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Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:

My dude it's a posadist joke

Where are the dolphins?

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Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008


Just to be clear, this information is from a survey done in 2016? As in it was already discovered years ago, it's just that the paper presenting the results of the study/survey was published recently.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Has there been anything recent published about the grand solar minimum that is supposedly going to happen or is happening?

Everything I saw about it suggests that it would throw off the timetable by a couple of years.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

People seemed to have lived through the psychological horror of nuclear annihilation without completely falling apart. That was far more real and present than climate change. There probably won't be too many doomsday preppers until it's already too late and the supply chains and systems that keep urban centers alive have collapsed.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Torpor posted:

this story makes me laugh cause Nona is evidently the only motherfucker in the story who knows what they are doing, and is trying to look after Rue even when she doesn’t have to, but Rue wants to strangle her.

lmao what?

Nona is insulated by privilege and luck. Her character is a stand-in for the baby boomer generation of America. She got to enjoy the world when it was good, and still manages to be more comfortable than everyone else when everything is falling apart through sheer luck. She is completely ignorant of the suffering in the world and can sleep well at night because of it. Rue wants to strangle her because she is the symbol of ideology that ensured her childhood is so miserable.

It's not even subtext.

The subtext is that Nona is a huge piece of poo poo because she is a loving landlord and kicks out an entire family on a whim. Along with her job being to pave over all the psychological suffering and horror in the world through drugs as part of some ritual to keep the crumbling system going.

It's not a good story, but missing the point doesn't help.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Charlatan Eschaton posted:

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM MULTISPECTRAL SATELLITE IMAGERY INTO MY VISUAL CORTEX. IT'S OF THE EARTH BURNING AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DYING INTERNALLY ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, GAIA. I FEEL EVERY PLANT AND ANIMAL AND I CRY HARD. MAKING FLAME WOOSHING SOUNDS WHENEVER A RANCHER GETS BORED AND LIGHTS poo poo UP OR PERMAFROST SPONTANEOUSLY COMBUSTS. NOT MANY CAN SAY THEY DIED IN THE GALAXYS MOSY DANGEROUS PRISON. WE CAN.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

This is a problem of induced demand. Individual action will never solve it.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

TACD posted:

"prepare for +4C" is just "prepare to die" in a lab coat

Been doing that all my life really.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

redleader posted:

you think they'd have done anything about it at the time?

Besides burying the findings and anyone who might have ever mentioned it again?

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Nuclear holocaust is still on the table. It doesn't have to be genocide, most of humanity can just die in short enough order that it would be pointless to try and figure out who is ethnically cleansing who.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Cars kinda suck, there's problems besides them burning dinosaur juice. There's some lovely social aspects like road rage and drunk driving, probably some others. They pollute in ways besides just exhaust, like say break dust. There's other problems with cars and America being built around the personal car that won't be fixed by switching to electric engines.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Hexigrammus posted:

Unless you want artisinal bespoke microplastic-free sea salt.
Salt is a pretty stable crystalline compound. You could probably find some ways to separate out the plastic.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

The cool zone thread goes through more severe bouts of depression. Although that's because they are riding the roller coaster of hope.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

LMAO anyone seriously bringing up domes. Or space colonies for that matter. How many years you think those would last when we can't even manage a more robust environment of a planet.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Woof Blitzer posted:

Living in the Evangelion dome with my watermelons

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Taintrunner posted:

fire tornado time

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumulonimbus_flammagenitus#Notable_events

Seems like Australia had three in the last twenty years. Time to step your game up USA.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Complications posted:

Climate Change: Decades sooner than anticipated

Hell yeah. Can't wait for rich dumb shits to start with "What the gently caress, I had decades yo, I don't even have my bunker ready bro. poo poo sucks man."

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

quote:

David Attenborough

Actually, I’ve never made a major series in which we didn’t, in the last program, say, “Well, now we’ve shown you all these wonders, but there are these problems.” Every one I’ve ever made for the past 40 years has said that.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

mdemone posted:

oh now I'm gonna rip up your mind.

Einstein's field equations don't give a gently caress about time. it's not even a thing.

you can make fully legitimate universes in which if you travel long enough in one direction, you wind up back when/where you came from.

that would be called a "closed time-like curve", and it's not possible in *our* universe but not because general relativity gives a gently caress. it's a perfectly decent solution to the field equations.

here's the problem: that probably means that A-series time (to use McTaggart notation) doesn't exist at all.

google "eternalism" and then add that to multiverse theory because QM has to be unitary over time

This is where theoretical physics gets very unsatisfying. There's a lot of interesting thought experiments and theories, they however have no consequence on the material reality that anyone experiences. It makes no difference at all if there is no such thing as time, or if it's one single immutable block, or we are just traveling a long a space time plane. We are still bound to the emergent property of reality that we call time.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

mdemone posted:

ooooh somebody just realized we don't have free will

Nah, I thought it before and my conclusion is that it makes no difference.

We can't even define what free will or consciousness is.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

redleader posted:

humans are well known at not being able to effectively reason about low risk/big spectacle events vs high risk/mundane events

There's always a third option, high risk/big spectacle. Nuclear war is still on the table.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pingo

Ah this seems like it's caused by expansion and contraction of ice trapped under soil.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Rah! posted:

article says its methane pockets exploding as the earth eventually weakens from the pressure below

It's a very poorly written article and it's not very clear.

Presumably the pictures of the craters with water in them were just filled with ice.

The article refers to the scientist, or someone, observing the explosion of gas in real time. But they don't really provide any additional evidence to support that or indicate which craters were caused by explosion and which by collapse.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

mdemone posted:

read Metzinger

I tried, it's just so tedious. Being No One is incomprehensible with all the philosophical jargon. Ego Tunnel is for layman but he spends too much time trying to make his conclusions seem more plausible with sophistry. His starting points seem interesting and well thought-out but his conclusions and explanations seem lacking.

Although he did manage to convince me of two things. That it's an interesting to think of people as computational systems constantly trying to solve themselves and failing because it's physically impossible.

And that goon who suggested to practice meditation was absolutely right.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/6/36/eabb2313

quote:

Past extinction rate increases

On a global level, we find that current extinction rates are around 1700 times [1200 to 2300 times, 95% highest posterior density (HPD) interval] higher than those at the beginning of the Late Pleistocene (Fig. 1). A simple simulation shows how severe these current rates are: The 351 global mammal species extinctions that have occurred since the beginning of the Late Pleistocene would occur within only 810 years [95% confidence interval (CI), 500 to 1100 years] under the highly elevated current extinction rates, while they would take 1.75 Ma (CI, 0.95 to 2.99 Ma) if the extinction rates had remained unchanged since the beginning of the Late Pleistocene (fig. S1). The rate-shift model that was most supported by the global data in our analyses suggests four events of significant increases in extinction rates. The inferred times for these extinction rate increases are 63,800 to 32,200 years ago, 16,000 to 9500 years ago, 2300 to 600 years ago, and 180 and 120 years ago (HPD; Table 1).

Not really climate related, humans are just lovely stewards of the environment and tend to kill off other animals living in the same region. Or so the study claims.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Milo and POTUS posted:

How long did the KT extinction take in comparison

No idea. Wikipedia is claiming it could have been less than 10,000 years. This study is looking at a slightly larger time frame. According to their results the rate of extinction picks up around 60,000 years ago and goes up. So a good deal slower than just earth getting smacked by an asteroid.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

quote:

JUST BEFORE 130 PM PDT TODAY, SEPTEMBER 6TH, 2020, THE
TEMPERATURE REACHED A BLAZING 121 DEGREES AT THE OFFICIAL SITE AT
WOODLAND HILLS IN PIERCE COLLEGE IN THE WESTERN SAN FERNANDO VALLEY.
THIS BROKE THE ALL-TIME RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE FOR THE STATION
WHICH WAS 119 DEGREES, SETS ON JULY 22, 2006.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

PhilippAchtel posted:

No, I don't think I like this very much.

Agreed, Disco Inferno would be a much more appropriate track to use.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

comedyblissoption posted:

im sure the very non-psyop xr is giving [NOT POLITICAL] commentary about the situation in bolivia and not just going radio silent now that the coup was successful

drat, manufacturing consent is some hosed up poo poo.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

Kurzgesagt did a climate change video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbR-5mHI6bo

It's pretty tepid. Thought I'd post it anyway though

Yeah this is based on free market capitalism. So I guess it's a good argument for why capitalism needs to stop.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

This kind of sums up how I've been feeling today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq5KWLqUewc&t=281s

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Also the leak they found was from like 2016 or something?

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Shima Honnou posted:

There's been 7592 days since January 1st, 2000 lmao

Well that's not nearly double, I don't see a problem here.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008


very :coolzone:

quote:

Since February, when federal forces first occupied the dam to ensure water deliveries to the United States continued, activists in Chihuahua have burned government buildings, destroyed cars and briefly held a group of politicians hostage. For weeks, they’ve blocked a major railroad used to ferry industrial goods between Mexico and the United States.

Mr. Velderrain, 42, said he never saw himself as the type of person who would lead hundreds over a hill to overwhelm a group of soldiers protecting a cache of automatic weapons. But there he was in a video posted on Facebook, escorting a Mexican general out of the Boquilla Dam on the day he led the takeover.

“We have always dedicated ourselves to work; we’ve never been known as protesters,” Mr. Velderrain said back on his farm, shucking an ear of corn that wasn’t quite ready for harvest. “What happened at the Boquilla dam was impressive, because we took off our farmer clothes and put on the uniform of guerrilla fighters.”

Edit

quote:

Francisco Marta, a 23-year-old who manages his father’s corn and alfalfa fields, suspects that his fellow farmers don’t have the Mexican president’s sympathies in the water dispute because they are generally not members of his poor and working class political base. The farmers live in the north, traditionally a stronghold of the conservative opposition against Mr. López Obrador, who ran on a leftist platform.
Ah, I see the kulaks are at it again.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

BIG HEADLINE posted:

The chance of collision is "greater than 10%" now with a projected miss distance of ~12m, which I believe means distance from the CG of both objects, so given their size there's a chance of a glancing hit.

https://www.space.com/amp/possible-space-junk-collision-leolabs-oct-15-2020

quote:

A "search-mode scan" scheduled for shortly after the close approach should reveal if a collision did in fact occur, LeoLabs said in another tweet. And we should all keep our fingers crossed for a near miss; a smashup would likely result in a "significant (10 to 20 percent) increase in the LEO debris environment," McDowell said in another tweet. ("LEO" stands for "low Earth orbit.")

Such a debris superspreader event would not be unprecedented. In February 2009, for example, the operational Iridium 33 communications satellite collided with the defunct Russian military satellite Kosmos 2251. The smashup generated 1,800 pieces of trackable debris by the following October, as well as many others too small to detect.

Humanity has also twice spawned big debris clouds on purpose — during anti-satellite tests in 2007 and 2019 conducted by China and India, respectively.
lol

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/arctic/2020/10/north-pole-ice-cap-too-thin-testing-russias-giant-icebreaker

quote:

“Ice tests are still ahead, probably this year, because now ice tests did not work out, the ice thickness was 1,1 to 1,2 meters. It was thin and loose, the icebreaker received no resistance at all,” Shchapin says.

He adds: “We tried to find a three-meters ice floe, but they did not find it.”

Shchapin did not elaborate on where to find three meters thick ice. Currently, the entire Northern Sea Route north of Siberia from the Kara Sea to the Bering Strait is open waters. The ice cap further north has never been reported weaker and thinner than this year.

The four other vessels in the class are named Sibir, Ural, Yakutiya and Chukotka. They are expected to start operations from 2021 to 2027.

Look at those dumb Russians thinking they'll need icebreakers in 2027.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

2020 rules. Lol at everyone saying that 2012 was still the lowest point.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

quote:

An "ice-free" Arctic Ocean, sometimes referred to as a "Blue Ocean Event",[21] is often defined as "having less than 1 million square kilometers of sea ice", because it is very difficult to melt the thick ice around the Canadian Arctic Archipelago.[22][23][24] The IPCC AR5 defines "nearly ice-free conditions" as sea ice extent less than 106 km2 for at least five consecutive years.[4]

Many scientists have attempted to estimate when the Arctic will be "ice-free". Professor Peter Wadhams of the University of Cambridge is among these scientists;[25] Wadhams in 2014 predicted that by 2020 "summer sea ice to disappear,"[26][27] Wadhams and several others have noted that climate model predictions have been overly conservative regarding sea ice decline.[1][28] A 2013 paper suggested that models commonly underestimate the solar radiation absorption characteristics of wildfire soot.[29] In 2007, Professor Wieslaw Maslowski from the Naval Postgraduate School, California, predicted removal of summer ice by 2013;[30] subsequently, in 2013, Maslowski predicted 2016 ±3 years.[31]

Off by at least one or two years, climate scientists BTFO.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

There was a bunch of posts and I thought something new happened.

Turns out it was just another repeat of old news.

Don't get my hopes up like this please.

Edit: Although the Himalaya stuff is cool. I didn't know that.

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Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Giga Gaia posted:

youd think but its one really big lizard
Yeah right. If Godzilla was real we wouldn't have to worry about this mess anymore.

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