Buddhism rules. impermanence? hell yeah!
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Now there's a guy in the thread in the bad forum saying that the politics leading to a ban on meat scare him more than climate change lol
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