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Perry Mason Jar posted:You know people say to me, "Well humans may go extinct but animals and plants, they'll continue right on," and I say, "Honestly? Doubtful." Rats, cats, and some hardy weeds will go on living. Biodiversity though? lmao
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Peanut President posted:yeah i agree considering we don't even know what sea ice's WAR is, and don't even get me started on polar bears' terrible BABIP Every time a big ice shelf collapses is like Mike Trout going 1-for-2 with two walks. Like, we know he'll be in the Hall of Fame eventually, why breathlessly keep track of the details.
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Aug 25, 2020 23:45
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Milo and POTUS posted:Crichton was a huge piece of poo poo and I'm glad he's dead I enjoyed his earlier writing and State Of Fear made me sad to realize he was an rear end in a top hat. Now they're ruining his legacy by turning every half-finished story outline on his laptop into a ghostwritten novel, I hope his family is giving the money to better causes than he would. State of Fear was a trip. The ecoterrorists used explosives to split off a huge Antarctic glacier, and launched rockets trailing wires into a raincloud to trigger a thunderstorm. There's a Galt speech with full-page diagrams of the temperature change in various cities around the world. The smart guy who unravels the conspiracy points out that Russia has recorded some of the high levels of warming, and asks "You really think a Russian guy can read a thermometer accurately?"
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Elman posted:3.6ºC of warming? Not great, not terrible. It's not three species going extinct, it's fifteen million.
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Blockade posted:There are no effective tactics that you can talk about publicly, that won't be met with violence, and that won't be subverted by the media. I think people should plan with that in mind. You're in C-SPAM, I'm curious what secret tactics you know that are legal and non-violent that will make a difference
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Sep 7, 2020 18:14
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Milo and POTUS posted:The plan will be eco fascism They will skip the "eco". A huge segment of Americans believe the current wildfires are caused by Antifa, and we can expect all major natural disasters for the foreseeable future to get blamed on them as well. The rich will never admit that they are responsible for climate change, even when they lose a couple of their mansions to hurricanes and derechos.
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Sep 12, 2020 10:56
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Milo and POTUS posted:Isn't economics a hotbed of conservativism or do you mean in the neoliberal sense Conservative economics is the view that the government should never interfere in the economy ever, liberal economics is the view that the government should avoid interfering in the economy but massive cash handouts to corporations are OK
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Sep 19, 2020 23:51
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PhilippAchtel posted:My personal favorite: IIRC it was after the air raid on Guernica that people realized a serious, non-religious way that the world could end. Thousands of bombers blanketing every major city in nerve gas, and then ten years later, that fear became bombers dropping A-bombs.
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Oct 11, 2020 22:47
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 I made this infographic to illustrate how bad we've hosed up the planet. Look at the size of the "wild" squares compared to everything else. Also shows how stupid eco-fascism is, because if you think billions of humans have to die to sustain your lifestyle, it's time to put down the burger. (Updated) Chamale has issued a correction as of 22:40 on Oct 27, 2020 |
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Oct 27, 2020 22:25
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Thanks for the feedback!TeenageArchipelago posted:I feel like this is incomplete. No chickens? No fish? Trout are land animals gently caress me, I had the data for chickens and just completely forgot to put them in. I need to rearrange things to make the chickens fit. Fish are not land animals, though. Homeless Friend posted:why tf does the cat have transparency, unfair imo Good point, I found a non-transparent image of a cat. JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Is everything in the "humans" square humans? Yes. Doesn't include our cars and buildings and so on.
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Oct 27, 2020 22:38
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Loucks posted:My biology is hazy, but it’d be interesting to see bugs (or just insects) on that chart given that I fully expect to have to develop a taste for cricket flour if I live long enough to get old. Insects would be bigger than the whole chart. They outweigh humans by a factor of 15 to 1. The chart only includes land vertebrates.
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Oct 27, 2020 22:54
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Rauros posted:how are reptiles more than birds? crocs? Estimating reptile numbers is hard and hadn't been done before this study. They used three different methods which estimated 3,000 million tonnes, 6 million tonnes, or 0.3 million tonnes. The study authors went with the geometric mean of those numbers, 19 million tonnes, but if you instead go with the median of the estimates there is less reptile biomass than wild birds. I'd rather do that, but I'm going to go with the study's conclusions rather than trying to fix what seems like a mistake to me. I like the notion that the first estimate is correct, and we're secretly living in The Age Of Reptiles, but it seems like an obvious outlier.
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Oct 28, 2020 01:52
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Beans are delicious and can be cooked so many ways. Don't eat bugs, eat tofu and tacos and beans & rice and bean curd biscuits erry day
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Oct 28, 2020 05:48
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I eat something bean-derived every day. Can of maple beans for lunch, tofu fried in garlic ginger and chili flakes for dinner. Unless y'all are eating bugs every day you can't match my praxis. (Also, to harvest insect protein on an industrial scale you need to feed them something, so it's less efficient than just growing the plants and eating them yourself)
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Oct 28, 2020 06:16
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redleader posted:the worst part is that we won't even see oil execs dragged through the streets Pessimist
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Oct 29, 2020 06:49
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The night I went into cardiac arrest I was feeling doomed all night, so I stayed up late translating old poetry about death. The paramedic looked a little freaked out when I started speaking in Latin the fear of death disturbs me. I did die but CPR brought me back. Being dead sucks and we should do something to make sure lots of people don't die, anyway, how's the ol' climate doing?
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Oct 29, 2020 22:24
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Tree Bucket posted:Ah! I've heard that cardiac arrest induces an intense feeling of DOOM. Kind of cool to know it's a real thing. Translating old stuff is a minor hobby of mine, but the reason for that particular one was definitely to do with the vague sense of doom. At that point I already had a clot in my lungs putting strain on my heart.
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Oct 30, 2020 06:56
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Livestock in America eats more grain and legumes every year than all of the humans in Africa. Our consumption is so incredibly wasteful that just getting rid of most animal agriculture and business travel would cut GHG emissions in half, with no appreciable change in quality of life except for idiots who don't want to learn to cook new things, or who insist on doing international meetings in person.
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Nov 2, 2020 18:38
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Maha posted:I don't think voluntarily giving up comfort is something that humans do, we just run everything as hard as we can until it falls apart or gets taken from us. There is no remembrance of former things, neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after. People who refuse to give up meaningless comforts that are destroying the planet will be asked nicely, then asked rudely, then gulaged.
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Nov 2, 2020 20:31
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Mameluke posted:not gonna happen Per my previous email, Chamale posted:People who refuse to give up meaningless comforts that are destroying the planet will be asked nicely, then asked rudely, then gulaged.
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Nov 2, 2020 20:47
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Just remember to say "lmao that owns". Like, this planet has had the biosphere obliterated by a gamma ray burst and by a comet impact, now it's a chimpanzee adapted to walk long distances. That's really funny! Not as funny or destructive as the plant with poison farts that killed everything, but then consider that we dug up and burned that plant so much that it's killing everything again.
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Nov 3, 2020 20:21
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Australian spotted jellyfish, which eat dead coral, are spreading all over the oceans because there's a lot of dead coral.
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Nov 6, 2020 19:15
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Torpor posted:why’d that guy say escimo was a slur? as far as I can tell Eskimo is not a slur as long as you aren’t approaching every single indigenous person north of the Arctic circle and calling them Eskimo. Eskimo is definitely a slur and there are very few Inuit or Yupik people who would appreciate being called that.
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Nov 14, 2020 02:46
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silicone thrills posted:The best part about playing Civ is they added in a climate change pack and if you play the game on max difficulty the AI melts the icecaps usually by around 1790ish and then they usually lose by losing most of their cities to being swallowed up by the sea. Where as I, very intelligent being, ensure that I only build my cities on high ground. Hah. HAHAHAHAHA. I've posted before about the problem where once the game hits Maximum Climate Change, the sea level stops rising any further, and it's pretty common to max out the carbon emissions number before the end of a game. I'd like to make a mod where high levels of climate change cause progressively worse crop failures, but it seems beyond my meagre programming abilities.
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Nov 17, 2020 03:24
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Conspiratiorist posted:The whole climate change thing runs fundamentally counter to the game's core philosophy of Number Go Up. That's true. Usually it's just Number Go Up until someone wins, but the few times it doesn't end that way are hilarious. Civ V made it possible to borrow money at low interest rates, so I'd run a Keynesian policy and occasionally have spectacular economic meltdowns. VI doesn't really do the same, sadly. One of the best games I ever had was a game of IV where the developed world nuked each other to bits, and one of the poorer countries was able to limp its way to victory. Posada world.
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T-man posted:solar power Solar power and wind power could make a difference if we started a WWII-scale effort to make them, couldn't they? America had factories that made a bomber every hour, a president who took things seriously would use every avenue available to get rid of conventional power plants.
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Nov 22, 2020 08:07
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shirunei posted:It doesn't help that all the fake meat alternatives are so ungodly expensive in comparison to the actual product. Tofu is cheap, and marinated pressed tofu is easy to cook and delicious. Check Asian grocery stores for the best selection.
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Nov 22, 2020 18:43
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Peanut President posted:I mean you could have 300 million americans stop eating meat but the government would still subsidize it and the corps would just dump it on the third world/into the grand canyon or whatever. Reminder that 70%+ americans wanted an NHS and we got "buy insurance or get a fine", nevermind the 800 billion dollar bank bailout that was criticized by literally everyone. Are you recommending vegan ecoterrorism, or should we sit around hoping someone comes up with an idea to fix things?
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Nov 22, 2020 22:05
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Shima Honnou posted:The only part that sucks is we won't be alive to see the hilarious sketches and poo poo they use to try to represent what we must have looked like. If any primates are still around, they'll probably assume we were covered in fur.
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Dec 1, 2020 23:51
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Would railways leave enough iron in the ground to be detectable? A network of iron running in straight lines, connecting various points that have unusual amounts of iron and silicon, would likely stand out to distant future archaeologists.
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The Mad Max series is a documentary about the years 2030-2050.
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Hodgepodge posted:i doubt anything could crush the hope from a person like having a front seat view of all of this and being outright ignored by anyone with power to do anything about it I've been utterly paralyzed by depression for several months now after seeing so many people killed by the non-response to COVID-19. It's like an easy mode test run of climate change, and most societies failed to address it beyond the wildest doomer predictions.
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Weather chat: Normally in Calgary in December, it's too cold for precipitation. This year we've had 70 centimetres of snow over the past five days.uncop posted:I think most of the horror about collapse is due to this boomer-influenced mindset that one's life should be planned long term and follow some kind of happy upward trend and end with a nice, stable family. And that the purpose of a parent is to secure that type of future for their offspring as well. That's the loss that young people seem to be grieving or deluding themselves about. The cure is to not get so attached to imaginary futures, stop obsessing about instability, and appreciate the moment. Living prepared to die, for your children to die etc. isn't alien at all to human existence. Due to capitalism, we have an instinct to associate ruin with the much worse fate of being cast out of society and left to fend for ourselves however we can, but when everyone's getting ruined at the same time, what's going to happen is the opposite: people stick close together for security. This is an extremely good post and I appreciate it. Chamale has issued a correction as of 20:01 on Dec 25, 2020 |
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Hodgepodge posted:lol, i got to #1 and: Currently 90% of the world's energy comes from burning fuels, 5% from nuclear, and 5% from renewable sources. In 2030 it will be 80% fuel, 4% nuclear, 15% renewable, and 1% fusion, so the TV will declare that clean energy has arrived and climate change is over.
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I was thinking how in Interstellar there's great detail of how the farmers are eating nothing but various corn dishes. If I ever make a movie set in the near future, the protagonists will eat an inordinate amount of bean curd biscuits. I love them but there's something that feels vaguely Dystopian Future about a delicious featureless puck of protein and fibre.Cup Runneth Over posted:Ban the car, ban the plane, gulag any who complain Anyway, new thread title please.
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Tubgoat posted:I guess I will now. There a difference between bean curd and tofu? They are made somewhat differently, but the ingredients are similar. Two good brands are Zuming and Zhen Xiang, look in an Asian grocery store. It owns, basically vegan jerky for under $1 per 100 grams. And way better in terms of carbon emissions than beef jerky!
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Tubgoat posted:Oh that sounds loving excellent. Say, where do I get mushroom jerky? PETA gave some out at the college I was attending a long while back and it was one of the more delicious things I've ever eaten. You could try Whole Foods but I have no idea where you'd get inexpensive mushroom jerky. Whereas bean curd biscuits are under $1/100g, mushroom jerky is more like $20/100g and doesn't taste as good. PETA are basically vegan-themed grifters, they care more about shock value than helping animals. They know some good vegan food, though.
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ptkfvk posted:what are bean curd biscuts? im intrigued. Food of the future!  100 grams contains 300 calories and 15 grams of protein. By contrast, 100 grams of beef contains 290 calories and 26 grams of protein. A 100-gram serving requires 50 grams of CO2 equivalent to produce. Producing a 100-gram serving of beef requires 1,600 to 10,000 grams of CO2 equivalent, depending on the methods used. The average in American is 7,100.
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Jan 10, 2021 18:48
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MightyBigMinus posted:and how many of those grams are carbs and of those how many are straight up sugar It's jerky, not a cookie. I know "biscuit" is misleading. According to the label, each bag has 23 grams of fat, 15 grams of protein, and 9 grams of cards including 0.5 grams of sugar. Also, I'm not saying this is the only food of the future like mangosteens or whatever, it's just a good example of cheap good food that is orders of magnitude better than meat.
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The key to losing weight is to eat fewer calories than you burn. Whether you achieve that with keto, or one big meal a day, or three meals with calories counting, will vary for each individual. The average American eats 30% more food than they need and the main reasons for all the overconsumption are capitalism and a stressful lifestyle.
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