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lol drat that report looks good and has some depresssing as gently caress bits https://wedocs.unep.org/bitstream/handle/20.500.11822/27687/Arctic_Graphics.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y
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# ¿ Apr 17, 2024 20:52 |
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Thawing permafrost is an important part of the changing cryosphere which scientists have been documenting – and many communities have been living with – for years. Permafrost is ground that remains frozen for two or more years and occurs in high latitudes and altitudes, as well as under Arctic continental shelves. It occupies approximately 22 per cent of the Earth’s surface (NSIDC, 2018). Across the world, these frozen soils hold an estimated 1,500 billion tons of carbon – double the amount of carbon currently in the atmosphere (Schuur et al., 2008) – and half the world’s soil carbon (AMAP, 2017a). ... Under a high emissions scenario, stable permafrost will likely only remain in the Canadian Arctic Archipelago, the Russian Arctic coast and the east Siberian uplands
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# ¿ Mar 14, 2019 19:38 |
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EvilJoven posted:poo poo like this makes me wonder if one should put stock in maltheism. I mean yeah bioweapons is always a booming industry
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# ¿ Mar 15, 2019 07:29 |
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mdemone posted:it's going to turn out that a generational starship, although a terrible idea, will also be the only chance. That starship’s name? Earth
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# ¿ Mar 17, 2019 22:10 |
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If we have the technology for generation ships we have the technology to live on earth. Going to space remains fygm and the fantasy about saving the species with the Martian Kingdom of Musk are nothing more.
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# ¿ Mar 17, 2019 22:47 |
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Rime posted:They're all well within our ability to fix, the issue is a collective desire to die rather than lose luxury. I actually don’t think that’s the collective desire. I think power is distributed among a few and it is those few who hold the values of fygm at a global scale.
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# ¿ Mar 18, 2019 00:17 |
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EvilJoven posted:Theres enough of them to doom the rest, and funny enough a lot of them will go on for days about how progressive they are and how much they hate trump and racists... until something threatens their easy access to luxuries and then they'll goose step in line. Ok but let’s be clear about the situation. This isn’t humanity choosing death, it’s our overlords.
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# ¿ Mar 18, 2019 03:19 |
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General Dog posted:Climate reform could have happened if it had public buy-in like the pro-gun and anti-abortion causes had. Ultimately, the public was indifferent and voted against any kind of policy that would be inconvenient. Climate reform could have happened if Obama hadn’t intentionally sabotaged it to get some ego boosting headlines about bipartisanship. And he still literally demands we thank him for doing it.
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# ¿ Mar 26, 2019 22:26 |
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Homeless Friend posted:why stop at crops imo... got a whole ecosystem to replace like for real we're going to just have to engineer it all
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# ¿ Mar 27, 2019 03:50 |
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it still boggles me that the paperclip poo poo wasnt started as a pop way to explain marxism
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2019 03:48 |
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Axetrain posted:It's really weird to broach climate change as a subject with other people who consider themselves progressives because even they label you an alarmist. Which is true of course, I personally think we should be somewhat alarmed at our impending doom but hey that's just me. Specifics are where you bridge that gap. If you talk about the collapse of global civilization people cant understand that. but if you say "that river will be dry by 2045" or "itll be 105˚F most of the days in may" people can understand that as loving up their lives EvilJoven posted:News flash people who claim to be progressive but balk at giving up basically all their personal possessions save maybe a few changes of clothes a toothbrush a phone and a bicycle if thats what its going to take to save us from climate change arent progressives they're Liberal collaborators. i mean we both know that if i did all that today it would mean jack loving poo poo. hard to get people to believe in sacrifices when the solutions arent real
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2019 04:07 |
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vyelkin posted:Also Britain was like the coal capital of the world in the 19th century so while it's good that they're back down to those levels, they already had pretty high levels in the 1890s are they still shipping in wood from the us to burn and calling it carbon neutral?
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# ¿ Mar 29, 2019 06:59 |
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zegermans posted:there is nothing above cat5, its an open-ended designation lol someone has never heard of cat5e or cat6 i take it
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2019 17:36 |
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Funky See Funky Do posted:Aren't we almost out of sand? Off the top of my head: Sand, phosphate, top soil, non livestock mammals, birds that aren't chickens , and fish. What am I missing? we aren’t running out of sand, we’re running out of the cheapest and nicest sand to get, there is still a bunch more sand but just more expensive to get
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# ¿ Apr 5, 2019 14:37 |
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oopies we drilled so much natural gas in the Permian Basin and now they’re paying people to take gas. Like not just free, negative pricequote:In a clear illustration of the potential inverse relationship between crude oil and natural gas prices amid supply growth in the U.S. onshore, a glut of associated gas output continued to crush spot prices in the Permian Basin on Tuesday. lol we’re so hosed
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# ¿ Apr 6, 2019 17:58 |
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hobbesmaster posted:Natural gas used to just be vented or burned off because it wasn't really worth it to capture and transport for an oil operation. Oh yeah they’re flaring in the Permian too, but they just drilled so much gas they can’t flare it all. quote:Natural gas flaring in the Permian Basin could exceed 1 Bcf/d at some point this year before the first of the major pipeline takeaway projects comes online, according to data compiled by analysts with Sanford C. Bernstein & Co. LLC. 1 billion cubic feet a day of natural gas burned away for nothing.
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# ¿ Apr 6, 2019 22:03 |
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Acelerion posted:Gas flaring is a monstrously stupid and wasteful practice, but I guess it beats direct venting to the atmosphere which used to be common. lol if you think the companies tell the truth to regulators quote:Using National Oceanic and Atmospheric (NOAA) Earth Observation Group satellite data, Environmental Defense Fund (EDF) analyzed flaring rates and volumes in the Permian for 2017. The results are eye-opening. The satellite data indicates Permian operators burned 104 billion cubic feet of natural gas—4.4 percent of all gas produced. However, industry only reported 55 billion cubic feet of gas burned to the RRC in that same year.
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# ¿ Apr 7, 2019 18:34 |
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like people can actually taste if the coffee is real or just another flavor pump in their blonde chai mocha frappe
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# ¿ Apr 14, 2019 23:41 |
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Rime posted:It is vastly easier to stop destroying our entire loving biosphere than it is to kickstart a new one on a dead rear end planet like Mars. Right but what if instead we just destroy our entire planet and the the lucky survivors get to live on earth like it’s mars but with decent o2 levels for now
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# ¿ Apr 15, 2019 10:44 |
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General Dog posted:Some protestor interrupts my commute, I don't care how righteous their cause is, I'm praying (and voting) for them to get the swiftest, hardest boot to the face imaginable. Bull Connor is that you?
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2019 16:25 |
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General Dog posted:Maybe I'm in a hurry to get home from work and drink on the treadmill and watch Marvelous Mrs. Maisel You can just type “fygm” it’s shorter
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2019 21:00 |
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Shipon posted:i'm sure those companies and individuals only produce purely for themselves and not because people are using their products this lovely analysis starts to fall apart when those hyper rich oil execs use their power and money to bury the evidence on climate change and lobby against any attempt to regulate their industries this libertarian bullshit of "well cant blame the people running the companies blame the government for not banning their behavior" always seems to ignore the fact the companies spend billions to prevent that from happening.
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2019 23:19 |
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but exxon has a moral obligation to destroy humanity if it might increase shareholder value you say
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2019 23:20 |
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StabbinHobo posted:as wildly pro local organizing and public-transit/new-urbanism as I am, the sad and simple fact is that most american "cities" will be more abandoned than fixed (think detroit). are you talking metros of 5k or 50k or 500k
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2019 18:09 |
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Seriously I see no reasons most metros of 50k+ can’t survive climate change. Sure the town of 1,000 is boned. But so is Phoenix.
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2019 20:06 |
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Mayor Dave posted:I find it hard to believe that there are any poor people of any color making that commute, everyone I've ever known making that drive regularly have been rich assholes That says more about you than anything
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2019 20:06 |
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1994 Toyota Celica posted:what do they eat Potatoes, worms, crickets, the same as in the big cities
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2019 21:50 |
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Bass Concert Hall posted:Moving into dense urban cores sounds like a bad idea TBH. If the main challenge climate change is going to pose over the short term is big drops in crop yields, it seems smarter to go buy some acreage and learn how to grow as much of your family’s food needs as possible while holding out hope that everyone in Chicago and New York dies of bird flu. you cant build communities of true resilience at the smaller scales. you either need a big government making sure the electric trains run on time so you can get replacement parts or you have to be a community large enough to be technologically self sustaining. id give most people in chicago or new york better chances than people in the rural midwest
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2019 00:53 |
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Wakko posted:two years lmao the context is there are 2 big UN reports then, that’s what it’s talking about
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# ¿ May 3, 2019 16:28 |
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vyelkin posted:the best will be if someone else wins the 2020 election and then the us vetoes climate change agreements in the lame duck session anyway lol you optimists assuming that if the meeting happens in 2020 the treaty will be ready by 2025
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# ¿ May 3, 2019 18:20 |
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phasmid posted:They don't have enough drones to watch the entire fertile band. Botslayers, unite. lol fertile band that’s some good pre-climate change thinking here
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# ¿ May 7, 2019 02:42 |
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ok thread i give ya what you need, some more were hosed: Nature across most of the globe has now been significantly altered by multiple human drivers, with the great majority of indicators of ecosystems and biodiversity showing rapid decline. Seventy-five per cent of the land surface is significantly altered, 66 per cent of the ocean area is experiencing increasing cumulative impacts, and over 85 per cent of wetlands (area) has been lost. While the rate of forest loss has slowed globally since 2000, this is distributed unequally. Across much of the highly biodiverse tropics, 32 million hectares of primary or recovering forest were lost between 2010 and 2015. The extent of tropical and subtropical forests is increasing within some countries, and the global extent of temperate and boreal forests is increasing. A range of actions – from restoration of natural forest to planting of monocultures – contribute to these increases but have very different consequences for biodiversity and its contributions to people. Approximately half the live coral cover on coral reefs has been lost since the 1870s, with accelerating losses in recent decades due to climate change exacerbating other drivers. The average abundance of native species in most major terrestrial biomes has fallen by at least 20 per cent, potentially affecting ecosystem processes and hence nature’s contributions to people; this decline has mostly taken place since 1900 and may be accelerating. In areas of high endemism, native biodiversity has often been severely impacted by invasive alien species. Population sizes of wild vertebrate species have tended to decline over the last 50 years on land, in freshwater and in the sea. Global trends in insect populations are not known but rapid declines have been well documented in some places.
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# ¿ May 8, 2019 17:16 |
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Human actions threaten more species with global extinction now than ever before. An average of around 25 per cent of species in assessed animal and plant groups are threatened (figure SPM.3), suggesting that around 1 million species already face extinction, many within decades, unless action is taken to reduce the intensity of drivers of biodiversity loss. Without such action there will be a further acceleration in the global rate of species extinction, which is already at least tens to hundreds of times higher than it has averaged over the past 10 million years.
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# ¿ May 8, 2019 17:17 |
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Globally, local varieties and breeds of domesticated plants and animals are disappearing. This loss of diversity, including genetic diversity, poses a serious risk to global food security by undermining the resilience of many agricultural systems to threats such as pests, pathogens and climate change. Fewer and fewer varieties and breeds of plants and animals are being cultivated, raised, traded and maintained around the world, despite many local efforts, which include those by indigenous peoples and local communities. By 2016, 559 of the 6,190 domesticated breeds of mammals used for food and agriculture (over 9 per cent) had become extinct and at least 1,000 more are threatened. In addition, many crop wild relatives that are important for long-term food security lack effective protection, and the conservation status of wild relatives of domesticated mammals and birds is worsening. Reductions in the diversity of cultivated crops, crop wild relatives and domesticated breeds mean that agroecosystems are less resilient against future climate change, pests and pathogens.
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# ¿ May 8, 2019 17:17 |
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Except in scenarios that include transformative change, negative trends in nature, ecosystem functions and in many of nature’s contributions to people are projected to continue to 2050 and beyond, due to the projected impacts of increasing land/and sea-use change, exploitation of organisms and climate change. Negative impacts arising from pollution and invasive alien species will likely exacerbate these trends. There are large regional differences in the projected patterns of future biodiversity and ecosystem functions and loss and changes in nature’s contributions to people. These differences arise from direct and indirect drivers of change, which are projected to impact regions in different ways. While regions worldwide face further declines in biodiversity in future projections, tropical regions face particular combined risks of declines due to interactions of climate change, land-use change and fisheries exploitation. Marine and terrestrial biodiversity in boreal, subpolar and polar regions is projected to decline mostly because of warming, sea ice retreat and enhanced ocean acidification. The magnitude of impacts and the differences between regions are much greater in scenarios with rapid increases in consumption or human population than in scenarios based on sustainability. Acting immediately and simultaneously on multiple indirect and direct drivers has the potential to slow, halt and even reverse some aspects of biodiversity and ecosystem loss.
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# ¿ May 8, 2019 17:21 |
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-From the Summary for policymakers of the global assessment report on biodiversity and ecosystem services of the Intergovernmental Science-Policy Platform on Biodiversity and Ecosystem Services For further depressed reading: https://www.ipbes.net/sites/default/files/downloads/spm_unedited_advance_for_posting_htn.pdf
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# ¿ May 8, 2019 17:22 |
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ok now you guys ready for the boss-level, gut punches? cause today im serving them hot: https://twitter.com/KateBrauman/status/1124617037031124992 https://twitter.com/BalvaneraPatty/status/1124616473580920832 https://twitter.com/dabicho2990/status/1124613501954207744 https://twitter.com/jakjobes/status/1124380357556617217
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# ¿ May 8, 2019 17:31 |
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Mordor She Wrote posted:Everyone thinking about suicide, don't do it yet, look at this map. lol you know there are a few ceos pissed they didnt make the map
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# ¿ May 8, 2019 18:22 |
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Shipon posted:Okay but what if they just do what they did when Obama told them they could retrain into clean energy jobs (yes, horseshit in the end) and they threw a massive fit saying they wanted to do what their parents and grandparents did and worked in the coal mines or the auto factories? They're still going to fight something simply because it's unfamiliar to them. Well right, if we know its horseshit in the end, why poo poo on people for not falling for the bs?
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# ¿ May 8, 2019 21:46 |
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# ¿ Apr 17, 2024 20:52 |
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those unions did a bad job because all the union underground mines are closing down none left in ky for example
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